"Buy an SUV and you support terrorism" **UPDATE** 3 new Automobile Mag letters bash SUV bashers! :-)

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Whoa! You have an amphibious assault craft Evadman?

yes, it is pretty nifty.

Ok, so my grammer was convoluted to say the least. lay off me, I don't feel well

 

[SeaSerpent]

It rings a lot more true than "buy pot and you support terrorism"

I really get a kick out of this one...



I guess my neighbor is a terrorist

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: tweakmm It rings a lot more true than "buy pot and you support terrorism"

whatever my roomates IS300 gets the SAME gas milage as V8 4x4 Explorer does. with that kind of stupid logic everyone would be driving hybrid civics

So your roomate supports terrorism too, look at hayabusa's posts to see the logic. I do agree that the title is selective though, as buying any gas supports terrorism

That's exactly what I mean. Oil in any amount does that. Just a matter of degree. So should we park everything? No. What we do need to do is start seriously (and screw the free market people on this) researching and developing a way around this. If we had a "put a man on the moon" vision and the financial resources of this coming war, we could be done with it once and for all.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Also, the best selling SUV in America gets 15/21 city/highway. The Dodge Caravan (best selling minivan) gets 18/25.

Are they REALLY busting our balls over a few MPG?

A 30% increase in clock speed or UT2003 FPS would grab your attention, so why not a 30% difference in city MPG?

Also, maintaining our oil supply has already been declared a matter of National Security (as an excuse to drill in ANWR) so reducing our consumption should (in a shiny happy logical world) be given equal weight.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: gopunk
well they have a point... we do need to find alternative sources of energy to reduce our oil dependency.

The United States averaged total gross oil (crude and products) imports of an estimated 11.2 MMBD during the first nine months of 2002, representing around 57% of total U.S. oil demand. Around two-fifths of this oil came from OPEC nations, with Persian Gulf sources accounting for about one-fifth of total U.S. oil imports. Overall, the top suppliers of oil to the United States during the first nine months of 2002 were Canada (1.9 MMBD), Saudi Arabia (1.5 MMBD), Mexico (1.5 MMBD), and Venezuela (1.4 MMBD).

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usa.html

20% of our oil imports come from Persian Gulf countries. But how many of THOSE countries support terrorism? I think that this whole campaign is bullsh!t.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider Whoa! You have an amphibious assault craft Evadman?

yes, it is pretty nifty. Ok, so my grammer was convoluted to say the least. lay off me, I don't feel well

Ok, don't want to pick on the infirm- go rest and get well

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: NFS4
Also, the best selling SUV in America gets 15/21 city/highway. The Dodge Caravan (best selling minivan) gets 18/25.

Are they REALLY busting our balls over a few MPG?

A 30% increase in clock speed or UT2003 FPS would grab your attention, so why not a 30% difference in city MPG?

Also, maintaining our oil supply has already been declared a matter of National Security (as an excuse to drill in ANWR) so reducing our consumption should (in a shiny happy logical world) be given equal weight.

1) I don't play UT2003, it's mindless, stupid shooting
2) It's 20%, not 30%

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: NFS4
Also, the best selling SUV in America gets 15/21 city/highway. The Dodge Caravan (best selling minivan) gets 18/25.

Are they REALLY busting our balls over a few MPG?

A 30% increase in clock speed or UT2003 FPS would grab your attention, so why not a 30% difference in city MPG?

Also, maintaining our oil supply has already been declared a matter of National Security (as an excuse to drill in ANWR) so reducing our consumption should (in a shiny happy logical world) be given equal weight.

1) I don't play UT2003, it's mindless, stupid shooting
2) It's 20%, not 30%

oops! and d'oh! but a 20% increase in clockspeed or video card benches or vehicle MPG is still nothing to take lightly.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Didnt bother to read the article through, but if it says that

Burning large amounts of fossil fuels supports Middle East economies

and

SUV's burn large amounts of fuel

and

those economies who provide the fuel support terrorism, or their economy allows support to happen,

then what would be the logical conclusion?

