Call of Duty 4 is AWFUL

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
I dug it back out a week or two ago, as it's the first time I've had my PS3 online in more than a year. I was frustrated pretty quickly, though I assume it's b/c I never play FPS: if you run into me online, I'm the guy you see jumping face-first into a corner, trying to clear the map boundary like an idiot, shooting at your knees, etc.

glad to see that it's not so simply as "I suck."

Though, I enjoyed the single player, albeit quite short. Seemed innovative to me...of course, the last war-inspired FPS I played was some Medal of Honor game on PS1

It has the best single player FPS campaign I've played in awhile. Perhaps 2nd to the original Call of Duty.

 

[RallyMaster]

I always felt like CoD4 was CoD2 reskinned with better textures, some new models and some new weapons. The mechanics felt the same, the battles were similar and multiplayer sucked in both. If you've played CoD2 MP on PC, you'll notice that it's almost exactly the same. There's also very little squad based combat in both games. I prefer Battlefield 2 over this because it takes a longer time to actually get good. Just because you've been an FPS geek for half a decade doesn't mean you can dive right in and start killing people left and right. As great as the graphics are in CoD4, it is a console game where people aim with thumbsticks that got ported to PC so we aren't left salivating. I don't believe it's the FPS ever by a long shot.

 

[DenniSTi]

It's probably the best game for the Xbox360 or at least in the top 3. I haven't even played the full single player campaign because I only like competitive online multiplayer games.

I've never played the PC version, but it's one of the few games that I can still pick up and have a blast. Advantages over the PC would be: even playing field (everyone has the same system, though I'm sure there's probably a way to use a keyboard and mouse if you tried hard enough), no cheating (to my knowledge), huge community (there's always people playing and lots of competitive ladders and such), Xbox Live makes it easy to communicate with all your friends. I'll probably get it for PC pretty soon once I figure what's wrong with my new pc build.


edit: Oh and it's way better than Halo3 by far.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: DenniSTi
huge community (there's always people playing and lots of competitive ladders and such), Xbox Live makes it easy to communicate with all your friends.

There are plenty of leagues out there doing competitive COD4 ladders on the PC, like OGL. No shortage of players / servers either. Steam also makes it easy to communicate with all of your friends playing the game (and others) on the PC.

As far as level playing fields go, the main differences would be caused by connection speed / latency (which impacts consoles as well). The game runs well on a $100 video card and I doubt eye candy gives one any significant advantages if one does have to turn down the eye candy. Mice only go so far, I have a Logitech G5 and I still suck at CoD4. Mice that have more buttons (which is the most handy thing) are affordable, likely costing less than a 360 controller. Fancier high DPI mice like the Logitech G5 gaming mouse cost about the same as a PlayStation 3 Dual Shock 3. DPI sniper mice are not that useful because it takes time to switch between the dpi modes and in fast paced FPS games, you will likely die during that time or miss your target (at least that is what happens to me, so I do not even use the high DPI mode features).

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: destrekor
BF2? Boring.
Don't get me wrong. The game had potential. Until it was played online.

yeah, CoD4 is 1000x better than the BF series will EVER be.

BF2 has some pretty awesome multiplayer. Come on - you can battle by land, air, or water and you have 64 players on huge maps. The balance might be a bit off, though.

and thats partly what makes it suck.

 

[BassBomb]

COD4 mp sucks
COD4 sp was ok

 

[gorcorps]

OP you weren't even complaining about the game, you just bitched about the players in it. Grenade spamming? Players fault... find a server that bans them or something. Hacking? Players fault. Too many snipers? Players fault.

If you're going to call a game shitty then at least have something about the GAME to back up your argument, not about the people who play it.

 

[TallBill]

What the fuck are you smoking?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
BF2 has some pretty awesome multiplayer. Come on - you can battle by land, air, or water and you have 64 players on huge maps. The balance might be a bit off, though.

and thats partly what makes it suck.

