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Cabinet Members In Discussions To Remove Trump As President By Invoking 25th Amendment

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God save the normal people. We knew and we tried to tell people THIS would happen if Donald Trump were elected president. And THEN congress had their chance AGAIN when Donald Trump was up for impeachment. THEY could have removed Trump THEN. But they didn’t and here we are today. 80 million of us KNEW this would happen. WE KNEW.... WE TRIED TO WARN. WE TRIED TO WARN EVERYONE.
 
Do it.

For crying out loud, there has to be SOME accountability. From the party of personal responsibility, of all things.

If nothing happens, next time they will storm a capitol and kill dozens of people. The images of that paramilitary guy with zip ties yesterday on Twitter was chilling. Like what were planning on doing? Executing members of Congress on live TV like ISIS? They're become everything they claim to oppose.
 
Do it.

For crying out loud, there has to be SOME accountability. From the party of personal responsibility, of all things.

If nothing happens, next time they will storm a capitol and kill dozens of people. The images of that paramilitary guy with zip ties yesterday on Twitter was chilling. Like what were planning on doing? Executing members of Congress on live TV like ISIS? They're become everything they claim to oppose.
Yes, not only do these individuals need to be prosecuted but this should put to an end any idea that we can just move on from the Trump years without taking action.

So anyways, yesterday did happen as I said it would, but in some ways you were right that they did try a violent coup!
 
So 2 weeks left and they throw him under the bus 25th whatever everything.
Say this shit went down 2 years ago over some other shit... would they still suddenly find their souls?
This isn't a situation to wander, wonder and sequester in hypotheticals. We have real problems and if we don't address them appropriately, we're blowing it. The 25th is in order now, no sane patriotic American should deny this.
 
God save the normal people. We knew and we tried to tell people THIS would happen if Donald Trump were elected president. And THEN congress had their chance AGAIN when Donald Trump was up for impeachment. THEY could have removed Trump THEN. But they didn’t and here we are today. 80 million of us KNEW this would happen. WE KNEW.... WE TRIED TO WARN. WE TRIED TO WARN EVERYONE.
We didn't know it. We knew it might happen. It's gone way past the point where we should remove the bastard.
 
We didn't know it. We knew it might happen. It's gone way past the point where we should remove the bastard.

OH YES, I knew it.... many people KNEW IT when Trump first announced. I pleaded with my Trumpie family members TO NOT support Donald Trump for president. Oh Yes.... I knew, we knew (some of us) that this WOULD HAPPEN i.e. a disastrous president Donald Trump and the destruction of America. Yes, we KNEW from the start.
 
Do it.

For crying out loud, there has to be SOME accountability. From the party of personal responsibility, of all things.

If nothing happens, next time they will storm a capitol and kill dozens of people. The images of that paramilitary guy with zip ties yesterday on Twitter was chilling. Like what were planning on doing? Executing members of Congress on live TV like ISIS? They're become everything they claim to oppose.
Trump's twitter video of about a minute, a good 1.5 hours later than it could have been (people were imploring him to say something but he was silent, obviously watching it all on TV) made it clear he loved what was happening, he reveled in it, he was delighted. He thanked the rioters, said "we love you," then finished with the obligatory (but insincere) suggestion that they should go home. He incited the riot, the invasion and desecration of the Capitol. He wanted this to happen all along. He's still gloating in its aftermath. Do you really think he's satisfied, though? Do you think for a second he's going to be content to witness no further insurrection in the next 13 days? Twitter, Facebook and Instagram should cancel his accounts at least until he's out of office. Everything possible should be done to remove him from office ASAP and insure that he never runs for public office again.
 
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If...( and that's a BIG if) there is enough political will on the GOP side to support removal via the 25th Amendment, then there is enough political will to do it via impeachment. Impeachment sends a stronger statement, it could prevent Trump from holding office again, and it can happen a lot more quickly.

