California giving drivers license's to illegals

[WaTaGuMp]

You need to show proof of insurance every year to register your car, they also ask if you are pulled over by the police.

 

[Humpy]

Like your Red states trying to sue my state for legalizing pot at the state level?

Conservatives and Liberals are both complete jokes, don't try to get on your high horse, it's only when it serves you that you want state rights.

I'm a Patriot and from upon my freedom horse I do not see color, only the black and white of the U.S. Constitution, by which our forefathers have of course provided a method for The States to settle disagreements amongst themselves.

The men who founded this country, men of action and great vision, have already laid the ground rules. All you pasty, frightened little basement dwellers need to do now is sack up and follow them. :|

 

[highland145]

But y'alls just allowed Negroes to drive too...

You expect Miss Daisy to drive herself?

 

[Mixolydian]

Around here they just drive without licenses.

 

[unokitty]

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[PliotronX]

 

[Staples]

Well just think all these guys will drive illegally whether they have a license. At least now they are subject to laws like needing insurance.

Illegals don't and can't pay taxes because they don't have SS#. Same concept.

I don't think it hurts, I think it helps with tracking illegals and getting more participation in the law.

 

[BurnItDwn]

No downside to giving them drivers licenses as they are then eligible to buy insurance.

IMO, driving without insurance is MUCH worse than crossing the border illegallly.

 

[piasabird]

California is a like a state that has legalized slavery.

I think the real problem is when you start spending tax dollars of the legal resident taxpayers on the illegal immigrants. The state is already going bankrupt. Just don't ask the federal government for a bailout.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Remind me never to visit Mexifornia again.

Why? It's not like they weren't driving before.

 

[ElFenix]

This just blows me away, the thinking of the lady in the video. She is not a criminal, except the part about being here illegally, and driving without a license.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/undocumented-immigrants-driver-licenses-california-222102571.html

being here illegally isn't a criminal act. not until you get caught once, released, and then come back, at least.

 

[Strk]

We have a crappy immigration system and this gets them insured. That sounds good to me.

 

[dphantom]

being here illegally isn't a criminal act. not until you get caught once, released, and then come back, at least.

crossing our border without permission is not illegal?

 

[OutHouse]

Nevermind

 

[BoomerD]

being here illegally isn't a criminal act. not until you get caught once, released, and then come back, at least.

Actually, illegal entry into the US of A IS a criminal act...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.

Unless, of course, you're saying that nothing is illegal...until you get caught...then I agree.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

being here illegally isn't a criminal act. not until you get caught once, released, and then come back, at least.

Are you saying that being here illegally is...not illegal?

EDIT: I feel like it's kind of disingenuous that I say "being here", since I'm obviously not in the same "here" as the rest of you.

 

[HTFOff]

We have a crappy immigration system and this gets them insured. That sounds good to me.

The law subsidizes auto insurance for illegals? I doubt it. That would be ridiculous even by california standards.

Unless you mean - people who came to foreign lands illegally will suddenly do the responsible thing and reach in to their pocket for the greater good of all drivers including themselves?

In that case, I look forward to your postcards from candyland.

 

[ElFenix]

Actually, illegal entry into the US of A IS a criminal act...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325




Unless, of course, you're saying that nothing is illegal...until you get caught...then I agree.

being here != illegal entry

Are you saying that being here illegally is...not illegal?

no, i'm saying it's not a criminal act. the difference is more than mere pedantics.

 

[Zaap]

California is a like a state that has legalized slavery.

This. It's slavery 3.0, the newest form, fully state sanction, P.C. nitwit approved.

Instead of bringing in people by force and undercutting legit labor (and having it inevitably shut down by the ugly social/racial disgustingness involved) you simply lure your illegitimate workforce in of their own free will exploiting an economic "dangled carrot", and grossly undercut legit labor with a clear conscience- heck, even gen. public approval.

