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ultimatebob

Lifer
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Yeah... If I worked from home every day, I could EASILY exceed the 50 GB monthly limit with all of the patches and .iso's that I download all the time. For $600 a year plus cable fees, a cap like that would be completely unacceptable for me.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Yeah... If I worked from home every day, I could EASILY exceed the 50 GB monthly limit with all of the patches and .iso's that I download all the time. For $600 a year plus cable fees, a cap like that would be completely unacceptable for me.

LOL, so don't use the service or pay for the service you need.

-edit-
I'll be more than happy to get you a always up, SLA'd, 45 meg up/downconnection to the tune of 10,000 dollars a month.
 

blckgrffn

Diamond Member
May 1, 2003
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www.teamjuchems.com
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Yeah... If I worked from home every day, I could EASILY exceed the 50 GB monthly limit with all of the patches and .iso's that I download all the time. For $600 a year plus cable fees, a cap like that would be completely unacceptable for me.

LOL, so don't use the service or pay for the service you need.

-edit-
I'll be more than happy to get you a always up, SLA'd, 45 meg up/downconnection to the tune of 10,000 dollars a month.


How would that be useful? He obviously doesn't need to use the 50gb a month all at once. That kind of connection is what the ISP should have, and even hosing that as much as he can with a 6 meg connection, they probably have 100 barely even using it concurrently. They are already paying for it, and as user demand grows the ISP should responsibly increase their bandwidth to fill the need.

Honestly, it just sounds like the ISP is oversold and looking to cap some high usage people by using obscure verbage in their agreements so that they can get more low usage accounts to fill their coffers without dishing out any more money. Hardly sounds like the way to run a business.

Slow/capped internet just hurts the US, and it should an are we lead in if we expect to stay tops in the world technologically wise. It's an information age, and we all need to be able to get at it or we lose out.

Nat
 

z42

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I have a question for some of you who are more knowledgable on these things. Assume a household where 2 people are both playing WOW/DDO/EQ2/whatever about 100 hours/month in addition to regular e-mail and web surfing. On a 3mb dsl/cable line, how much bandwith would that be using? I'm just curious how online gaming would fit into this picture.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Yeah... If I worked from home every day, I could EASILY exceed the 50 GB monthly limit with all of the patches and .iso's that I download all the time. For $600 a year plus cable fees, a cap like that would be completely unacceptable for me.

LOL, so don't use the service or pay for the service you need.

-edit-
I'll be more than happy to get you a always up, SLA'd, 45 meg up/downconnection to the tune of 10,000 dollars a month.

Sounds nice... Too bad I live over here in the Real World, where I work for a corporation that's too cheap to reemburse me more than $30 a month for my existing Internet access.

That's the nice thing about being a consultant, I guess... you get to recommend how things should be done instead of having deal with the day to day bureaucratic crap that us admin folks need to put up with.
 

DidlySquat

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Just a counter point - I can understand the ISP because ever since those new neighbors moved in (a young couple) my internet connection has been bogged down for hours almost every day. During those times, the ping time I'm getting while gaming online goes up to 150 from the usual 40 ms. I'm almost sure it's those f**king retard neighbors that's using the bandwidth like crazy, and so I'm considering complaining about the slowness to the ISP.

Bottom line is that the bandwidth is shared and there just isn't enough bandwidth right now to support 100 GB for everyone. The network can probably only support a much lower bandwidth on average per user. So ISP have no choice but to regulate or cut off people who use more than their fair share.
 

VenomXTF

Senior member
May 3, 2004
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If your connection gets that bad because new neighbors moved in. Then it's a problem with the ISPs network/hub. Not your neighbors.
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: VenomXTF
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Oh no, ?ISP issues again? I think to myself.
ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz

look, don't write forum posts like romance novels. nobody will read them.

No buddy, you look. Just because you cannot write (or read for that matter) don't get on my @ss for putting my thoughts into a well written post. I had nothing else to do while waiting for my internet to come back on yesterday, so I wrote down everything that happened. I stated from the beginning that it will be a long read, so if you don't have the reading comprehension, skip the thread. It is really not my fault you are under-educated and have no respect. Others have clearly read my whole "romance novel" and had no problem with it.

QFT (quoted for truth)

Agreed. It seems like all of the older guys around here are getting bitchy lately. Leave?
who's old?
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: VenomXTF
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: elkinm
Boy am I glad I have DSL. It is only 2.5 Mbps, good for about 260 KB/s, compared to true 6 Mbps or higher with cable.

260*60 = 15600 KB = 15.6 MB/min. 15600*60 = 936000 KB/hour or 936 MB per hour. So I believe I can download nearly a gigabyte in just one hour.

