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BladeVenom

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Originally posted by: brblx
accepting whatever is rammed down your throat is being childish. not the other way around.

Exactly. Accepting whatever you're spoon fed is what babies do. Standing up for yourselves is what men do.
 

soybeast

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Originally posted by: Aiune
You guys are ridiculous.

This game will be a fantastic experience, 10/10 in both singleplayer and spec ops, and you're getting your panties in a bunch because you can't handle differences to a system that's already starting to converge that way.

Stop acting entitled to have games THE WAY YOU WANT. It's not your decision, and it's so damn funny that this arrogance and "pride" is making you deny playing a fantastic game.

90% of you will still buy the game, you just want to be "Internet tough" and "My way or the highway", well guess what. Get. Over. It. This is the way life works in and outside of video games, it's like that damn episode of southpark featuring Wall Mart.

So your 60 cancelled pre-orders for your clan is a joke. You guys are plain stupid. Finding faults instead of looking at the benefits. It's just childish and stupid.

Robert Bowling is drinking your tears.

Stop being immature. This method is intended to unify crowds and even though it may not be your ideal, you will still have a GREAT time if you just stop being so damn bitter.

Stop QQing.


Obvious troll is obvious. Or idiot is obviously an idiot.

I think this is a great example for these forums to have some kind of up/down voting tool ala Digg. Then most people wouldn't even have to read this garbage and we could just ignore it.
 

Aiune

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Being emo because a method of server selection is different and thus making a scene and magically making you desire to play the rest of the game vanish is childish.

You are in no way shape or form "being a man" by pounding your chest full of pride because you're sad a system you're used to isn't being utilized.

It's not about conforming, it's about finding good in things, especially when honest to goodness, you haven't even TRIED this method you loathe yet.

EDIT: And if we're going to use the Baby comparison, babies whine and cry and complain when they don't get their way. Men take what they have and make the most of it.
 

Arglebargle

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Originally posted by: brblx
accepting whatever is rammed down your throat is being childish. not the other way around.

Exactly. Accepting whatever you're spoon fed is what babies do. Standing up for yourselves is what men do.

Recognizing the difference, that's the interesting part.....
 

VashHT

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Originally posted by: Aiune
Being emo because a method of server selection is different and thus making a scene and magically making you desire to play the rest of the game vanish is childish.

You are in no way shape or form "being a man" by pounding your chest full of pride because you're sad a system you're used to isn't being utilized.

It's not about conforming, it's about finding good in things, especially when honest to goodness, you haven't even TRIED this method you loathe yet.

EDIT: And if we're going to use the Baby comparison, babies whine and cry and complain when they don't get their way. Men take what they have and make the most of it.

People on here are finding the good in it, they'll save 60$ of their hard earned money now. Just because we aren't buying it doesn't mean we aren't allowed to discuss it. Here's a question for you, how old are you and how many games with dedicated server support have you played? Like I said before, a lot of people have tired console shooters so they know what kind of system is coming, and that is why people are pissed off.
 

duragezic

Lifer
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While I don't agree with all of Aiune, he brings up some good points.

People are going a bit too apeshit over something they haven't used, especially last week when we had hardly any information about it.

I recognize their are some downsides but I think it could end up working okay. The PC gaming crowd tends to whine so much over DRM, OMG ports, and whatnot with all this boycotting garbage. I don't mean we should bend over for whatever devs want to do, but I do think we need to be more open. Or I'd have to think the devs feeling like they can't please the PC crowd so why spend the time/$$ on the PC version or working on new multiplayer networks if it's just going to get a bad reputation over something small.
 

videogames101

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Aug 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Aiune
Being emo because a method of server selection is different and thus making a scene and magically making you desire to play the rest of the game vanish is childish.

You are in no way shape or form "being a man" by pounding your chest full of pride because you're sad a system you're used to isn't being utilized.

It's not about conforming, it's about finding good in things, especially when honest to goodness, you haven't even TRIED this method you loathe yet.

EDIT: And if we're going to use the Baby comparison, babies whine and cry and complain when they don't get their way. Men take what they have and make the most of it.

Why should I make excuses for the devs of the products I buy? That is DUMB. If I don't like something, I won't buy it, I owe nothing to the devs.

You don't seem to even understand the concept of a dedicated server, because if you did, you'd know that this system has been tried before.
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: duragezic
While I don't agree with all of Aiune, he brings up some good points.

People are going a bit too apeshit over something they haven't used, especially last week when we had hardly any information about it.

