JM Aggie08
Diamond Member
Zune Pass > you
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Buying MP3s... a few years later
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Goosemaster
Lifer
There are free GUI's out there
randomlinh
Lifer
there are far better options that you don't Have to pay for. You just have to look. Although, if you own a Mac oddly enough, it wouldn't work for you.. heh.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Technically, it is *not* legal to transfer from one medium to another. You can legally make a backup CD, as long as the original isn't copy protected.
crud... the link to the legal things is on my school computer. I had suggested there that they convert all their VHS tapes to DVD's. They pointed right at the law for me; there are very few exceptions to it. Of course, they're not going after people for burning their own MP3's from their own CD's.... YET
Rock Hydra
Diamond Member
I look at it this way. I'm paying for the convenience to find pretty much anything I want from a central location, using a download manager for songs, have them named CORRECTLY, how I want them, and in almost any format I could ever use. I would (and do) pay for that.
Kadarin
Lifer
Exactly. You're paying for the service of them indexing their selection, and providing recommendations by genre. It's easy to find new music that you like on allofmp3.com because you can listen to free previews (full song, just lower quality), and decide what you want to download. You can also choose the bitrate of encoding, and there is NO DRM.
Also, allofmp3.com isn't pirating music, in spite of what the RIAA says. They pay royalties in accordance with Russian copyright law to an organization that holds the money in trust for the rights holders. It's the RIAA's (and other associated organizations) choice to not accept those royalties.
touchmyichi
Golden Member
Any paid music download service is terrible. Seriously, just buy the album at a cheap price or used on ebay for the same price. Then you have a permanent copy and can convert it to the music file of your choice. Anything below V0 quality is simply unacceptable if you have a high quality headphone setup and legal services rarely match this. Ironically, the albums on illegal torrent sites are ripped at much higher quality.
blurredvision
Lifer
So is stealing.
And to the OP, your stealing music for the past few years is why you (and everyone else) is having a bitch of a time with DRM. I'd like to personally thank you for that.
blurredvision
Lifer
You can look at it any way you want, but any light you put it under, it's pirating. You are paying to pirate songs, therefore you are stupid.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with everyone who say that allofmp3.com is the absolute closest "service" out there that gets it right, as they do a hell of a job offering different and better ways to download your music. But no matter how you justify it to yourself, you're stealing.
Allofmp3.com is pirating music, in spite of what you delude yourself to, Astaroth. You can lean against "russian law" all you want, but the fact of the matter is that you live in America, and over here we pay people for our content. How in the hell do you expect artists and record labels to keep making fvcking music if you're not paying them!?!?!?! I don't give a sh|t if you disagree with their pricing or tactics or royalties or what's given to the artists, it's not up to you.
Pirating music (and yes, allofmp3 is pirating) is akin to buying stolen merchandise out of someone's trunk on the street.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
the industry is full of it definelty. and yea that mp3 site many of us love just shows how viable multiple non drm'd format sales are, even if it cost a dollar a song in legit format it would be a great deal. its technically possible, they just choose to sell an inferior product. the bottom line is that they really dont' like online sales that aren't in album form. they want to force package sales in album form so they can make money from even lousy songs.
Double Trouble
Elite Member
I think a few people are finally "getting it", DRM in any form is a pain and puts restrictions on fair use rights. Even when they have the option of pirating music for free, people are perfectly willing to pay for legal downloads, provided they are getting a good product in a convenient hassle-free way. DRM riddled junk tied to one manufacturer or one device is not a good product, hence the rise of allofmp3.
Oh!, You're one of those brainwashed idiots who thinks the RIAA isn't using unfair business practices to bend your ass over a barrell and chain bang ya. Thats fine..
I'm just saying the same thing I've been saying for YEARS.... DRM is not the answer... the answer is to have a site, like iTUNES where people can download any music they want, quickly, in the format they want.... and you can charge them for it. Take people like myself... I would rather pay the money and get the music the way I want it, than go through the trouble, and guilt of pirating it.
As for DRM being my fault... you haven't been paying attention if you think DRM has done anything to impact people who are getting their music illegally... It's still just as easy to get whatever music you want for free.... all it's doing is making life more difficult for people who want to buy their music legally.
-Max
This is what sucks. Us nerds are going to really get it in the neck in a few years when joe sixpack tries to transfer his music to a new machine. Right now, they're downloading the music, thinking it's all as before... I'd like to see what apple's itunes sales would be if they were forced to inform people in a very obvious manner (ie not in the smallprint of some EULA) that the music they were buying was actually crippled. I too have cash, but refuse to *pay* fgor something that I'm essentially only borrowing. I want to own my music. the choice is:
a) Download free music, often at a higher quality than you can legally download it at
b) Pay for crippled crap that you can only listen to for a while.
Hell, I still have my first ever downloaded MP3 back from the days before the original napster and have gone through several computers in that time. I still listen to it, but wouldn't be able to if I had legally bought it as per today's standards.
Go stick it up your arse, RIAA, etc.
a) Download free music, often at a higher quality than you can legally download it at
b) Pay for crippled crap that you can only listen to for a while.
Hell, I still have my first ever downloaded MP3 back from the days before the original napster and have gone through several computers in that time. I still listen to it, but wouldn't be able to if I had legally bought it as per today's standards.
Go stick it up your arse, RIAA, etc.
Fingolfin269
Lifer
You call stealing music 'old fashioned'?
dennilfloss
Past Lifer 1957-2014 In Memoriam
One more reason I love living in Canada.😎
imported_Mike
Lifer
Yea...b/c us Americans follow all our stupid laws....
blurredvision
Lifer
As for the first paragraph, it doesn't matter how much a company is using unfair business practices. That means you don't use their product, that doesn't mean you steal it to make a point.
As for the second paragraph, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE! You idiots don't actually read my posts. My whole argument is against you pirates and thieves trying to justify your behavior behind what you think to be your own personal fight against the music industry.
As for the third paragraph, I never said DRM has impacted a damn thing. However, it's very existence is because of pirates. You're right, the only thing DRM is doing "is making life more difficult for people who want to buy their music legally." Hence my entire point of calling out the music thieves out there.
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