Calling dibetics or doctors. Newbie diabetic has a question

[funboy6942]

Is there anyway you can get elevated blood sugar readings and not be diabetic? Something that is messing up the tester?

I ask because I have had no symtoms or signs prior to being told I was diabetic. before I was being treated by sugar count was 150-200 now that I am taking 4mg of Avandia it is still the same. There was one day that I spiked 320 but I was in a bad mood and had alot on my mind. Even though I try my best to cut back on breads, have quit drinking any pop with sugar (which I used to drink alot of. Atleast 4 cans a day if not more), and stoped eating candy (except yesterday) all together I still read between 150-180 most of the time when I check I am 160-165. So why is it that before on the drug I was the same as I am now, but, now I have cut back my sugar intake by atleast 3/4.

ALSO I went with out taking my pills for 2 days to see what would happen. I tested myself when I woke up, and before and after I ate breakfast lunch, and dinner and the last of the sencond day 2 hours after dinner I had a reading of 220. All the others before and after was always in the 160-170 range without being on the pill.

So I ask am I really diabetic??? It is obvious I have not gained any advantage being either on the pill or off it. Also would me being under alot of stress have anything to do with this? Or anyone have any ideas?

Sorry I had Lipitor cofused as my diabetes meds.

 

[ggnl]

I question the sanity of people that ask for medical advice here. Go ask a real doctor, not someone that plays one on a forum.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Most Type-II patients are asymptomatic for years, and pending your count of 150-200 being your FPG, I'd say you do have it.

**Talk to your doctor about your thoughts, he knows your history and can answer this question better than all people here.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: ggnl
I question the sanity of people that ask for medical advice here. Go ask a real doctor, not someone that plays one on a forum.

Im sorry guys but I am on welfair and I have asked my doctor about this and because I am on welfair he dosnt give a crap of me as a person but how fast he can get me out because he doesnt make that much money. Now go ahead and say that isnt true but it is. I have had doctors that when I had insurance I could talk to all day and ask questions. Since being on welfair and going through 3 different doctors each one has looked at me wierd and if I ask questions I am not beliving what they had told me. And if I have more then 2 problems I need to make another apointment even if they are related.

Changing doctors is out of the question because it takes over a month and I am on other pills that I cannot be without right now if I switched. So sorry if I have to ask here but I am sure there is other diabetic people here that would give me a straighter answer then what my doctor will.

 

[NightCrawler]

There is a difference between fasting blood glucose and after a meal. Fasting blood glucose should be 100-120 and after meal 200 is normal.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Fine, when he tested you was it 8 hours after you ate, or was it random. The numbers after the test were? And, as far as I know, Atorvastatin (Lipitor) is used to treat high cholesterol and triglyceride levels, and would have no effect on your glucose levels.

EDIT: In fact, a side effects of atorvastatin is elevated glucose levels.

 

[Pepsi90919]

W-E-L-F-A-R-E

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: NightCrawler
There is a difference between fasting blood glucose and after a meal. Fasting blood glucose should be 100-120 and after meal 200 is normal.

FPG should be below 100 mg/dl. Between 100-125 mg/dl is considered to be Pre-diabetes or IPG.

 

[theshazman]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Fine, when he tested you was it 8 hours after you ate, or was it random. The numbers after the test were? And, as far as I know, Atorvastatin (Lipitor) is used to treat high cholesterol and triglyceride levels, and would have no effect on your glucose levels.

EDIT: In fact, a side effects of atorvastatin is elevated glucose levels.

As stated above, Lipitor is for cholesterol, not for diabetes. You need something like gluocotrol, you readings put you on borderline type 2. Control your sugar intake and exercise 3-4 times a week and you may be able to control it without any medication.

 

[BAMAVOO]

Lipitor is not for Diebetes, it is for cholesterol.


<<Diabetic as well, type II.

The best thing you can do is exercise and eat better. You can control it with diet and exercise! I was on a good diet and going to the gym three days a week and mine sugar levels were getting better by the day. I have since become lazy and they are climbing to the roof again.

 

[Ausm]

Diabetes runs rampant in my family (But I think it skipped my generation) . My father is a type 2 diabetic and two years ago he damn near had to switch over to insulin until I told him to try the Atkins diet.

Yes,Carbs are a diabetics worst enemy coverts over to sugar. My Dad cut his carb intake to 50g/day and he blood sugar came back under control. In fact,the doctor could not believe the change and now is suggesting a "form" of the Atkins diet to all his patients.

I would take heed to the high sugar reading because it could lead to internal organ failure and blindness.

My Father just went through 50,000 of surgery on his eyes for diabetes complications. But this was his own fault because he was to cheap to see the optometrist on a regular basis.