I recognize their are some downsides but I think it could end up working okay. The PC gaming crowd tends to whine so much over DRM, OMG ports, and whatnot with all this boycotting garbage. I don't mean we should bend over for whatever devs want to do, but I do think we need to be more open. Or I'd have to think the devs feeling like they can't please the PC crowd so why spend the time/$$ on the PC version or working on new multiplayer networks if it's just going to get a bad reputation over something small.

Lack of dedicated servers is not small.
 

BladeVenom

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aiune
Being emo because a method of server selection is different...
THERE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE ANY DEDICATED SERVERS!

It's not about conforming, it's about finding good in things, especially when honest to goodness, you haven't even TRIED this method you loathe yet.

Anyone who has ever played a multiplayer console shooter HAS ALREADY TRIED THIS METHOD!

 

Aiune

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Originally posted by: VashHT
Originally posted by: Aiune
Being emo because a method of server selection is different and thus making a scene and magically making you desire to play the rest of the game vanish is childish.

You are in no way shape or form "being a man" by pounding your chest full of pride because you're sad a system you're used to isn't being utilized.

It's not about conforming, it's about finding good in things, especially when honest to goodness, you haven't even TRIED this method you loathe yet.

EDIT: And if we're going to use the Baby comparison, babies whine and cry and complain when they don't get their way. Men take what they have and make the most of it.

People on here are finding the good in it, they'll save 60$ of their hard earned money now. Just because we aren't buying it doesn't mean we aren't allowed to discuss it. Here's a question for you, how old are you and how many games with dedicated server support have you played? Like I said before, a lot of people have tired console shooters so they know what kind of system is coming, and that is why people are pissed off.

I'm 22 and have been playing both sides of the spectrum from Battle.net from Starcraft days through every major shooter on PC since then. I'm a HUGE FPS fan, from half-life, unreal tournament, quake 3, consistently til now where i play TF2 and L4D a large amount.

I LOVE dedicated servers and what they do.

But IW.NET confirmed their system is more like battle.net than it is Halo's matchmaking. It has lobby systems, utilizes steams userinterface for chatting, and im not even arguing that it's the next coming of christ, it has its fair share of potential problems and lag issues.

But it's just dumb to get in such a rage over something you haven't tried. IW has never delivered a bad game. They want to keep fans, have a little faith that their system isnt complete garbage. No one ever said it would be as good as Dedicated servers.

That's not the point. It's that anything new and "not what fits my love, because im stubborn and prideful" that so many PC gamers seem to have, it just turns into a big ragefest of idiocity and a complete absense of objection and maybe even, gasp, possible improvement!

The point is that if you seriously are so entitled that you think a shift in playstyle that once again, you've never tried, is detering you from the promise of one of the best single and multiplayer experiences (and if you honest to god think mw2 looks worse than mw, you have no credibility), then you SHOULD be whining and crying. Because you're too big of baby, and as this theme keeps coming up, definitely NOT a man.

 

minmaster

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lol they must've been notified by walmart and amazon people have canceled their pre-orders, now they're raising the gift card to $20.
 
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I said basically the same thing earlier, but after reading all this, I have to say it again. We are paying more money for an product missing several features that are generally considered an advantage of PC gaming. It is just too bad that console gaming has taken over the market so much that a franchise developed for the PC has basically abandoned it. I support those who are protesting and boycotting the game, but I dont think it will do any good. If IW cared about PC gamers, they would not have done away with dedicated servers in the first place. I basically see IW's explainations for doing this as rationalizations and excuses. How hard can it be to click on a server on a list and click "join game"?? I really don't see any legitimate advantages to the system they are implementing. I have played games on the PC with both matchmaking and dedicated server lobbys, and I never used matchmaking.
 

videogames101

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Aug 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Aiune
Originally posted by: VashHT
Originally posted by: Aiune
Being emo because a method of server selection is different and thus making a scene and magically making you desire to play the rest of the game vanish is childish.

You are in no way shape or form "being a man" by pounding your chest full of pride because you're sad a system you're used to isn't being utilized.

It's not about conforming, it's about finding good in things, especially when honest to goodness, you haven't even TRIED this method you loathe yet.

EDIT: And if we're going to use the Baby comparison, babies whine and cry and complain when they don't get their way. Men take what they have and make the most of it.

People on here are finding the good in it, they'll save 60$ of their hard earned money now. Just because we aren't buying it doesn't mean we aren't allowed to discuss it. Here's a question for you, how old are you and how many games with dedicated server support have you played? Like I said before, a lot of people have tired console shooters so they know what kind of system is coming, and that is why people are pissed off.

I'm 22 and have been playing both sides of the spectrum from Battle.net from Starcraft days through every major shooter on PC since then. I'm a HUGE FPS fan, from half-life, unreal tournament, quake 3, consistently til now where i play TF2 and L4D a large amount.

