Calm before the storm.

SuperTool

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I just get that feeling. Mostly about Florida and Ohio. I hope there is no violence, but people are really agitated, and distrustful of each other. Let's all be civil and respectful of each other out there tomorrow. I voted absentee, so I have done my part, so there is nothing to sit and wait.
 

Infohawk

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Query: at what point do you think it's legit to take up arms in support of your ideals?
 

lordtyranus

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I fully agree with you. It'll be a nasty place tomorrow. It seems to me like Gore has set a precedent on how elections can be fought for.
 

Forsythe

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I'm gonna get ehlla drunk, and watch the election with people at my gf's uni. If bush wins, i'm gonna get even more drunk, Kerry? Hell, why make up to plans when one is enough?
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling. Mostly about Florida and Ohio. I hope there is no violence, but people are really agitated, and distrustful of each other. Let's all be civil and respectful of each other out there tomorrow. I voted absentee, so I have done my part, so there is nothing to sit and wait.
I am afraid you will be right; even more afraid the resulting overreaction will haunt America for years.
 

Fingolfin269

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We have ourselves to blame for what is destined to happen tomorrow night. Our society has been growing into this role of the spoiled brat for quite some time.
 

Mookow

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Yup. Unless one side really walks away with the election (and by that I mean 55+% of the popular vote, and a big win in the electoral college), the shite is going to hit the fan.

Sad, but likely, IMO.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Query: at what point do you think it's legit to take up arms in support of your ideals?

When you have been unfairly and repeatedly denied any other way to express support of your ideals. The threshold is very high. We have a constitutional non-violent way of influencing the direction of our country, and that is something we should all be thankful for. It's not perfect, but as imperfect as it is, it's infinitely more perfect than the alternatives.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Mookow
Yup. Unless one side really walks away with the election (and by that I mean 55+% of the popular vote, and a big win in the electoral college), the shite is going to hit the fan.

Sad, but likely, IMO.

Good. Maybe then a certain political party will stop opposing voter ID requirements.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Query: at what point do you think it's legit to take up arms in support of your ideals?

When you have been unfairly and repeatedly denied any other way to express support of your ideals.


Sounds reasonable. I'm guessing a lot of people are feeling this way and we could see some violence.

 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Query: at what point do you think it's legit to take up arms in support of your ideals?

When you have been unfairly and repeatedly denied any other way to express support of your ideals.


Sounds reasonable. I'm guessing a lot of people are feeling this way and we could see some violence.

Where are the gun control types going to get their firearms? I'm certainly not sharing.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Where are the gun control types going to get their firearms? I'm certainly not sharing.

What's your point?

Well, it is a fair question. If you are broaching the topic "at what point do you think it's legit to take up arms in support of your ideals?", while having been an advocate (IIRC) of gun control, how exactly do you think people are going to effectively resist?
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Where are the gun control types going to get their firearms? I'm certainly not sharing.

What's your point?

Well, it is a fair question. If you are broaching the topic "at what point do you think it's legit to take up arms in support of your ideals?", while having been an advocate (IIRC) of gun control, how exactly do you think people are going to effectively resist?

I never said anything about resisting or doing it "effectively" I was talking about violence... And even if I personally were an advocate of gun control how does that prevent other people from having guns?
 

MidasKnight

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Query: at what point do you think it's legit to take up arms in support of your ideals?


I'm sure if some people decided to go that route they will feel it's legit. But they must accept their death or imprisonment if they loose.
 

MidasKnight

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Originally posted by: Forsythe
I'm gonna get ehlla drunk, and watch the election with people at my gf's uni. If bush wins, i'm gonna get even more drunk, Kerry? Hell, why make up to plans when one is enough?




LOL ! Good one :D:beer:
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Mookow
Well, it is a fair question. If you are broaching the topic "at what point do you think it's legit to take up arms in support of your ideals?", while having been an advocate (IIRC) of gun control, how exactly do you think people are going to effectively resist?
I never said anything about resisting or doing it "effectively" I was talking about violence... And even if I personally were an advocate of gun control how does that prevent other people from having guns?

Well, if you believe that, at some point, it is "legit to take up arms in support of your ideals", then maybe, just maybe, you might wish to do so effectively. Throwing gravel at a cop in riot gear isnt going to do anything besides give them a perfectly legal reason to arrest you. I've never seen a point to planning to act ineffectively.
 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
We have ourselves to blame for what is destined to happen tomorrow night. Our society has been growing into this role of the spoiled brat for quite some time.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

:beer: