California city council votes to remove noose from its logo

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pcgeek11

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Again, it's the connotation. Yes, it's pretty obvious that a city in CA wasn't well known for racist hangings. It still doesn't mean that it's a bad idea to remove a noose from their city logo, due to present day connotations.

It's the same reason that basically no cultures that the Swaztika was yoinked from still make use of it.
Sure, and it's exactly like how Confederate statues all over the south have nothing to do with the confederacy, because they were placed during the heights of various Civil Rights movements, after Reconstruction, and consecrated specifically with intent to intimidate black residents that dare attempt to vote and fight against Jim Crow and subjugation.

Defending any confederate statue on arguments of "confederate history" is the same sort of silliness.


Not defending or condeming the choice. It is theirs to make.

Just trying to clarify the many misconceptions in the thread.
 
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feralkid

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I believe this is a fairly simple explanation.





They could lose that awful font as well.

Just start the whole damn thing from scratch, this time hire a qualified graphic artist, not the Mayor's niece.
 

Sunburn74

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Seems like a pretty obvious thing to remove from a logo in this day and age. I mean, if there was a logo that involved guillotines or firing squads or people being drawn and quartered that also should come down. Those past actions really don't reflect the type of society we're trying to build today.
 

brycejones

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Seems like a pretty obvious thing to remove from a logo in this day and age. I mean, if there was a logo that involved guillotines or firing squads or people being drawn and quartered that also should come down. Those past actions really don't reflect the type of society we're trying to build today.
Are you sure? We certainly seem to have more than our fair sure of extra-judicial executions. That people routinely defend as appropriate.
 

Sunburn74

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Are you sure? We certainly seem to have more than our fair sure of extra-judicial executions. That people routinely defend as appropriate.
Doesn't mean we want them on logos. Even if people are justifying extra-judicial executions, america is a capitalist country and extra-judicial executions isn't really something that will bring in the big bucks to your town.