Bye-bye Tubby!

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Queasy
Auburn has already lost about 5 of their top recruits. The firing of Tuberville and the way it has been handled threatens to set the AU program back a couple of years unless AU hires a new HC that is dynamic and an excellent recruiter.

Let's be honest, there weren't too many "great" prospects in AU's class this year anyway. Cotton and Lutz would be great additions. If we're still interested in them, I'm sure the new HC will have no problems luring them back from Southern Miss, Kentucky, Troy, etc...

The ones mentioned in this article are all 4 star recruits and are considering schools like Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Purdue.

AU's biggest problem is that they've got to find a QB. Kodi Burns has just not shown that he can be a capable SEC QB.

I'm not concerned with Alabama going after those recruits. As we've been told time and time again by The Mullet Nation...Bama's not interested in anyone that Auburn recruits.

 

[cultgag]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: 2canSAM
And Saban "was not coming to AL at all"

AU lost a ton of respect doing this, the man has been a good coach the rest of the years, he just had the balls to try something different, that although it did not work, showed alot of weaknesses on his team.

Tuberville resigned. From what I've been hearing it was more mutual than first thought. Tub's was going to have to overhaul his entire staff of ACs, another OC, and possibly another DC he decided against doing that. There have also been rumors that his wife has wanted him to retire for a couple years now and this is the perfect opportunity now.


My perspective: Tuberville was a solid, not great coach. He ran a clean, disciplined program. AU players were not regulars on the police blotter and he had a pretty good graduation %. My problem with Tuberville was never how he ran the program (I think he'd make a fantastic AD), it was his coaching (or lack thereof) on the field. Auburn never seemed to make halftime adjustments and lacked a killer instinct. Even during the 2004 run, Auburn let teams hang around that never really put anyone away. I wish him success in all his future endeavours.

Thanks Coach Tuberville. You ran a good program and did a terrific job of cleaning up the horrible situation left behind by Tater Tot.

I agree and half time adjusments not being made but at the same time he always did a great job of getting the best out of athletes as we all know Auburn does not have deep enough pockets to beat other SEC programs in recruits...

Don't even get me started on the 2004 season again...The only reason teams hung around was b/c we sat all our starts after the first half b/c we were killing them and didn't run up the score. God that team was scary good.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Tuberville averaged 10 wins a year his last 5 years ... he had one bad season, so what?

And only 1 SEC Championship. Yes, he was a pretty decent coach but he wasn't spectacular. You can only throw so many OCs under the bus before people realize what the common denominator is with your lousy offense.

What do you mean, "only" one SEC title?

How many do Auburn fans think they are supposed to win? Who do they think they are...'Bama? USC?

I find it amusing that both Auburn and Clemson have ditched their head coaches, when both have had teams that performed as well as the school's teams have historically.

Again, who does Auburn think they are? Yeah, they're a good program, but they ARE in the SEC. They might want to be in the SEC title game every year, but that isn't realistic.

Historically, they have a fairly even head-to-head record, but overall, Auburn can't hold 'Bama's jock. I know Auburn fans would LIKE to be that good, but they need to face facts: They aren't.

 

[cultgag]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Tuberville averaged 10 wins a year his last 5 years ... he had one bad season, so what?

And only 1 SEC Championship. Yes, he was a pretty decent coach but he wasn't spectacular. You can only throw so many OCs under the bus before people realize what the common denominator is with your lousy offense.

What do you mean, "only" one SEC title?

How many do Auburn fans think they are supposed to win? Who do they think they are...'Bama? USC?

I find it amusing that both Auburn and Clemson have ditched their head coaches, when both have had teams that performed as well as the school's teams have historically.

Again, who does Auburn think they are? Yeah, they're a good program, but they ARE in the SEC. They might want to be in the SEC title game every year, but that isn't realistic.

Historically, they have a fairly even head-to-head record, but overall, Auburn can't hold 'Bama's jock. I know Auburn fans would LIKE to be that good, but they need to face facts: They aren't.

bwahahahahahah WTH?? Of all teams you bring up Alabama? Because they've had 1 good season in what, ten yrs? Auburn was projected to contend for the championship year in and year out, hence the disappointment.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Tuberville averaged 10 wins a year his last 5 years ... he had one bad season, so what?