Thats the desired relationship but its really more like this.

If you burn ANY amount of gas you can be considered a terrorist. Standing before a judge the conversation would be something like this.



Judge: "You all are guilty of terrorism, every one of you that mows your lawn, rides in your boat, or uses a vehicle that burns gas for anything."

Lady who traded in her SUV: "But Ma'am, I am much less of a terrorist than these other freaks. I only burned 3 gallons of gas on my way to work today while they burned a whole 4.8 gallons. Those HEATHENS!!!!!"

Judge: "Who cares, a terrorist is a terrorist. OFF WITH YOUR HEADS!!!!!"

 

[MikeMike]

HICE (Hydrogen Internal Combustion Engine) is the way of the future

not this gay fuel cell crap that still uses gas!

And HICE gives the same feel and (riceability) as all current internal combustion engines do!

So once the gov't gets its ass moving to getting and creating hydrogen and refuel stations we will be undermining all midle eastern economies and some other places too but thats life

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider<bt>What we do need to do is start seriously (and screw the free market people on this) researching and developing a way around this. If we had a "put a man on the moon" vision and the financial resources of this coming war, we could be done with it once and for all.

[/i]
I lost all hope of this happening in the near future when Bush was elected

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider Didnt bother to read the article through, but if it says that Burning large amounts of fossil fuels supports Middle East economies and SUV's burn large amounts of fuel and those economies who provide the fuel support terrorism, or their economy allows support to happen, then what would be the logical conclusion?

Thats the desired relationship but its really more like this. If you burn ANY amount of gas you can be considered a terrorist. Standing before a judge the conversation would be something like this. Judge: "You all are guilty of terrorism, every one of you that mows your lawn, rides in your boat, or uses a vehicle that burns gas for anything." Lady who traded in her SUV: "But Ma'am, I am much less of a terrorist than these other freaks. I only burned 3 gallons of gas on my way to work today while they burned a whole 4.8 gallons. Those HEATHENS!!!!!" Judge: "Who cares, a terrorist is a terrorist. OFF WITH YOUR HEADS!!!!!"

If you read my later posts, I do agree to the extent that burning oil supports terrorism. Since the free market will not just provide fuel from select countries ( imagine the posts here if gas went to 3 dollars a gallon or so) We are a country supporting terrorism. Wonder if this ever occured to the administration?

 

[SuperTool]

Yes, when you buy gas, regardless how much, part of your money goes to countries like Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia uses that money to spread the word of wahabbism, whose followers include Bin-Laden. This money also allowes Saudis and others to make "donations" to certain groups, and eventually this money gets into hands of terrorists who use it to buy weapons and train.
Now that doesn't make you a terrorist any more than buying Chinese goods makes you a communist sympathiser. But you are indirectly supporting terrorism, and should be aware of it. Now if someone would make the same connection between pot and terrorism I would appreciate it. The administration was just asking for this when they came out with these lame ads.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Yes, when you buy gas, regardless how much, part of your money goes to countries like Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia uses that money to spread the word of wahabbism, whose followers include Bin-Laden. This money also allowes Saudis and others to make "donations" to certain groups, and eventually this money gets into hands of terrorists who use it to buy weapons and train. Now that doesn't make you a terrorist any more than buying Chinese goods makes you a communist sympathiser. But you are indirectly supporting terrorism, and should be aware of it. Now if someone would make the same connection between pot and terrorism I would appreciate it. The administration was just asking for this when they came out with these lame ads.

Agreed.

 

[MinorityReport]

Originally posted by: conjur
heh...reminds me of something a friend of mine sent me in an email today. He wants to start a rumor that all of those offshore programming companies sponsor terrorism...along with H-1B visa holders. He and I are both having difficulty finding work in the last few months. And, in my case, at least one job was filled by someone with an H-1B over me. :disgust:

Are you in the IT industry ?