Judging from this then I easily download over 50 GB or hundreds of GBs simply from general large files and trailers, plus any other large files and programs you can easily download.

I keep thinking about those turtles in the comcast commercials which keep saying that Comcast is always fast. Here comcast is definitely saying that that is very untrue.

Do I smell a false advertising law suit at the very least or what?

Ok maybe I only have 400gb of hard drive space, but seriously, you have to be downloading terabytes to be shut down.

Comcast does not shut ppl down for downloading 50gb of data amonth. Even that is excessive IMO. How many TV episodes is that? 150? Geez.

Think about it this way, since you bring up video. One full VOD Blu-Ray (when ever that will be possible) movie can max out the 50GB limit for the whole month. One. Single. Movie.

I only have a 200GB (which has about 50GB free after all the programs/games/windows/vista) harddrive in my PC, and 20GB harddrive in my Xbox 360. I already explained what I downloaded last month and how easily it is to use up the bandwidth. It's not just files that use bandwidth though, so your 400GB of hard drive space really doesn't mean much when talking about internet bandwidth.
STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!!
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I think that spidey is a network admin, so you know damn well that he's going to take the ISP's side.

Anyway... If the service agreement for your ISP doesn't have any bandwidth limits listed in writing, you just might have grounds for a small claims court case against them. Just keep in mind that they might have logs of what you downloaded, so I wouldn't be going to court if they can show a history of you downloading 50 GB worth of donkey pr0n last month :)

For the record I am a network/security architect consultant that builds and designs network communication systems and have been doing so for the last 13 years. Please don't call me an admin.

The point is 30 bucks only gets you so much with this ISP and if you want more you have to pay for it. Networks are very expensive on the operations/expense side (the gear is a small portion of the cost with most of the cost ongoing expense and maintenance). What that means is even though the network is built out it costs even more money to operate it.

I'll say again that 50 GB a month is a large amount of traffic and businesses with thousands of employees hardly move that much a month.

If you want more, then pay for it.

With guys like this as Commanders of the Internets, it's no wonder the U.S. is falling fast.

DOWN WITH CAPITALISM!!
 

alphatarget1

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Blue Ridge cable, eh? Where are you located, if I might ask? I've also got Blue Ridge, and have received 2 of the bandwidth warnings. It's so very nice of them to say NOWHERE on their website what the monthly bandwidth allotment is.

I was just glad to get home from college though - we are allowed 1.5GB/week of downloads and 1.5GB/week of uploads. Yeah, total monthly download allottment of 6GB. That sucked. In the first week on campus I exceeded my 1.5GB. By about 2GB. In the first 3 days. Without filesharing or porn. I'll admit it - the first weekend on campus was boring as hell, and I wandered onto Metacafe.
The next time I exceeded, it was from downloading high-res pictures from Cassini and the MER sites, as well as user-created panoramas from another forum I frequent. Some of those things are over 50MB. High-res TIFF's also are quite large. Listening to online radio stations almost put me over another time.

Try 2gb download limit per month! Stupid German dorms. I did a lot of photo upload a few months ago and it was pretty fast (200kb/s+), and i uploaded like, 4gb.
 

blckgrffn

Diamond Member
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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I think that spidey is a network admin, so you know damn well that he's going to take the ISP's side.

Anyway... If the service agreement for your ISP doesn't have any bandwidth limits listed in writing, you just might have grounds for a small claims court case against them. Just keep in mind that they might have logs of what you downloaded, so I wouldn't be going to court if they can show a history of you downloading 50 GB worth of donkey pr0n last month :)

For the record I am a network/security architect consultant that builds and designs network communication systems and have been doing so for the last 13 years. Please don't call me an admin.

The point is 30 bucks only gets you so much with this ISP and if you want more you have to pay for it. Networks are very expensive on the operations/expense side (the gear is a small portion of the cost with most of the cost ongoing expense and maintenance). What that means is even though the network is built out it costs even more money to operate it.

I'll say again that 50 GB a month is a large amount of traffic and businesses with thousands of employees hardly move that much a month.

If you want more, then pay for it.

With guys like this as Commanders of the Internets, it's no wonder the U.S. is falling fast.

DOWN WITH CAPITALISM!!


The point is, we already pay a ton, and we don't get the equivalent of what other countries get. Capitalism has nothing to do with it, more like our government in bed with the telecoms, but that is a discussion for another day and another forum.

And what makes you think we won't see higher quality movie downloads online? I mean, other parts of the world can handle the higher service, so they will obviously progress in quality. Are we to be punished because the telecoms haven't provided much in the way in infrastructure lately, and what they do have sits dark?

