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FallenHero
Diamond Member
It's still gonna kill you.
JasonSix78
Platinum Member
Get a 1911 in .45 ACP and buy a .22 LR conversion kit. .22 for plinking and .45 for the bad guys.
-Jason
-Jason
JRock
Platinum Member
franksta
Golden Member
You'll want to try shooting various models and calibers to see what you like. After I shot a 1911 in .45 I knew that's what I had to have.
Cocked and locked
Cocked and locked
poopaskoopa
Diamond Member
Between the two, Glock, because shooting a .50 gets old and exhausting pretty fast, not to mention expensive. I'd opt for the full-size one(G17 for 9mm, G22 for .40). But if I had other choices, I would probably opt for a Springfield XD with a 5" barrel. Or a Sig, or a HK, or a CZ, or.... I'm not a fan of Glock's trigger and the grip angle, but this stuff is usually YMMV between each shooter.
AlienCraft
Lifer
Agreed.
DE's look great in movies and videos, but are frickin practically useless for Home defence.
If you're serious about HD , then a shotgun is your weapon of choice. imo.
PrinceofWands
Lifer
100% agreed. The Glock 22 is the best full size pistol I've ever owned, hands down.
PricklyPete
Lifer
I have shot a lot of different handguns and if I were told that I was going to be deserted on an island and had to pick one handgun...it would most certainly be my Glock.
I love my stainless Sig P220, but it is not nearly as practical. My only other suggestion would be the H&K USP 45 cal. I really like that gun. My friend owns one and it will likely be my next purchase.
Anyway, as bradruth stated, the Glock 22 is an ideal all around sidearm.
I love my stainless Sig P220, but it is not nearly as practical. My only other suggestion would be the H&K USP 45 cal. I really like that gun. My friend owns one and it will likely be my next purchase.
Anyway, as bradruth stated, the Glock 22 is an ideal all around sidearm.
Metron
Golden Member
"Deagles" are only popular because of Counter Strike, and they have no real world practicality.
Go get a Kimber .45 TLE II which is basically the same gun carried by LAPD SWAT. Very nice custom .45 and very reliable.
Most 9mm rounds won't penetrate a car door... if you have to put your life on the line, carry a weapon with some power, like the .45.
*edit*
If you're looking primarily for home defense, get a Ruger or S&W .44 magnum revolver. Load it up with Cheney-style bird shot rounds, and you have a legal short-barreled 6 shot shotgun.
Go get a Kimber .45 TLE II which is basically the same gun carried by LAPD SWAT. Very nice custom .45 and very reliable.
Most 9mm rounds won't penetrate a car door... if you have to put your life on the line, carry a weapon with some power, like the .45.
*edit*
If you're looking primarily for home defense, get a Ruger or S&W .44 magnum revolver. Load it up with Cheney-style bird shot rounds, and you have a legal short-barreled 6 shot shotgun.
Check out the Springfield XD http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-xdpstl-sub-compact.shtml
It's a great gun for the range and for defense
It's a great gun for the range and for defense
phantom309
Platinum Member
*sigh*
If this is your first handgun and you must have tupperware, I think you should get a Glock 17 or 19 - 9mm. The reason is that you can get high quality 9mm ammo for very cheap - usually half the cost of lousy .45 and 50% less than so-so .40. Yes, it's a small caliber - and that may be an issue for people who have nothing else to base their masculinity on - but I can promise you nobody will laugh when you point your Glock 17 at them.
Here's why ammo cost is so important: you're going to have to spend a LOT of time at the range before you can reliably hit anything with a pistol. It's easy to burn through 150-200 rounds in a single range trip. If 9mm is 10 cents a round and .45 is double that, you can see how expensive this can get. I know you say money is no object but if you're dropping $40+ every time you go shooting, you're not gonna want to do it very often, and you won't develop the skills you need to defend yourself effectively and safely. And I assure you that a 9mm round at center mass will take your attacker down a whole lot quicker than seven .45 rounds in the wall two feet to your attacker's left.
Of course if you're prepared to spend the extra money, sure, get the higher caliber. There are no drawbacks to that other than cost. But it's much more important to learn to shoot safely and well.
If this is your first handgun and you must have tupperware, I think you should get a Glock 17 or 19 - 9mm. The reason is that you can get high quality 9mm ammo for very cheap - usually half the cost of lousy .45 and 50% less than so-so .40. Yes, it's a small caliber - and that may be an issue for people who have nothing else to base their masculinity on - but I can promise you nobody will laugh when you point your Glock 17 at them.
Here's why ammo cost is so important: you're going to have to spend a LOT of time at the range before you can reliably hit anything with a pistol. It's easy to burn through 150-200 rounds in a single range trip. If 9mm is 10 cents a round and .45 is double that, you can see how expensive this can get. I know you say money is no object but if you're dropping $40+ every time you go shooting, you're not gonna want to do it very often, and you won't develop the skills you need to defend yourself effectively and safely. And I assure you that a 9mm round at center mass will take your attacker down a whole lot quicker than seven .45 rounds in the wall two feet to your attacker's left.
Of course if you're prepared to spend the extra money, sure, get the higher caliber. There are no drawbacks to that other than cost. But it's much more important to learn to shoot safely and well.
squirrel dog
Diamond Member
I've wanted a Glock 20-c in 10 mm . The -c means its compensated or the barrel/slide has slits cut in the top to allow gas to vent out keeping recoil to a min and the gun on target.That model in .45 would be neat also.
pontifex
Lifer
wtf would you want to penetrate a car door? its for home defense, not drive-bys.
i don't know why everyone says you need a large caliber gun for. i've said several times that most criminals will run away just at the sight of a gun. only in extremely rare cases will you run into someone who will keep coming at you after you've shot them a few times.
for target shooting and hd a 9mm would probably be the best compromise, as 9mm ammo is less expensive than .45 and still has enough power. if its good enough for the military, its good enough for anyone else.
spacejamz
Lifer
just wanted to throw one other thing out (even though it might be a moot point since you said money is no object)...
if you do plan on going to the range alot, you might want to consider the cost of ammo (assuming you don't plan to make your own)...
9mm is pretty darn cheap (a box of 50 rounds is $3.86 for CCI Blazer at Academy) while the .40 is around $7-8...
for home defense, just use some JHP (hollow points) rounds...If you hit your target w/ one of those, I don't he will be walking too far afterwards...i am assuming that most people state that a 9mm is underpowered is when FMJ rounds are used, so please correct me if I am wrong on that....🙂
just something to think about...
JasonSix78
Platinum Member
Yes, you should. I suggested the conversion kit because plinking with .45 rounds could become expensive. You could take it out and practice for a while with the .45 and then switch over to the .22 LR and let loose.
-Jason
MorrisDancer
Member
East Germans made a better one.
Barreta's are just so well balenced.
PrinceofWands
Lifer
Fun to shoot at the range, but a TERRIBLE idea for a defensive weapon. The porting causes a surround flash which can screw up your vision in dark shooting, which is what most home defensive shoots would be.
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