Cause worse is about to come, specially if you from NY/NJ/CT/PA area.

300,000 jobs to be lost in next few years

And do not blame the H1B visa holders, blame the American companies who employ them, not you with citizenship and loyality.

It is foolish to blame the immigrant H1B holder when your OWN lovely patriotic republican ass licking companies are employing them.

Blame capitalism for it ..


And best of luck to you and your friend in findinng a good job

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Yes, when you buy gas, regardless how much, part of your money goes to countries like Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia uses that money to spread the word of wahabbism, whose followers include Bin-Laden. This money also allowes Saudis and others to make "donations" to certain groups, and eventually this money gets into hands of terrorists who use it to buy weapons and train.
Now that doesn't make you a terrorist any more than buying Chinese goods makes you a communist sympathiser. But you are indirectly supporting terrorism, and should be aware of it. Now if someone would make the same connection between pot and terrorism I would appreciate it. The administration was just asking for this when they came out with these lame ads.

Well then EVERYONE who drives a car support terrorism, plain and simple! Time for a new ad campaign!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider<bt>What we do need to do is start seriously (and screw the free market people on this) researching and developing a way around this. If we had a "put a man on the moon" vision and the financial resources of this coming war, we could be done with it once and for all.

[/i]
I lost all hope of this happening in the near future when Bush was elected

hydrogen has the unfortunate tendancy to... explode... dramatically...

 

[silent tone]

 

[dethman]

i hate SUVs. so i'm all for it.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Yes, when you buy gas, regardless how much, part of your money goes to countries like Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia uses that money to spread the word of wahabbism, whose followers include Bin-Laden. This money also allowes Saudis and others to make "donations" to certain groups, and eventually this money gets into hands of terrorists who use it to buy weapons and train.
Now that doesn't make you a terrorist any more than buying Chinese goods makes you a communist sympathiser. But you are indirectly supporting terrorism, and should be aware of it. Now if someone would make the same connection between pot and terrorism I would appreciate it. The administration was just asking for this when they came out with these lame ads.

Well then EVERYONE who drives a car support terrorism, plain and simple! Time for a new ad campaign!

That's right. I wouldn't just pick on SUV's. But the more gas you use, the more you contribute to this problem. It is something to be aware of.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Yes, when you buy gas, regardless how much, part of your money goes to countries like Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia uses that money to spread the word of wahabbism, whose followers include Bin-Laden. This money also allowes Saudis and others to make "donations" to certain groups, and eventually this money gets into hands of terrorists who use it to buy weapons and train.
Now that doesn't make you a terrorist any more than buying Chinese goods makes you a communist sympathiser. But you are indirectly supporting terrorism, and should be aware of it. Now if someone would make the same connection between pot and terrorism I would appreciate it. The administration was just asking for this when they came out with these lame ads.

Well then EVERYONE who drives a car support terrorism, plain and simple! Time for a new ad campaign!

That's right. I wouldn't just pick on SUV's. But the more gas you use, the more you contribute to this problem. It is something to be aware of.

Yeah, they are just picking on SUV's to get a rise

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Huffington, who swapped her Lincoln Navigator for a Toyota Prius hybrid, suggests it is downright unpatriotic to tool around in an SUV while the United States is fighting global terrorism.

Hmm....so by her own logic, she supported terrorism. I mean after all, those 9-11 hijackers wouldn't have gotten the funding to do the things they did to the WTC unless she hadn't driven a Navigator.

What an idiot

 

[PistachioByAzul]

You mean they don't burn a lot of gas?

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Well then EVERYONE who drives a car support terrorism, plain and simple! Time for a new ad campaign!

SUVs represent the farthest end of reckless consumerism, that's why.

The question is, do you prefer concrete to trees and grass?

 

[Kerouactivist]

That is awesome I wanna see it!!!!