California School Honors Black History Month with Fried Chicken and Water Melon Lunch

unokitty

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Controversy Surrounds Lunch Menu

If I understand it correctly, the menu included fried chicken, water melon, collard greens, and corn bread. According to the article "students and parents were outraged and offended."

"I'd like to apologize for the announcement and any hurt this caused students, parents or community members," Principal Nancy Libby said in the letter. "Please know that at no time at Carondelet do we wish to perpetrate racial stereotypes."

University of San Francisco professor James Taylor said he can see why some students and teachers would be offended, even though the lunch may have been well intentioned.

"Chicken, water melon, collard greens, these stereotypes of black Southern culture that come from the same place where the N-word comes from," he said.

Ruth Wilson, chair of the African-American Studies Dept. at San Jose State University, said the food isn't offensive perse - in fact fried chicken is an American mainstay, in large part to Kentucky Fried Chicken's Colonel Sanders.
If I LOLed when I read about this, would that make me a bad man?

Uno
 
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OCGuy

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How could a stereotype about such delicious food be considered the same as n****?

If loving fried chicken means you are black, then call me Wesley Snipes.
 

Munky

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Lol.

Translation: "Let's celebrate black history month by pointing out a general behavioral trend of blacks, but we will apologize profusely for noticing such a stereotype with our lying eyes, and recant our position based on the whims and mental gymnastics of people who protest."
 

Texashiker

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I want some fried chicken and water melon.


Why is this article even news? I think unokitty just wants some attention.
 

Herr Kutz

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I am absolutely outraged and offended that this meal does not include grape drank!
 

I Saw OJ

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Only thing I find suspect is the quality of their watermelon in February.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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For MLK day, I served fried catfish, collard greens, black eyed peas, cornbread and, coleslaw. Everybody liked it. California has a lot of ethnic foods available. I don't see what their problem is.
 

CrackRabbit

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This thread has me craving fried chicken and waffles.
Roscoe's is a bit of a drive from here though.
 

Geosurface

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I say to black people who have any of that southern history/culture in their family: don't let people mocking it ruin it for you.

If there's some Norwegian family who loves their ludafisk or whatever the hell, they shouldn't let the fact that people mock that food (and they do) ruin it for them. If you like it, then have it and embrace it!

I'm pretty much 100% Irish and come from a very Irish Catholic family, and I fucking LOVE POTATOES and eat them way more than a normal person. I don't give a shit.

The stereotype of fried chicken, collard greens, corn bread, etc exists for a reason. Those WERE/ARE popular dishes among southern blacks and remained popular among a lot of black families who moved north. There is nothing inherently offensive about these foods, they are all good foods that plenty of white people eat too.

People are too god damned sensitive. It reminds me of the black girl filling out a census report or whatever, story was out there recently, and she wrote next to "Negro" something like "Really? it's 2014!" - when the term "negro" doesn't even have any negative connotation.

To me it seems like the basic idea is that any time anyone non-black refers to blacks or notices ANYTHING about black culture, it is automatically "racist" today and this is completely absurd and needs to stop.

Has there ever been a more insecure group of people in the history of the planet?
 

fskimospy

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I say to black people who have any of that southern history/culture in their family: don't let people mocking it ruin it for you.

If there's some Norwegian family who loves their ludafisk or whatever the hell, they shouldn't let the fact that people mock that food (and they do) ruin it for them. If you like it, then have it and embrace it!

I'm pretty much 100% Irish and come from a very Irish Catholic family, and I fucking LOVE POTATOES and eat them way more than a normal person. I don't give a shit.

The stereotype of fried chicken, collard greens, corn bread, etc exists for a reason. Those WERE/ARE popular dishes among southern blacks and remained popular among a lot of black families who moved north. There is nothing inherently offensive about these foods, they are all good foods that plenty of white people eat too.

People are too god damned sensitive. It reminds me of the black girl filling out a census report or whatever, story was out there recently, and she wrote next to "Negro" something like "Really? it's 2014!" - when the term "negro" doesn't even have any negative connotation.

To me it seems like the basic idea is that any time anyone non-black refers to blacks or notices ANYTHING about black culture, it is automatically "racist" today and this is completely absurd and needs to stop.

Has there ever been a more insecure group of people in the history of the planet?

You aren't helping yourself here.
 

nehalem256

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Seems like the simplest solution is to just eliminate history months/weeks for all ethnic groups. Since they are pretty much just an opportunity to perpetuate racism anyway. :colbert:
 

Geosurface

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You aren't helping yourself here.

I'm not interested in "helping myself" I'm interested in helping you and everyone else get over their completely ridiculous hang-ups.

And your reply is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

You're welcome.
 

Vic

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Controversy aside, that actually sounds like some good southern cookin...

It's school cafeteria so you know they didn't cook it right. Proper southern cookin requires lard in the cornbread, ham hocks in the collard greens, and buttermilk marinated fried chicken (served with Franks red hot sauce).
Oh.. and proper watermelon, not that hecho en Mexico crap.

On topic, when I read this article I thought of that Big Bang episode where Sheldon is vying for the tenure position by giving inappropriate gifts to the members of the selection committee.
 
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HumblePie

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Really don't see the fuss. I'm mostly from Texas, and when I go places people always try point out the best local barbeque joint in whatever place they live to me just because I'm from Texas. I like barbeque, but its not all I eat. Still, I don't take offense to them trying to point out food they think I might like based on where I come from.