The balance issue with BF2 could be fixed by allowing players to spawn with stingers that operated like the stingers in Desert Combat. Air power was way overpowered. The only other glaring issue that I recalled after the final patch was issued would be the red tag bug, they never seemed to fix that glitch where team mates were labeled as enemies. IIRC, that bug was even in '42.

 

[DomS]

hey guys! I tried playing on smaller servers and you're right, it is a bit more realistic. i still don't like the hit detection / aiming in this. Someone pointed out that when you aim down the site your accuracy is pretty much 100%. I gave it a shot and you're right...I was mowing people down with the mp5 from 2 or 3 blocks away.

I'm also having a problem with punkbuster now as well....I can't get into some servers that use it, or I get in and then get bounced within 5 seconds, even if i've never been on the server before.

I'm going to try the single player next time I play.

 

[gorobei]

cod4 in a word: RANDOM
no teamwork, no coordination, no real sense of a frontline and a direction you should be moving, grenade spam from hell, tons of camping, spawnkilling, and to add that final straw: ability to shoot thru walls so those xray hackers can get you berfore you even get close to turning the corner. dont get me started on the air strikes and heli.

its not BF2 the next gen, it's CS the dx9 wannabe. the game is about personal glory not teamwork.
the only upside is it may force the CS dualwieldDeagleAWPwnHeadshoteveryshot kiddies to actually buy new computers and stop playing a free game on 4:3crt/pentium2/256mbDDR/ati integrated graphics systems. (you're holding back the game developing world with your EOL hardware.)

try hardcore, no hud and FF on. It cuts down on the spam and indiscrimate fire. go uav jammer perk to avoid some of the camper kills.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: gorobei
cod4 in a word: RANDOM
no teamwork, no coordination, no real sense of a frontline and a direction you should be moving, grenade spam from hell, tons of camping, spawnkilling, and to add that final straw: ability to shoot thru walls so those xray hackers can get you berfore you even get close to turning the corner. dont get me started on the air strikes and heli.

its not BF2 the next gen, it's CS the dx9 wannabe. the game is about personal glory not teamwork.
the only upside is it may force the CS dualwieldDeagleAWPwnHeadshoteveryshot kiddies to actually buy new computers and stop playing a free game on 4:3crt/pentium2/256mbDDR/ati integrated graphics systems. (you're holding back the game developing world with your EOL hardware.)

try hardcore, no hud and FF on. It cuts down on the spam and indiscrimate fire. go uav jammer perk to avoid some of the camper kills.

If you got a team together on a server and coordinate with each other you can dominate. Just because you decide not to doesn't mean it's not possible. Again, bitching about the PLAYERS in the game doesn't mean the game itself sucks.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

I agree with most of the pros and cons people mentioned, SP was a good experience and its short enough to serve as a way to acclimitize to the game then head to MP.

MP has alot of nuisances to it and depending if u can deal with it or not will determine if it stays on your harddrive. The gameplay gets very frustrating as more people populate a server. Like in the ambush map, with all the little alleys were people spawn. I can spawn from an alley then fun straight into the distance, only to be shot down from behind by someone who spawned from the same spot seconds later. Good idea is to avoid the shipment map at all costs, basically designed for spawn killing lovers.

The martydom feature has got to be the most annoying feature in the game although im a bit of a hypocrite for using profiles with it, but so many people have it and its like the playing floor is just one giant mine trap while people get nondeserving kills.

The thing that annoyes me the most of this game are those successive kills that grant you airstrikes and the helicopter i havent come across a sever that turn these off.

 

[Sniper82]

I play with 14-18 ppl team matches. Anymore than that and the game starts getting annoying.

 

[Regs]

When you're playing on a crap team against a stack team, your spawn will get pushed into a small corner. That's when you get nadded to death. The more map you control the more you win. Campers that don't push up or control more of the map are usually the ones that are going to get you killed.

 

[DomS]

tried single player...MUCH better so far.