And only 1 SEC Championship. Yes, he was a pretty decent coach but he wasn't spectacular. You can only throw so many OCs under the bus before people realize what the common denominator is with your lousy offense.

What do you mean, "only" one SEC title?

How many do Auburn fans think they are supposed to win? Who do they think they are...'Bama? USC?

I find it amusing that both Auburn and Clemson have ditched their head coaches, when both have had teams that performed as well as the school's teams have historically.

Again, who does Auburn think they are? Yeah, they're a good program, but they ARE in the SEC. They might want to be in the SEC title game every year, but that isn't realistic.

Historically, they have a fairly even head-to-head record, but overall, Auburn can't hold 'Bama's jock. I know Auburn fans would LIKE to be that good, but they need to face facts: They aren't.

I expect to make the title game more than once every 5 years. Hell, I don't think anyone in the SEC expects to make the title game every year.

CTT has performed slightly above the historical average for AU but I really believe he took the program as far as he could and now I'd like to see someone come in and build upon that success. This is not the 60's & 70's anymore. Bama cannot lock up all the regional talent on scholarship due to NCAA regulations limiting scholarships. There is absolutely no reason that Auburn cannot compete for SEC crowns on a regular basis.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Gary Patterson could do wonders...

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Auburn's wish list reportedly could include Texas Tech's Mike Leach, Louisiana Tech's Derek Dooley and current coaches-in-waiting Jimbo Fisher of Florida State and Will Muschamp at Texas.

Leach is quite the flavor of the month

Flavor of the last three years. Over the last three years hes been contacted by a number of major schools. He also pursued one, UCLA.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Auburn's wish list reportedly could include Texas Tech's Mike Leach, Louisiana Tech's Derek Dooley and current coaches-in-waiting Jimbo Fisher of Florida State and Will Muschamp at Texas.

Leach is quite the flavor of the month

For the love of all that is good and holy, please let Washington hire Leach and get him off this Auburn "wish list".

Leach withdrew his name from consideration at UW.

So far this year no school has sought permission from Tech to officially talk to Leach.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: cultgag

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Tuberville averaged 10 wins a year his last 5 years ... he had one bad season, so what?

And only 1 SEC Championship. Yes, he was a pretty decent coach but he wasn't spectacular. You can only throw so many OCs under the bus before people realize what the common denominator is with your lousy offense.

What do you mean, "only" one SEC title?

How many do Auburn fans think they are supposed to win? Who do they think they are...'Bama? USC?

I find it amusing that both Auburn and Clemson have ditched their head coaches, when both have had teams that performed as well as the school's teams have historically.

Again, who does Auburn think they are? Yeah, they're a good program, but they ARE in the SEC. They might want to be in the SEC title game every year, but that isn't realistic.

Historically, they have a fairly even head-to-head record, but overall, Auburn can't hold 'Bama's jock. I know Auburn fans would LIKE to be that good, but they need to face facts: They aren't.

bwahahahahahah WTH?? Of all teams you bring up Alabama? Because they've had 1 good season in what, ten yrs? Auburn was projected to contend for the championship year in and year out, hence the disappointment.

Projections are a bunch of crap. Meaningless.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Last 3 seasons: 9-4, 11-2, 9-3.

Tubbs is 85-40 in ten seasons. That's 8 wins a year.

Auburn's average wins per season is about 6.

He got you an undefeated season, an SEC title and two appearances in the SEC title game.

Auburn isn't going to do any better than that, no matter WHO they hire.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Last 3 seasons: 9-4, 11-2, 9-3.

Tubbs is 85-40 in ten seasons. That's 8 wins a year.

Auburn's average wins per season is about 6.

He got you an undefeated season, an SEC title and two appearances in the SEC title game.

Auburn isn't going to do any better than that, no matter WHO they hire.

You a bammer?

IIRC, Auburn won something like 3 straight SEC titles in the 80s. That's a lot harder to do these days, but it wasn't exactly easy back then. Auburn's one of the 'big 6' in the SEC and should be fighting it out with LSU and bama for the West title most years. Not every year, but most years. This year we lost to Vanderbilt.

Common theme in the losses this year (and last): falling apart in the 3rd quarter, unforced turnovers, awful special teams play, mental mistakes (like offsides penalties). That seems like coaching to me.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Last 3 seasons: 9-4, 11-2, 9-3.

Tubbs is 85-40 in ten seasons. That's 8 wins a year.

