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sdifox

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I'm not going to die, at worst I'll eat shit and get some real nasty road rash because outside of a helmet I don't have proper riding gear. Or maybe a broken bone or 2, but knock on wood because I've never broken anything. Besides would you even want the stuff of a guy who's buying a Klunker bike? You made it very clear how you feel about these bikes and made it sound like it's one of the poorest choices I could make for a bike. So I doubt you'd want my stuff because poor choices are right up my alley. And you are sensible and logical and other good quality things.

And all I'll be attempting is a skid out, and I probably won't even do more than once because I'm 200lbs and I'm sure they would destroy the tires in no time. And it's not I'ma go and do something crazy like try to jump the aqueduct thingy up the street. Well, that's unless the punk ass 12 year old bike gang kids call me out, then I'll have no choice but to have to show those lil fuckers how we did shit in the 80s! But I got a helmet at least, I doubt it's aqueduct jump rated, but it would be better than no protection.


There is a huge difference between doing that as a teenager and doing it as an older man. The survivability drops dramatically.
 
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QueBert

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There is a huge difference between doing that as a teenager and doing it as an older man. The survivability drops dramatically.

To quote Drago's coach in Rocky IV

If he dies, he dies. But no, I won't be jumping an aqueduct, hell I'll be lucky if I can even peddle fast enough to go beyond a strolling pace. My Evel Kevevel moment will be locking up the rear tire and doing a slide and calling it a day. And if I'm only able to get it up to 10mph it'll end up being a pretty weak ass and safe slide lol.


Good call on the helmet!

You know what they say, safety 1st, well in this case maybe safety second as I went with one for how it looked. Helmets tend to be big and ugly, this one ended up not looking much better so it was a fail on my part. I saw it and thought it looked nice so without thinking ordered it. And when I got it the Ford GT inspired racing stripes were whatever to me, and well it looks kinda douchy to be honest. But it's a helmet and provides protection I just look sorta tool'ish when I wear it. Which is no better than if I was wearing an ugly helmet.

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I'm going to end up ordering this E-Bike next week, just incase my old ass can't manage to peddle the stupid Klunker more than 8mph. IMHO this is a pretty neat looking fake motorcycle bike thing. But I think combined with my silly helmet it'll make me look like some sort of super hipster though :( 28MPH with a 30'ish mile range and should be fun to ride.

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WelshBloke

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You know what they say, safety 1st, well in this case maybe safety second as I went with one for how it looked. Helmets tend to be big and ugly, this one ended up not looking much better so it was a fail on my part. I saw it and thought it looked nice so without thinking ordered it. And when I got it the Ford GT inspired racing stripes were whatever to me, and well it looks kinda douchy to be honest. But it's a helmet and provides protection I just look sorta tool'ish when I wear it. Which is no better than if I was wearing an ugly helmet.

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Any helmet is a good helmet!
 

QueBert

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Just get a Penny-Farthings and you can outhip the hipsters.

My city doesn't really have any Hipsters for me to out Hipster. We do have a lot of tweakers though and I'd have to start injecting Meth to out tweak a tweaker and I'm good there...
 

Muadib

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You need to pay your local bike shop a visit, ASAP! They should have something similar, and should let you ride it.
 

Ken g6

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I'm going to end up ordering this E-Bike next week, just incase my old ass can't manage to peddle the stupid Klunker more than 8mph. IMHO this is a pretty neat looking fake motorcycle bike thing. But I think combined with my silly helmet it'll make me look like some sort of super hipster though :( 28MPH with a 30'ish mile range and should be fun to ride.
Know your e-bikes, and more importantly the regulations in your state and city surrounding them. That's a class 3, probably also a class 2. My state is cool with those, but my city won't let anything past a class 1 on bike paths. :rolleyes: And no e-bikes on trails.

Not that I've bought any e-bikes, yet. Still rocking my old 21-speed.
 

QueBert

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Know your e-bikes, and more importantly the regulations in your state and city surrounding them. That's a class 3, probably also a class 2. My state is cool with those, but my city won't let anything past a class 1 on bike paths. :rolleyes: And no e-bikes on trails.

Not that I've bought any e-bikes, yet. Still rocking my old 21-speed.