Note the second paragraph of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment:

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office…

There is a lot of whipsawing back and forth before the issue gets settled.

Pence, et al: “Trump is crazy. Mike’s President now.” Pence acts as President.
Trump: “Nuh-uh. I’m not crazy. I’m still President.” Guess what? Now Trump’s still President.
Pence, et al: “We told you. Trump’s crazy. Here’s a letter. Mike should be President now.” Trump is still President while Congress meets.
…and then Congress takes God-only-knows-how-long to arrive at a decision; a decision which takes 2/3 of both houses of Congress to remove via this process v. 2/3 of only the Senate to remove via impeachment.

Alternatively, it takes very little time to draft up one article of impeachment (Rep. Omar says she’s got one ready to go), and there is no reason the Senate couldn’t convene, vote on that article, and have Dollhands Donnie out on his ass in an hour or two. Sure, there’d be lots of closed door meetings and whipping of votes, but if removal via 25th Amendment seemed like a do-able option, than impeachment is even easier, and more definitive.

I'll take either one, but the question is - do enough Republicans care enough about our Democratic Republic to act - I doubt it
 
LOL HAHAHA 🙄 🙄🙄
The FBI and DC police are "ASKING" for the public's help in identifying photos and video of those involved in the riot(s).
PICTURES you say??? PHOTOS you say???
Ok... Here You Go....
Do I get my $1000 reward now ????

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If...( and that's a BIG if) there is enough political will on the GOP side to support removal via the 25th Amendment, then there is enough political will to do it via impeachment. Impeachment sends a stronger statement, it could prevent Trump from holding office again, and it can happen a lot more quickly.

Note the second paragraph of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment:



There is a lot of whipsawing back and forth before the issue gets settled.

Pence, et al: “Trump is crazy. Mike’s President now.” Pence acts as President.
Trump: “Nuh-uh. I’m not crazy. I’m still President.” Guess what? Now Trump’s still President.
Pence, et al: “We told you. Trump’s crazy. Here’s a letter. Mike should be President now.” Trump is still President while Congress meets.
…and then Congress takes God-only-knows-how-long to arrive at a decision; a decision which takes 2/3 of both houses of Congress to remove via this process v. 2/3 of only the Senate to remove via impeachment.

Alternatively, it takes very little time to draft up one article of impeachment (Rep. Omar says she’s got one ready to go), and there is no reason the Senate couldn’t convene, vote on that article, and have Dollhands Donnie out on his ass in an hour or two. Sure, there’d be lots of closed door meetings and whipping of votes, but if removal via 25th Amendment seemed like a do-able option, than impeachment is even easier, and more definitive.

I'll take either one, but the question is - do enough Republicans care enough about our Democratic Republic to act - I doubt it

How do you get 2/3s of either house or senate to vote for that (something like at least 15 republicans?), when 45% of Republicans support the storming of the Capitol??!
 
OH YES, I knew it.... many people KNEW IT when Trump first announced. I pleaded with my Trumpie family members TO NOT support Donald Trump for president. Oh Yes.... I knew, we knew (some of us) that this WOULD HAPPEN i.e. a disastrous president Donald Trump and the destruction of America. Yes, we KNEW from the start.
Oh, I knew his administration would be a catastrophe start to finish. The details were fuzzy. Nobody had 2020 vision on what was going to happen, including you.
 
The distinct advantage of impeaching Trump again is that if he is under impeachment he can't be pardoned. He needs to pay for at least all the felonies he has committed while in office, and definitely does not deserve a pardon. Actually he should face a firing squad. The fact that he could never occupy a federal office again is just sauce for the goose.
 
If...( and that's a BIG if) there is enough political will on the GOP side to support removal via the 25th Amendment, then there is enough political will to do it via impeachment. Impeachment sends a stronger statement, it could prevent Trump from holding office again, and it can happen a lot more quickly.