Auburn's average wins per season is about 6.

He got you an undefeated season, an SEC title and two appearances in the SEC title game.

Auburn isn't going to do any better than that, no matter WHO they hire.

You a bammer?

IIRC, Auburn won something like 3 straight SEC titles in the 80s. That's a lot harder to do these days, but it wasn't exactly easy back then. Auburn's one of the 'big 6' in the SEC and should be fighting it out with LSU and bama for the West title most years. Not every year, but most years. This year we lost to Vanderbilt.

Common theme in the losses this year (and last): falling apart in the 3rd quarter, unforced turnovers, awful special teams play, mental mistakes (like offsides penalties). That seems like coaching to me.

and vanderbilt is going to a bowl in the first time for how many decades? auburn suffered from the same thing this year that lsu suffered from, no qb.

i'm sure mike leach would jump at this job.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Last 3 seasons: 9-4, 11-2, 9-3.

Tubbs is 85-40 in ten seasons. That's 8 wins a year.

Auburn's average wins per season is about 6.

He got you an undefeated season, an SEC title and two appearances in the SEC title game.

Auburn isn't going to do any better than that, no matter WHO they hire.

You a bammer?

IIRC, Auburn won something like 3 straight SEC titles in the 80s. That's a lot harder to do these days, but it wasn't exactly easy back then. Auburn's one of the 'big 6' in the SEC and should be fighting it out with LSU and bama for the West title most years. Not every year, but most years. This year we lost to Vanderbilt.

Common theme in the losses this year (and last): falling apart in the 3rd quarter, unforced turnovers, awful special teams play, mental mistakes (like offsides penalties). That seems like coaching to me.

and vanderbilt is going to a bowl in the first time for how many decades? auburn suffered from the same thing this year that lsu suffered from, no qb.

i'm sure mike leach would jump at this job.

It was a LOT more than just QB play, I watched every game except UT-Martin.

 

[Sasiki]

Originally posted by: Gibsons
It was a LOT more than just QB play, I watched every game except UT-Martin.

I gave my tickets away for that game. One of the couple games I didn't go to and from what I hear, Auburn played a pretty good ballgame.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Last 3 seasons: 9-4, 11-2, 9-3.

Tubbs is 85-40 in ten seasons. That's 8 wins a year.

Auburn's average wins per season is about 6.

He got you an undefeated season, an SEC title and two appearances in the SEC title game.

Auburn isn't going to do any better than that, no matter WHO they hire.

You a bammer?

IIRC, Auburn won something like 3 straight SEC titles in the 80s. That's a lot harder to do these days, but it wasn't exactly easy back then. Auburn's one of the 'big 6' in the SEC and should be fighting it out with LSU and bama for the West title most years. Not every year, but most years. This year we lost to Vanderbilt.

Common theme in the losses this year (and last): falling apart in the 3rd quarter, unforced turnovers, awful special teams play, mental mistakes (like offsides penalties). That seems like coaching to me.

No 'Bama fan here. Just wondering why Auburn fans think that a coach who won more there than most coaches have all of a sudden doesn't know how to coach.
Tuberville did make a big mistake trying the spread this season, but given his success over the years, I don't see one bad season warranting his dismissal.

And make no mistake, he was fired, regardless of what you read. A school doesn't pay a buyout of 5 million when someone quits.

Good luck getting another coach who wins as much as he did.

edit: BTW, who are the "Big 6" in the SEC? 'Bama, Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, UGA...and who else?
Nobody else is a "traditional" or "historical" power in the SEC. Florida sure isn't. They had never won ANYTHING until Spurrier got there in the early 90's. They are a recent arrival on the national stage.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Last 3 seasons: 9-4, 11-2, 9-3.

Tubbs is 85-40 in ten seasons. That's 8 wins a year.

Auburn's average wins per season is about 6.

He got you an undefeated season, an SEC title and two appearances in the SEC title game.

Auburn isn't going to do any better than that, no matter WHO they hire.

You a bammer?

IIRC, Auburn won something like 3 straight SEC titles in the 80s. That's a lot harder to do these days, but it wasn't exactly easy back then. Auburn's one of the 'big 6' in the SEC and should be fighting it out with LSU and bama for the West title most years. Not every year, but most years. This year we lost to Vanderbilt.