Class 1 is all that's technically legal here, but going 15mph on an electric bike is weaksauce. I see plenty of class 3's every day and I've never seen one get pulled over. With my luck it'll happen to me. But so be it lol. It's dumb that they limit you to class 1 speeds on electronic bikes but if I got a nice 21-speed I could go way faster than 15 without worrying about the police, makes no sense to me.
 
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Ken g6

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Class 1 is all that's technically legal here, but going 15mph on an electric bike is weaksauce. I see plenty of class 3's every day and I've never seen one get pulled over. With my luck it'll happen to me. But so be it lol. It's dumb that they limit you to class 1 speeds on electronic bikes but if I got a nice 21-speed I could go way faster than 15 without worrying about the police, makes no sense to me.
:confused: Class 1 limit is 20. But you have to pedal.

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I have a road near me that would seem decent for a class 3. It's marked 30mph speed limit. But everybody drives 35-45. :rolleyes:
 

NutBucket

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That's actually enforced where you bike? It certainly isn't here. I don't wear ear buds while biking so I can hear these guys come up behind me and zoom by.
 
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QueBert

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You need to pay your local bike shop a visit, ASAP! They should have something similar, and should let you ride it.

So I went to the local BMX shop to look at accessories and the owner let test ride a 27" BMX, which I figure is as close to what I ordered as I'll find. Outside of styling they're the same bike. Only did 4 laps around the parking lot so I can't say much. I loved it, but he commented that riding for 2 minutes is very different than riding for 30 minutes plus. He's a BMX guy and he loves single speed 27" bikes.

The test ride told me nothing except the bike was awesome for 120 seconds. He did comment that my knees might suffer for awhile at 1st. Overall I think a 2 minute ride was not a good idea, I should have asked if he rented them and spent an hour riding.
:confused: Class 1 limit is 20. But you have to pedal.

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I have a road near me that would seem decent for a class 3. It's marked 30mph speed limit. But everybody drives 35-45. :rolleyes:


Just get something faster, this looks like it would be an absolute blast to ride - Road Runner Tronic. Top speed of 65mph, I'd be terrified to go even 50 on something that small with 14" tires. But it would probably be awesome at 30-40mph. They also have a pro version that "only" goes 50mph. I'm pondering the regular version over the ebike I'm looking at, 35mph on a tiny scooter like that would probably feel so fast and be a ton of fun.
 
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BoomerD

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So I went to the local BMX shop to look at accessories and the owner let test ride a 27" BMX, which I figure is as close to what I ordered as I'll find. Outside of styling they're the same bike. Only did 4 laps around the parking lot so I can't say much. I loved it, but he commented that riding for 2 minutes is very different than riding for 30 minutes plus. He's a BMX guy and he loves single speed 27" bikes.

The test ride told me nothing except the bike was awesome for 120 seconds. He did comment that my knees might suffer for awhile at 1st. Overall I think a 2 minute ride was not a good idea, I should have asked if he rented them and spent an hour riding.



Just get something faster, this looks like it would be an absolute blast to ride - Road Runner Tronic. Top speed of 65mph, I'd be terrified to go even 50 on something that small with 14" tires. But it would probably be awesome at 30-40mph. They also have a pro version that "only" goes 50mph. I'm pondering the regular version over the ebike I'm looking at, 35mph on a tiny scooter like that would probably feel so fast and be a ton of fun.

Here in WA, those would require a motorcycle endorsement on your license. (any 2 or 3 wheeler that can go faster than 30 mph)
 
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Ken g6

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He did comment that my knees might suffer for awhile at 1st.
I've noticed that most e-bikes aren't built for really tall people. Ideally, to maximize pedaling power and minimize knee damage, when sitting on the bike with both feet touching the ground, you should be on tip-toe.