I LOVE dedicated servers and what they do.

But IW.NET confirmed their system is more like battle.net than it is Halo's matchmaking. It has lobby systems, utilizes steams userinterface for chatting, and im not even arguing that it's the next coming of christ, it has its fair share of potential problems and lag issues.

But it's just dumb to get in such a rage over something you haven't tried. IW has never delivered a bad game. They want to keep fans, have a little faith that their system isnt complete garbage. No one ever said it would be as good as Dedicated servers.

That's not the point. It's that anything new and "not what fits my love, because im stubborn and prideful" that so many PC gamers seem to have, it just turns into a big ragefest of idiocity and a complete absense of objection and maybe even, gasp, possible improvement!

The point is that if you seriously are so entitled that you think a shift in playstyle that once again, you've never tried, is detering you from the promise of one of the best single and multiplayer experiences (and if you honest to god think mw2 looks worse than mw, you have no credibility), then you SHOULD be whining and crying. Because you're too big of baby, and as this theme keeps coming up, definitely NOT a man.

If a server is hosted on a f**king consumer line, it is going to be terrible. Stop trying to deny this , it's a fact. I don't care if IW delivered the game with the bets network optimizations ever, a consumer connection has and probably never will support the kind of online experience I want.

How in the world do you think using Halo as an example would garner support for you? The network latency in Halo is simply atrocious.
 

Jack Flash

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Originally posted by: videogames101
If a server is hosted on a f**king consumer line, it is going to be terrible. Stop trying to deny this , it's a fact. I don't care if IW delivered the game with the bets network optimizations ever, a consumer connection has and probably never will support the kind of online experience I want.

How in the world do you think using Halo as an example would garner support for you? The network latency in Halo is simply atrocious.

LOL what kind of Internet backbone upload speed to do you need to host a modern videogame? Does it also need a nuclear reactor to power it?
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: videogames101
If a server is hosted on a f**king consumer line, it is going to be terrible. Stop trying to deny this , it's a fact. I don't care if IW delivered the game with the bets network optimizations ever, a consumer connection has and probably never will support the kind of online experience I want.

How in the world do you think using Halo as an example would garner support for you? The network latency in Halo is simply atrocious.

LOL what kind of Internet backbone upload speed to do you need to host a modern videogame? Does it also need a nuclear reactor to power it?

Learnt he issues please.

Upload speed is a non-issue. Latency and TCP/IP Pause is.
 

Jack Flash

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Originally posted by: videogames101
Learnt he issues please.

Upload speed is a non-issue. Latency and TCP/IP Pause is.

So why is it impossible for a user's connection to provide a decent server for, say, 16 players?

I really am curious what the limitation is and how what hosting companies are offering is different technically to what a consumer can buy from a provider.
 

Mike Gayner

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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: videogames101
Learnt he issues please.

Upload speed is a non-issue. Latency and TCP/IP Pause is.

So why is it impossible for a user's connection to provide a decent server for, say, 16 players?

I really am curious what the limitation is and how what hosting companies are offering is different technically to what a consumer can buy from a provider.

Troll moar.
 

videogames101

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Aug 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: videogames101
Learnt he issues please.

Upload speed is a non-issue. Latency and TCP/IP Pause is.

So why is it impossible for a user's connection to provide a decent server for, say, 16 players?

I really am curious what the limitation is and how what hosting companies are offering is different technically to what a consumer can buy from a provider.

Number of nodes between server host and the main backbone.
 

duragezic

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Jules
Picked up the PC Version for $46.80 shipped + $20GC from amazon :)
How you get the $46.80 price? I see it has $59.99 free shipping with $20 GC.

Even that deal is great and I'm thinking about getting it even though I'm tempted to wait to buy it locally because I want it on release day. :D
 

Krakn3Dfx

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Sep 29, 2000
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Big ass MW2 picture on the Steam store. Wonder how long I'll have to endure that. Activision must be paying plenty 'o buckets 'o chicken for that.
 

Jules

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Originally posted by: Jules
Picked up the PC Version for $46.80 shipped + $20GC from amazon :)

Coupon? How you get it lower?


Originally posted by: duragezic
Originally posted by: Jules
Picked up the PC Version for $46.80 shipped + $20GC from amazon :)
How you get the $46.80 price? I see it has $59.99 free shipping with $20 GC.

Even that deal is great and I'm thinking about getting it even though I'm tempted to wait to buy it locally because I want it on release day. :D

I emailed a CS to get my ECA 10% even though it wasn't working and i guess the CS gave me too much money back.