Common theme in the losses this year (and last): falling apart in the 3rd quarter, unforced turnovers, awful special teams play, mental mistakes (like offsides penalties). That seems like coaching to me.

No 'Bama fan here. Just wondering why Auburn fans think that a coach who won more there than most coaches have all of a sudden doesn't know how to coach.

Tuberville did make a big mistake trying the spread this season, but given his success over the years, I don't see one bad season warranting his dismissal.

I don't think it's one season, it's a trend. I'm pretty sure a lot of this has to do with his unwillingness to turnover a few assistant coaches. Also a few key alumni that he didn't mesh well with. I like Tubs a lot, he ran a clean program, did things the right way. But things were clearly moving in the wrong direction.

And make no mistake, he was fired, regardless of what you read. A school doesn't pay a buyout of 5 million when someone quits.

yep.

Good luck getting another coach who wins as much as he did.

edit: BTW, who are the "Big 6" in the SEC? 'Bama, Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, UGA...and who else?
Nobody else is a "traditional" or "historical" power in the SEC. Florida sure isn't. They had never won ANYTHING until Spurrier got there in the early 90's. They are a recent arrival on the national stage.

They're ranked #2 in the country right now? Won a NC 2 years ago? Recent or not, they're a huge school with a huge alumni base, plenty of money, in as good a recruiting territory as there is, outside of possibly USCs. No reason to think they won't stay in the upper echelon. They had some very good teams before Spurrier showed up also, got hurt by probation a few times... And I say this with a healthy hatred of them.

 

[Pacfanweb]

How can you say "it's a trend", looking at Tubb's last 3 seasons? 9-4, 11-2, 9-3.

This season is a fluke, nothing more. He has a highly recruited QB that's not panning out. That can KILL a team. Trying the spread offense out wasn't such a hot idea, I don't think...not when the team is built for smash-mouth ball. But it's not like he was on a steady decline.

But whatever....the minority at Auburn got their wish.

 

[cultgag]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: cultgag

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Tuberville averaged 10 wins a year his last 5 years ... he had one bad season, so what?

And only 1 SEC Championship. Yes, he was a pretty decent coach but he wasn't spectacular. You can only throw so many OCs under the bus before people realize what the common denominator is with your lousy offense.

What do you mean, "only" one SEC title?

How many do Auburn fans think they are supposed to win? Who do they think they are...'Bama? USC?

I find it amusing that both Auburn and Clemson have ditched their head coaches, when both have had teams that performed as well as the school's teams have historically.

Again, who does Auburn think they are? Yeah, they're a good program, but they ARE in the SEC. They might want to be in the SEC title game every year, but that isn't realistic.

Historically, they have a fairly even head-to-head record, but overall, Auburn can't hold 'Bama's jock. I know Auburn fans would LIKE to be that good, but they need to face facts: They aren't.

bwahahahahahah WTH?? Of all teams you bring up Alabama? Because they've had 1 good season in what, ten yrs? Auburn was projected to contend for the championship year in and year out, hence the disappointment.

Projections are a bunch of crap. Meaningless.

Just like using a historical base to measure a team like Alabama? I think projections being meaningless was proven by Georgia this year, but atleast projections are based on the most current team and not what a team did 20 yrs ago.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
How can you say "it's a trend", looking at Tubb's last 3 seasons? 9-4, 11-2, 9-3.

This season is a fluke, nothing more. He has a highly recruited QB that's not panning out. That can KILL a team. Trying the spread offense out wasn't such a hot idea, I don't think...not when the team is built for smash-mouth ball. But it's not like he was on a steady decline.

But whatever....the minority at Auburn got their wish.

CTT and his offensive staff regularly failed to develop offensive talent outside of the OL (which fell apart this year) and RBs (ridiculously average this year). No QB development, WRs that cannot get open or properly run routes, TEs that can't seem to catch, weak special teams coverage, etc...

That doesn't even cover the complete lack of halftime adjustments, lack of mental toughness, discpline, no run defense, etc... That is all coaching or lack thereof. CTT's absolute loyalty to the "BBQ Gang" did him in.

 

[JohnCU]

lol

wow, apparently they hired someone pretty god damn awful.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
lol

wow, apparently they hired someone pretty god damn awful.

Posted here

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: JohnCU
lol

wow, apparently they hired someone pretty god damn awful.

Posted here

oh ok didn't see that in the search, bleh im blind