Note the second paragraph of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment:



There is a lot of whipsawing back and forth before the issue gets settled.

Pence, et al: “Trump is crazy. Mike’s President now.” Pence acts as President.
Trump: “Nuh-uh. I’m not crazy. I’m still President.” Guess what? Now Trump’s still President.
Pence, et al: “We told you. Trump’s crazy. Here’s a letter. Mike should be President now.” Trump is still President while Congress meets.
…and then Congress takes God-only-knows-how-long to arrive at a decision; a decision which takes 2/3 of both houses of Congress to remove via this process v. 2/3 of only the Senate to remove via impeachment.

Alternatively, it takes very little time to draft up one article of impeachment (Rep. Omar says she’s got one ready to go), and there is no reason the Senate couldn’t convene, vote on that article, and have Dollhands Donnie out on his ass in an hour or two. Sure, there’d be lots of closed door meetings and whipping of votes, but if removal via 25th Amendment seemed like a do-able option, than impeachment is even easier, and more definitive.

I'll take either one, but the question is - do enough Republicans care enough about our Democratic Republic to act - I doubt it
Mean time it might distract Donnie enough to keep him from conjuring further insurrection.
 
If Democrats are the party of BLM, do we get to impeach Democrat leaders that haven't condemned the acts committed - looting, pillaging, burning down buildings, graffiti galore, dead and injured cops by the hundreds?
 
How do you get 2/3s of either house or senate to vote for that (something like at least 15 republicans?), when 45% of Republicans support the storming of the Capitol??!

Basic math? 45% of 50 is 23, leaving you 27, when you need 17.

Even many of the jackasses braying the loudest have done 180s, so many of them would not be in with the 45% of the Republican voters.
 
If Democrats are the party of BLM, do we get to impeach Democrat leaders that haven't condemned the acts committed - looting, pillaging, burning down buildings, graffiti galore, dead and injured cops by the hundreds?
We should remove any Democratic officials that actively invited attacks on government buildings and officials in the same way Trump did, yes.

Can you provide a list of those individuals and links to your evidence for this?
 
We should remove any Democratic officials that actively invited attacks on government buildings and officials in the same way Trump did, yes.

Can you provide a list of those individuals and links to your evidence for this?

Narrator: He couldn't.
 
Oh, I knew his administration would be a catastrophe start to finish. The details were fuzzy. Nobody had 2020 vision on what was going to happen, including you.

Michael Moore did back in 2016. No one else took Trump seriously. You had to have not been paying any attention to not know this wasn't coming yesterday. Dear Nazi had been fomenting this for months.
 
The American left is so fucking blind to the danger Trump is and has been. It sickens me hearing us ever since the election try to play off Trump's power grab to become king as oh it's just a con to raise money from the stupid rubes. Seems like almost none of us fucking take Trump seriously even after four years of seeing Trump is dead serious every single time he floats a terrible idea out there.
 
If Democrats are the party of BLM, do we get to impeach Democrat leaders that haven't condemned the acts committed - looting, pillaging, burning down buildings, graffiti galore, dead and injured cops by the hundreds?
So many things wrong with this.
You can't impeach members of Congress.
Every single Democratic politician that I've seen has condemned all the things you mentioned.
Finally, rioting is not the same as armed insurrection. This was not a riot. This was a rebellion or insurrection, and those that were a part of it, should be charged with rebellion, and the President and several GOP Senators and Representatives, should be tried for sedition.
 
Basic math? 45% of 50 is 23, leaving you 27, when you need 17.

Even many of the jackasses braying the loudest have done 180s, so many of them would not be in with the 45% of the Republican voters.

Well it's 45% of voters, and they are somewhat evenly spread throughout GOP districts. So every GOP senator has many of these who would be angry with them and calling them if they did anything against trump. And many probably primaried from the right. I guess even now maybe 4-5 GOP senators would vote for any type of removal of Trump? Maybe 10 of them, tops?
 
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