Also Lipitor is not for diabetes,it is for high cholesterol

if You want PM feel welcome.

Ausm

 

[dabuddha]

320 is really really high.
Also lipitor is for cholesterol, not diabetes. I know since I take it Try not eating anything after dinner and then check it first thing in the morning. What numbers do you get?
Need more information like age, body weight, etc.
Best advice really is to go to a doctor. That way you can also see what your A1C is.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

I think he's referring to a side-effect of Lipitor being elevated glucose levels? Maybe I read it wrong, but anyway, that is a side effect.

 

[funboy6942]

I am sorry I had Lipitor misstaken as my Diabetes meds. I am on Avandia 4 mg. I am also on:
20mg Lipitor
20/25 of Lisinopril
600mg Ibprofen
50mg metroprolo
and 150mg of ranitidine

My qestion still says that my sugar levels are the same as when they found out and are the same even on Avandia and having cut out all most al my sugar intake. Last night I went overboard and had all kinds of candy at around 9pm and didnt eat anything else fo rthe rest of the night. This morning when I took my reading i was expecting to see it high as hell but it was exactly 160.

As for the excersise I am per disabled and cannot get around very well at all.

So why is it no matter what I do or eat my sugar levels are the same?

 

[richardycc]

I would say that your pancrea is still so what funtional, but definitely not working like a normal one. diet and execise, and watch what you eat, you might be able to get off the diabetic meds for a few years. "normal" person's bg should be around 80-120, your is a bit high.

 

[NightCrawler]

Originally posted by: Ausm
Diabetes runs rampant in my family (But I think it skipped my generation) . My father is a type 2 diabetic and two years ago he damn near had to switch over to insulin until I told him to try the Atkins diet.

Yes,Carbs are a diabetics worst enemy coverts over to sugar. My Dad cut his carb intake to 50g/day and he blood sugar came back under control. In fact,the doctor could not believe the change and now is suggesting a "form" of the Atkins diet to all his patients.

I would take heed to the high sugar reading because it could lead to internal organ failure and blindness.

My Father just went through 50,000 of surgery on his eyes for diabetes complications. But this was his own fault because he was to cheap to see the optometrist on a regular basis.

Also Lipitor is not for diabetes,it is for high cholesterol

if You want PM feel welcome.

Ausm

This might be true but a high protein diet is also very stressful on organs as well. The bodies primary fuel is carbohydrates. All carbs are not equal, high fiber slow burning carbs are benefitial.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: richardycc
I would say that your pancrea is still so what funtional, but definitely not working like a normal one. diet and execise, and watch what you eat, you might be able to get off the diabetic meds for a few years. "normal" person's bg should be around 80-120, your is a bit high.

Um...yea he has Type II Diabetes. Type-II patients retain the ability to secrete insulin, though at varying levels. It's characterized by peripheral insulin resistance. Also, normal glucose levels vary depending on when tested. Which are you refering to, doctor.

 

[funboy6942]

At the time I was found to have diabetes I was at 170 every time they took it. Again now I am on Avandia and I cut out all my pops I drink and aside of yesterday I havent touched candy. Still my blood sugar remains the same. Even after eating all that candy yesterday my blood sugar is the same and not elevated.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: moochadime
At the time I was found to have diabetes I was at 170 every time they took it. Again now I am on Avandia and I cut out all my pops I drink and aside of yesterday I havent touched candy. Still my blood sugar remains the same. Even after eating all that candy yesterday my blood sugar is the same and not elevated.

There are too many factors, especially in a case like this. If you don't trust your doctor's diagnosis, get a second opinion. That's the only way you'll know for sure.

 

[richardycc]

you do know that 170 is still high and not normal, right? denial won't cure diabete. your doc might need to increase or change your meds, since it looks like it's not doing anything for you. good luck!

sarosanctfiend, I am not a doc, but I play one on ATOT. the ref range for fasting bg is 65-99mg/dL from this lab that my doc uses.

 

[funboy6942]

Yes I understand that to be true but everyone has missed my question. Can I have high reading and not be diabetic??

I am at the same levels as I was when I was sucking down 4+ cans of pop and eating pasta left and right.
Now I am on sugar free pop, avandia, and hardly touch bread or pasta and my leves havent decreased. I didnt take my pill for two days and my levels didnt increase. Wouldnt or shouldnt I see some kind of higher readings?

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Diabetes is defined as a metabolic disease in which utilization of carbohydrate is impaired and that of lipid and protein enhanced, and in which FPG is above 126mg/dl or RPG above 200mg/dl.

I would say you have diabetes, but no one on the internet is able to say for sure.

EDIT: The definition is for diabetes mellitus. And levels must be tested two times on different days with similar results.