JSt0rm
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My god there is no pleasing you Republicans. You scream people are getting paid too much and when a state goes down to the minimum you bitch.
Make up your fucking minds.
Could they have met the budget using furloughs? County of Maui is doing 1 day of furlough a month starting next month, and I'm glad. I'd much rather do 5% less work for 5% less pay than have 5% layoffs.
In California there seems to be an irrational hatred of working less than 160 hours a month... I'm not sure where that attitude comes from. If their stance really is "No way will I work less for less pay, I want my full pay, budget be damned!!" then they deserve minimum wage. Enjoy not getting a day off, idiots.
Or lay them off, and each Friday send them a letter saying "You could have been enjoying furlough Friday today, good luck with your job search". Also send a letter to the lucky ones who didn't get laid off saying "You could have been enjoying furlough Friday today, but instead you're doing extra work to make up for the laid off guy".
Did you notice that the worst offenders as far as excessive salaries and pensions, have already struck deals with the governator so they will not be affected?
"The four unions that recently reached tentative agreements on new contracts (CHP officers, firefighters, psychiatric technicians, and some medical professionals) would not be subject to any new furlough program or minimum wage payments, assuming their contracts are ratified in a timely manner."
What's up with all you whiners blasting the OP? I don't see a complaint at all in that post, it's just a quoted memo and some commentary. He's not bitching about anything, he's just making a statement.
There's no edit, there's no follow up post. You're reading something into it that's not even there. Then to top it off, you guys are having a circle-jerk over it and Dave's the pivot man.
What's up with all you whiners blasting the OP? I don't see a complaint at all in that post, it's just a quoted memo and some commentary. He's not bitching about anything, he's just making a statement.
There's no edit, there's no follow up post. You're reading something into it that's not even there. Then to top it off, you guys are having a circle-jerk over it and Dave's the pivot man.
Exactly what I was about to post. Not to mention that most people capable of sentient thought recognize that there is generally room between wages paid (especially in California government!) and minimum wage. Even if the OP does not support paying them minimum wage, that is hardly crying or bitching.
There really needs to be a mechanism for EVERYONE in government to take a 5% or 10% or 20% cut in pay, including unions, when times are hard, to avoid layoffs.
FINALLY! Now all the states should follow California's lead. Pay them all minimum wage. All of them!
Ask the OP.What's the big thumbs down in the post title for, then?
Yeah that's right...lets just take away every incentive there is to work in the public sector. It is absolutely impossible to survive in Cali on minimum wage.
Fucking idiot.
Ask the OP.
IMO it sets the tone of the post. It doesn't necessarily define it. If the OP (dquan97) is a frequent poster here in P&N, I'm guilty of not realizing that. What I'm saying is that I personally, have no idea what his political leanings are. In addition, his post was neutral from my interpretation.
Dave, in his usual manner, gave his typical canned response that IMO, was out of line based on the post. Nothing new there.
Maybe a gap between being taxed 10% of $10 million and 15% of $10 million, too.
Oh no! That's a tax increase!
What's the net difference between the tax increase and pay cut again?
Person gets $100 in salary. Tax increase of $10 more; or pay cut of $10.
Either way it's the same effect.
Oh ya, the difference - state workers, not the top 1%, not the voters in the private sector. Tax those lousy smelly state workers.
Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree.
For once I think I agree with this clown. I'm not sure I understand the OP's outrage, does he want CA gov't employees to get a raise? Should the budget cuts be made elsewhere? Should the problem simply be ignored - pay everyone a full wage with good benefits, budget be damned?
So is the Governor going to work for minimum wage or take a furlough?
They could just force everyone to use their vacation all at once and shut down the government for the month of July or August. Just call it forced vacation of planned government shutdown. It is kind of hard to shutdown hospitals or police and firemen.
If anything, there is too much incentive to work in the public sector. Why is it that across the board (federal and states) jobs are being added while private sector is cutting jobs?
Just because unemployment is high doesn't mean the gov't needs to offer a teat for the unemployed to suck on.
These kinds of cuts should be in any contract with a union in the PUBLIC sector---except a union won't allow it because they will see it as a slippery slope.
There really needs to be a mechanism for EVERYONE in government to take a 5% or 10% or 20% cut in pay, including unions, when times are hard, to avoid layoffs.