 

[Mide]

I had a great time playing the single player

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Xylitol
COD4 is MUCH, MUCH better on the 360 than on the PC
end of story

The PC version offers (the following over the 360 version) the ability to lean around corners, better graphics, loads of free custom / player made maps (and mods), the official map pack is free, does not use autoaim (I assume the 360 uses autoaim), faster load times (assumed on a fair system), wider variety of input options, likely allows more people per server than the 360 version. On paper (at least), it seems that the PC version is superior.

eh i've played it before on PC
it's practically counterstrike with how easy it is to headshot and do crazy stuff
it's more of its own game on the 360

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
The balance issue with BF2 could be fixed by allowing players to spawn with stingers that operated like the stingers in Desert Combat. Air power was way overpowered. The only other glaring issue that I recalled after the final patch was issued would be the red tag bug, they never seemed to fix that glitch where team mates were labeled as enemies. IIRC, that bug was even in '42.

Nothing has come close to BF2 in several respects. Also, I believe they fixed the red bug awhile back, surprisingly enough, it took a very long time.

Air power would never have been overpowered in BF2 if it weren't for cheating. The only other way for a jet pilot to get a lot of kills is with a really dedicated commander giving him constant feedback on where to bomb / shoot. The dangerous jet pilots were the swooping machine gunners with 0 fog and name tag hacks though. Also, one thing I always disagreed with was how slow jets could get to without having issues, they can cruise along at pretty lame speeds, it makes sense for landing but gets abused easily. However a jet is crap if your team also has a good jet pilot. And the helicopter was never overpowered. People just suck and refuse to play as a team.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
it's awesome on the xbox360 where it takes more skill to snipe, so you won't get instant headshotted necessarily
also, i believe that the max number of players on team deathmatch is 7v7?

if you play something like groundwars where it's like 10v10, there are a lot of grenades flying around (even on xbox live)

COD4 is MUCH, MUCH better on the 360 than on the PC
end of story

PC = we have the ability to ban/kick users who we think are cheating or not playing productivly, or afk for that matter
PC = we can use custom maps or custom game mods

Xbox 360 = xbox live
Xbox 360 = better voice communication(probaly) due to the fact pc people generally dont use public chat.

you guys have auto-aim...

im not saying much,because im getting a 360 soon.due to lack of pc gameplaying.

 

[Lamont Burns]

COD4 is the best FPS ever for 12 year olds

 

[The Boston Dangler]

i love the game. my tips to make it enjoyable:

hardcore mode
20 - 24 players maximum
manually update punkbuster before playing
find servers than ban martyrdom and/or noobtoobs

 

[Genx87]

Hahaha the OP hit nearly all of my complaints. Reason why I stopped playing months ago. If this is where FPS are heading forget it.

The grenade issue is especially aggravating. There isnt any skill in lobbing grenades and hoping to hit people.
Another issue that bugs me is the spawn. I understand they are trying to move us around the map by adding in dynamic spawn. But how many times have people been fighting the enemy down a street only to have the guy you just killed spawn behind you for an easy kill? God that is annoying as hell.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

Just aim down the sights and you can mow people down. You can pretty much run and gun. mp5/ak-74u? are my favs. They're both pretty good for wall banging. Grenades are annoying but everyone else has to deal with them too. knifing is quick and painless.

stick to hardcore servers or try out a seek and destroy server.

 

[Sureshot324]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: destrekor
BF2? Boring.
Don't get me wrong. The game had potential. Until it was played online.

yeah, CoD4 is 1000x better than the BF series will EVER be.

BF2 has some pretty awesome multiplayer. Come on - you can battle by land, air, or water and you have 64 players on huge maps. The balance might be a bit off, though.

That's the whole problem with BF2. It had lots of things that sound cool, but wasn't actually a very good game once the novelty wears off. The best and most popular make is strike at karkland, which doesn't have any vehicles and is a small, linear map.