Just get something faster, this looks like it would be an absolute blast to ride - Road Runner Tronic. Top speed of 65mph, I'd be terrified to go even 50 on something that small with 14" tires. But it would probably be awesome at 30-40mph. They also have a pro version that "only" goes 50mph. I'm pondering the regular version over the ebike I'm looking at, 35mph on a tiny scooter like that would probably feel so fast and be a ton of fun.
Here in WA, those would require a motorcycle endorsement on your license. (any 2 or 3 wheeler that can go faster than 30 mph)
There are "e-bikes" that straddle that line. Example:


They ship electronically limited to class 2 or 3. So technically you're not buying something that requires a license, initially. :innocent:
 

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BoomerD

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I've noticed that most e-bikes aren't built for really tall people. Ideally, to maximize pedaling power and minimize knee damage, when sitting on the bike with both feet touching the ground, you should be on tip-toe.



There are "e-bikes" that straddle that line. Example:


They ship electronically limited to class 2 or 3. So technically you're not buying something that requires a license, initially. :innocent:
That would require a license...and probably be required to be licensed as well. Anything more than 750 watts is classified as a motor vehicle (moped), not a bike.


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Are 1000W Rated e-bikes Allowed?
In the U.S, most states prohibit the use of 1000W e-bikes in public spaces. Currently, only six U.S states: Kansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Oregon, and Virginia allow electric bikes with power ratings up to 1000 Watts on public roads and tracks. Federal law in the United States does not make it illegal to own a 1000W rated e-bike and other motor vehicle labels. Usually, the individual States describe e-mopeds at speeds achievable at 30 miles per hour and in the 1000W range. They may include a few other requirements, such as a driver's license, a helmet, and other safety clothing.
 

QueBert

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I don't know the laws for any state, but I don't think I need to know a 65mph electric scooter isn't going to be legal anywhere. I don't even think this one ships with a speed governer that has to be changed in a secret menu.

I guess it's really no different than my car which can go 170 but the speed limit's 70 at best.
 

MrSquished

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As others have said, fixies are really not that great, I mean at least if it was a single speed with regular brakes that might be better, but still not ideal. But this looks like a fixie, the pedals are always rotating, you can't just coast and having to pedal backwards to brake is for people that really know how to ride or are just naturals at it. also, even if it is totally flat, I wouldn't want a single speed.

I get wanting to simplify a bike by not having as many things to break and jam, but a fixie is not the way. Get a 1x bike. That means just one chainring in the front, so no front derailleur, but you will have a rear derailleur and multiple gears in the back - that works wonderful in most any area where you aren't riding a ton of big elevation gains a lot of the time. The front derailleurs are what are more finicky and drop chains more, the rear deraileur is very reliable.

Cancel that bike, save a little more money, and get a 1x bike - you won't need too much more money to get a 1x used if you find a good person, but you will need to double that price to get an entry level bike new.
 

quikah

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As others have said, fixies are really not that great, I mean at least if it was a single speed with regular brakes that might be better, but still not ideal. But this looks like a fixie, the pedals are always rotating, you can't just coast and having to pedal backwards to brake is for people that really know how to ride or are just naturals at it. also, even if it is totally flat, I wouldn't want a single speed.
ou won't need too much more money to get a 1x used if you find a good person, but you will need to double that price to get an entry level bike new.

This isn't a fixie, the description says it has a coaster brake.
 

QueBert

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Welp, things happen for a reason. And I just noticed an email from my Bank, they put a hold on the order I placed for the bike because it looked suspicious. They tried to call 3 or 4 times since Friday but I got a new phone and they didn't have the number.

Anyways, I took that as a sign, so long story short I told them it was me who placed the order but I changed my mind so just don't approve it. And I'm going to order the Ebike I posted. It goes faster, has real brakes, I can go full speed without peddling but can still peddle if I want. And it doesn't look like a tweaker mobile.

As quikah said the one I was looking at wasn't a fixie, so I believe I wouldn't have had to peddle 100% of the time I was moving. I read that about Fixies and that sounds absolutely terrible lol. But I could be wrong as I haven't done any research, but that's not how any BMX I ever had worked. I know Klunkers aren't BMX's but they're related or based off them or something.

Anyways I still might get the Klunker down the road but I'm going to look for somewhere I could rent one for a day and really be able to ride it to see how I like it.
 
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MrSquished

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This isn't a fixie, the description says it has a coaster brake.
I saw that, but considering the bike, I don't trust their copy. Braking with a fixie is essentially pedaling backwards. Who knows who wrote it and knows what a coaster is.