Google may be our next evil overlord, but perhaps they will have the fundage to bring all that fiber online.

Nat
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I think that spidey is a network admin, so you know damn well that he's going to take the ISP's side.

Anyway... If the service agreement for your ISP doesn't have any bandwidth limits listed in writing, you just might have grounds for a small claims court case against them. Just keep in mind that they might have logs of what you downloaded, so I wouldn't be going to court if they can show a history of you downloading 50 GB worth of donkey pr0n last month :)

For the record I am a network/security architect consultant that builds and designs network communication systems and have been doing so for the last 13 years. Please don't call me an admin.

The point is 30 bucks only gets you so much with this ISP and if you want more you have to pay for it. Networks are very expensive on the operations/expense side (the gear is a small portion of the cost with most of the cost ongoing expense and maintenance). What that means is even though the network is built out it costs even more money to operate it.

I'll say again that 50 GB a month is a large amount of traffic and businesses with thousands of employees hardly move that much a month.

If you want more, then pay for it.

With guys like this as Commanders of the Internets, it's no wonder the U.S. is falling fast.

DOWN WITH CAPITALISM!!


The point is, we already pay a ton, and we don't get the equivalent of what other countries get. Capitalism has nothing to do with it, more like our government in bed with the telecoms, but that is a discussion for another day and another forum.

And what makes you think we won't see higher quality movie downloads online? I mean, other parts of the world can handle the higher service, so they will obviously progress in quality. Are we to be punished because the telecoms haven't provided much in the way in infrastructure lately, and what they do have sits dark?

Google may be our next evil overlord, but perhaps they will have the fundage to bring all that fiber online.

Nat

Population Density.

That's why we don't get the speeds that other countries do.
 

VenomXTF

Senior member
May 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: VenomXTF
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: elkinm
Boy am I glad I have DSL. It is only 2.5 Mbps, good for about 260 KB/s, compared to true 6 Mbps or higher with cable.

260*60 = 15600 KB = 15.6 MB/min. 15600*60 = 936000 KB/hour or 936 MB per hour. So I believe I can download nearly a gigabyte in just one hour.

Judging from this then I easily download over 50 GB or hundreds of GBs simply from general large files and trailers, plus any other large files and programs you can easily download.

I keep thinking about those turtles in the comcast commercials which keep saying that Comcast is always fast. Here comcast is definitely saying that that is very untrue.

Do I smell a false advertising law suit at the very least or what?

Ok maybe I only have 400gb of hard drive space, but seriously, you have to be downloading terabytes to be shut down.

Comcast does not shut ppl down for downloading 50gb of data amonth. Even that is excessive IMO. How many TV episodes is that? 150? Geez.

Think about it this way, since you bring up video. One full VOD Blu-Ray (when ever that will be possible) movie can max out the 50GB limit for the whole month. One. Single. Movie.

I only have a 200GB (which has about 50GB free after all the programs/games/windows/vista) harddrive in my PC, and 20GB harddrive in my Xbox 360. I already explained what I downloaded last month and how easily it is to use up the bandwidth. It's not just files that use bandwidth though, so your 400GB of hard drive space really doesn't mean much when talking about internet bandwidth.
STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!!

Right. As I said before, you have great reading skills. Would it be too much to ask for a mod to please ban or warn this guy? I know you probably ignore when users with 20K posts flame and thread crap, but I he has done nothing but so in my thread and it's getting annoying. Yet a guy that posts some macro's that he took and he's banned without warning.

 

Shimmishim

Elite Member
Feb 19, 2001
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nice read.

may make a suggestion?

i know the cliffs are in your second post.

it'd be ncie if you edited the first post and put a note saying there are cliffs in your second post up top or put the cliffs at the bottom of your original post. :)

just a suggestion.
 

mrSHEiK124

Lifer
Mar 6, 2004
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*hugs Bright House Networks*

7m/512k is just so much better when nobody bitches at you for using it alot :D
I think I might call and upgrade to 10m, its only $5 more.

Sorry if I'm rubbing it in your face OP, but have you thought of ditching Sh!tlog and getting EV-DO if its availible in your area? Maybe even EDGE?
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: VenomXTF
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: VenomXTF
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: elkinm
Boy am I glad I have DSL. It is only 2.5 Mbps, good for about 260 KB/s, compared to true 6 Mbps or higher with cable.

260*60 = 15600 KB = 15.6 MB/min. 15600*60 = 936000 KB/hour or 936 MB per hour. So I believe I can download nearly a gigabyte in just one hour.

Judging from this then I easily download over 50 GB or hundreds of GBs simply from general large files and trailers, plus any other large files and programs you can easily download.

