California School Honors Black History Month with Fried Chicken and Water Melon Lunch

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Orignal Earl

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Most Native people don't mind when a sports team is called the Redskins
But the Native people who come from around the Fort were always referred to and called redskins, so it's offensive to them
If you grew up watching those old shows with tap dancing chicken eating black folk on them, it may offend those that went through it, but not most black folk
 

UberNeuman

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I hope they follow it up with Redneck History Month. A month chock full of moonshine, meth-smoking, chaw-chewin' and sister banging....

\big toothless smiles, y'aw!:biggrin:
 

OCGuy

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I hope they follow it up with Redneck History Month. A month chock full of moonshine, meth-smoking, chaw-chewin' and sister banging....

\big toothless smiles, y'ah!:biggrin:

So a bunch of negative stereotypes would be the same as a food stereotype?

Ehhh....
 

fskimospy

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I'm not interested in "helping myself" I'm interested in helping you and everyone else get over their completely ridiculous hang-ups.

And your reply is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

You're welcome.

Yeah the problem is definitely with me.
 

OCGuy

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What's amatter, pal? I thought we were laughing?

Is that an attempt to be clever by insinuating that I took offense to the stereotypes you listed? :confused:

I wouldn't know how to feel "offended" if I tried. I'm not even sure it is a real emotion.
 

Geosurface

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What's amatter, pal? I thought we were laughing?

Is that an attempt to be clever by insinuating that I took offense to the stereotypes you listed? :confused:

I wouldn't know how to feel "offended" if I tried. I'm not even sure it is a real emotion.

One of the favorite ploys I see often is to pretend two things are equivalent (whether it's doing meth and eating chicken or two shooting incidents which have very little in common and key important differences) and then when the other person doesn't agree they're exactly the same (because they aren't) the first person says "ah ha! I knew you had a double standard based on race!"

And yea, being offended is a very popular emotion these days to either actually feel, or pretend to feel for various reasons. I don't have much respect for it.
 

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Most Native people don't mind when a sports team is called the Redskins
But the Native people who come from around the Fort were always referred to and called redskins, so it's offensive to them
If you grew up watching those old shows with tap dancing chicken eating black folk on them, it may offend those that went through it, but not most black folk

How many Native people currently alive do you think grew up near a fort? :hmm:
 

HumblePie

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Naw, the food needed to be washed down with this..

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My friend is one of Budweisers best sellers of that stuff. Tried some myself the other day and it was decent. He cracked a joke saying I wasn't dark enough to truly appreciate it. I laughed and still drank it down. BTW, he's black. Still he says more black people drink it than anyone else. At least around here. There are stereotypes because they are to an extent true. Black people like "hoopie" cars and cadillacs. Big rims too. Four Loko, Steel Reserve, kool aid, fried chicken, and other consumer products as compared to other ethnic demographics. Does it matter that one ethnic group likes one set of consumer goods over another? Not really.

In hindsight, the school should have done a survey with the black students, faculty, and parents to see what they may like served in the cafeteria to honor black history month to go along with all the other things the school wanted to do to promote the month. If the survey showed fried chicken and watermelon then so be it. If it should caviar and escargot then they should have served that.
 

Orignal Earl

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How many Native people currently alive do you think grew up near a fort? :hmm:

Fort is short for Fort Qu'Appelle around here. There are thousands of them
Between Alberta, Saskatchewan ,Manitoba your going to find a hundred forts and 10's of thousands
 

OCGuy

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Most Native people don't mind when a sports team is called the Redskins
But the Native people who come from around the Fort were always referred to and called redskins, so it's offensive to them
If you grew up watching those old shows with tap dancing chicken eating black folk on them, it may offend those that went through it, but not most black folk

Perfect example of a "white" person who is actually more racist than someone who uses the word "beloved patriot" only in reference to a sports team.

Poor Native Americans need you to come to the rescue and speak for them, right? They all think the same way, right? That is such condescending horseshat....

Polls have consistently shown otherwise.


As to your second non-applicable point, the "tap dancing" image you mention is a negative caricature, and has nothing to do with the sociological nature of a culture's food choice.
 

Geosurface

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Frankly now that the old cowboys and Indians fascination that was so big for kids back in the 50's and for a long time before that has gone away... I wonder if stuff like the sports teams using names like that is just about the only remaining visible, prominent cultural reference to Native Americans in the US.

I wonder if fighting to get rid of it (imperfect as it may be) is just pushing them even further into obscurity.
 

Orignal Earl

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Perfect example of a "white" person who is actually more racist than someone who uses the word "beloved patriot" only in reference to a sports team.

Poor Native Americans need you to come to the rescue and speak for them, right? They all think the same way, right? That is such condescending horseshat....

Polls have consistently shown otherwise.


As to your second non-applicable point, the "tap dancing" image you mention is a negative caricature, and has nothing to do with the sociological nature of a culture's food choice.

My youngest son is Metis, well he has a treaty card so full treaty
Ah ta me moonieass
 
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Vic

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Really don't see the fuss. I'm mostly from Texas, and when I go places people always try point out the best local barbeque joint in whatever place they live to me just because I'm from Texas. I like barbeque, but its not all I eat. Still, I don't take offense to them trying to point out food they think I might like based on where I come from.

Well, San Antonio is a barbecue mecca so you wouldn't understand how the rest of us deprived people feel.

I think the issue here is that that's Southern food, not necessarily black food. Blacks in California and the north tend to eat the local cuisine for the most part.
 

Orignal Earl

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Perfect example of a "white" person who is actually more racist than someone who uses the word "beloved patriot" only in reference to a sports team.

Poor Native Americans need you to come to the rescue and speak for them, right? They all think the same way, right? That is such condescending horseshat....

Polls have consistently shown otherwise.


As to your second non-applicable point, the "tap dancing" image you mention is a negative caricature, and has nothing to do with the sociological nature of a culture's food choice.

Oh..and I forgot to say that I actually say in my post that they all don't think the same , like twice
 

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Sometimes black people are just to uptight. Now all those foods are apart of our true culture. Every other culture in the world prides themselves on the foods of their culture, but we get mad. These are the things I don't understand about my own sometimes. And where is the chittlins and potato salad made with mustard in it?
 

Geosurface

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Sometimes black people are just to uptight. Now all those foods are apart of our true culture. Every other culture in the world prides themselves on the foods of their culture, but we get mad.

Thank you!

Exactly what I was trying to say. Thankfully you're actually allowed to say it.
 
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On the one hand, the school should have known better. We have a controversy about fried chicken and watermelon EVERY SINGLE TIME it gets associated with black people; it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone at this point, and the school is idiotic for inviting unnecessary controversy through their mindless action. On the other hand, fried chicken and watermelon is delicious, and it's a shame that such a good meal has been tarnished with the associations of racism. The school should never have tried to associate it with black history month, as that's asking for trouble. But they should definitely serve it at some point during the year. Good food knows no race.
 

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This just proves people will bitch about anything.

I'm offended because i wasn't invited for some damn fried chicken those bastards!