You then prop the institution up by PR-casting it as the opposite of the original version: mask it a civil rights triumph, rather than the civil rights nightmare it really is.

As an exploiter, you get your cheap labor, undercut native labor and destroy the wages/work conditions of entire industries, throw the native poor into even worse conditions so they have to accept slavery 3.0 as well to compete- then rather than be cast a villain, you can be back-patted by nitwits as a civil rights champion! What's not to love, from the exploiters point of view?

And of course California's plantation owners are going to make sure their slaves can get around- you can't really have a system that can't get your illegal labor where you need it when you need it.

It's funny, driving around in LA, you'll see some old rattle-trap truck rumbling down Wilshire Blvd, dents galore, belching smoke against all smog codes, only one tail light working, rakes and landscaping tools hanging off the back, on its way to some exploiter's plantation in Beverly Hills or wherever.

The cops will roll right past it, *NEVER* pulling such a vehicle over. They'll go for the businessman in the Merc before they ever bother with that truck- for ANY reason what-so-ever short of maybe running over a dozen people or something. Because they know- it'll just mean a mountain of paperwork in store for them, no insurance, possibly no license. No money for the city- just a PITA, tons of run around and the driver will just be back on the street in no time.

Stopping some guy in a suit and a nice car on the way to work for something minor- heck at least they can fine that guy and squeeze another few nickels out of him for the city.

But nobody stands in the way of the slave trade.

 

[BoomerD]

being here != illegal entry




no, i'm saying it's not a criminal act. the difference is more than mere pedantics.

I'll concede that overstaying a visa and becoming illegal is (ever so slightly) different than swimming across the Rio Grande...but illegal none-the-less.

Deport them all...box car or pine box...the choice is up to them. :whiste:

 

[TreVader]

You would all, I'm sure, be happy to pay the cost associated with an accident with an undocumented migrant that can't purchase insurance.

All this outrage over people trying to find a better life when for the most part your fat non-migrant idiot American parents were just lucky enough to be born here.

I think we should deport all the natives who don't have an immigrant parent to see if they still are industrious enough to fine their way back. How else would we know that they are true Americans? They're not legal immigrants, they were just born here. They are anchor people!

 

[rpanic]

Next we will be giving them subsidized insurance since they can’t afford it.

 

[marincounty]

California is a like a state that has legalized slavery.

I think the real problem is when you start spending tax dollars of the legal resident taxpayers on the illegal immigrants. The state is already going bankrupt. Just don't ask the federal government for a bailout.

Actually California is running a surplus, and is also a donor state to the federal govt, giving more money than we are receiving in benefits.
Yeah, California sucks...don't move here.....ever.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Around here they just drive without licenses.

Which is a double edged sword - when you accidentally tap their bumper (because you assume they will go in a yield right turn lane when no one is coming for the next mile and a half ) and they just slam on their gas... I think it was a safe assumption I didn't need to pull over and show him my insurance :whiste:

 

[zerocool84]

You would all, I'm sure, be happy to pay the cost associated with an accident with an undocumented migrant that can't purchase insurance.

All this outrage over people trying to find a better life when for the most part your fat non-migrant idiot American parents were just lucky enough to be born here.

I think we should deport all the natives who don't have an immigrant parent to see if they still are industrious enough to fine their way back. How else would we know that they are true Americans? They're not legal immigrants, they were just born here. They are anchor people!

I have zero problem with them wanting a better life, doing it the correct way I'm all for. Doing it the illegal way is what I'm not for. It seems even though it's not easy getting citizenship here, many seem to at least try, unfortunately, most here in California don't and we all pay for every single one of them being here illegally.

Plus here in California, it's not like they will do anything to you if you are an illegal citizen and caught driving. That doesn't matter to them anymore and the illegal immigrants know it which is why more and more come over. The amount of illegal immigrants that will get licenses will be a small percentage. Why pay to do something that they can already do for free with no consequences?