I keep thinking about those turtles in the comcast commercials which keep saying that Comcast is always fast. Here comcast is definitely saying that that is very untrue.

Do I smell a false advertising law suit at the very least or what?

Ok maybe I only have 400gb of hard drive space, but seriously, you have to be downloading terabytes to be shut down.

Comcast does not shut ppl down for downloading 50gb of data amonth. Even that is excessive IMO. How many TV episodes is that? 150? Geez.

Think about it this way, since you bring up video. One full VOD Blu-Ray (when ever that will be possible) movie can max out the 50GB limit for the whole month. One. Single. Movie.

I only have a 200GB (which has about 50GB free after all the programs/games/windows/vista) harddrive in my PC, and 20GB harddrive in my Xbox 360. I already explained what I downloaded last month and how easily it is to use up the bandwidth. It's not just files that use bandwidth though, so your 400GB of hard drive space really doesn't mean much when talking about internet bandwidth.
STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!!

Right. As I said before, you have great reading skills. Would it be too much to ask for a mod to please ban or warn this guy? I know you probably ignore when users with 20K posts flame and thread crap, but I he has done nothing but so in my thread and it's getting annoying. Yet a guy that posts some macro's that he took and he's banned without warning.
Wah, "Jim Carrey is too much for me to take."
 

tami

Lifer
Nov 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: VenomXTF
Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: SampSon
You guys honestly think this is a "good read"?

nah, it could've been truncated and still make the same point.

like..

"i live in the boondocks where internet is a big deal. one day, my internet stopped working. i called them. i kept getting shifted from dept to dept who told me my internet was shut off for 30 days and that i supposedly received 3 warning letters before the termination (i did not and they kept blaming the post office for losing the letters). eventually, after 4 hours, i found out it was because i downloaded over 50gb in a month and this was never stated in their TOS. they turned it on. what are your thoughts?"

that would have been easier to read.

No I can't get verizon DSL. I really feel like a broken record now.

As far as a summary vs my story. Well you don't get the same idea of what happened, of what the customer service said. The point was not that there was a limit now, but how they go about blaming the post office, suspending the account and only when you get to a high up manager finding out that there is a limit, what it is, and getting your internet turned back on after 3 days.

Plus I posted cliffs, and I didn't make anyone read it who didn't want to read a long story. Who knows, maybe my story will help someone who gets in the same situation with their ISP. So if you don't like long rants, click back on your web browser.

lol funny

the point is... the ATOT community doesn't care and painting a little picture for them by emphasizing minor details still doesn't matter. that's why most of the people who responded either demanded cliffs or didn't read it at all, instead just giving stories about their own satisfaction with their current ISP.
 

VenomXTF

Senior member
May 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: VenomXTF
Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: SampSon
You guys honestly think this is a "good read"?

nah, it could've been truncated and still make the same point.

like..

"i live in the boondocks where internet is a big deal. one day, my internet stopped working. i called them. i kept getting shifted from dept to dept who told me my internet was shut off for 30 days and that i supposedly received 3 warning letters before the termination (i did not and they kept blaming the post office for losing the letters). eventually, after 4 hours, i found out it was because i downloaded over 50gb in a month and this was never stated in their TOS. they turned it on. what are your thoughts?"

that would have been easier to read.

No I can't get verizon DSL. I really feel like a broken record now.

As far as a summary vs my story. Well you don't get the same idea of what happened, of what the customer service said. The point was not that there was a limit now, but how they go about blaming the post office, suspending the account and only when you get to a high up manager finding out that there is a limit, what it is, and getting your internet turned back on after 3 days.

Plus I posted cliffs, and I didn't make anyone read it who didn't want to read a long story. Who knows, maybe my story will help someone who gets in the same situation with their ISP. So if you don't like long rants, click back on your web browser.

lol funny

the point is... the ATOT community doesn't care and painting a little picture for them by emphasizing minor details still doesn't matter. that's why most of the people who responded either demanded cliffs or didn't read it at all, instead just giving stories about their own satisfaction with their current ISP.

Thank you. I try.

As far as some of the ATOT community, I'm not even going to go there. Spend all day reading random useless threads, but can't take less than 5 minutes to read one post?

Again, if they don't want to read or know the details, I posted cliffs. While those that care to read it have that option also. Just because you don't care to, doesn't make it so for everyone.
 

Delbert

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Is there any way to monitor ones bandwidth if using a router? My sister is considering signing up for a satellite ISP (wild blue) because they are in a very rural area with no other real choices. She told me what their limit was (I?ve forgotten at the moment) but I told her I?d try to see what my family uses in the same time period for reference. Any thoughts on how to do that when there is a router involved?