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BUY A UPS!!!!

- new place; unknown electrical system
-saw a good deal for a UPS and bought one just in case since my old one was broken
-fast forward to this weekend when sh!t started frying all over the house...

... except what was plugged into the UPS, which turned out to be all my $$$.

Best $64 I ever spent.


<--lost one of his Access Points🙁
 
Many moons ago I had a thunderstorm take out a DSL Modem and a Switch. Now.... UPS on almost everything that's worth any money 😛
 
I have my PC and its peripherals on UPS devices, and I refuse to plug them in anywhere without a UPS protecting them. Depending on where I'm going, sometimes I haul around a UPS for my laptop, too.
 
Why not just use a surge protector for most things? I can understand a UPS for a computer you are working on, and don't want a power outage to reek havoc...
 
Amen to the UPS. I use them always and have had no issues.
We've had a bad run here in St Louis on storms last couple years.
I've replaced quite a few power supplies and motherboards from people getting hit either by lightning or the surge when another section near them goes down.
I know of at least 3 situations where the 3 pronged plug literally burnt up at the receptacle locally as well.

For Non commercial , APC at any local store is more than sufficient.
Check them periodically and you can get great deals on returns.
APC also redistributes them if you check their website.
For some reason people buy them and return them with buyers remorse regularly.
2 of the 3 I'm using for our computers etc were gotten that way for a steal.
 
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Why not just use a surge protector for most things? I can understand a UPS for a computer you are working on, and don't want a power outage to reek havoc...

Line conditioning. Surges are not the only things that take out electronics.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Why not just use a surge protector for most things? I can understand a UPS for a computer you are working on, and don't want a power outage to reek havoc...

Line conditioning. Surges are not the only things that take out electronics.

Don't forget bulbs in DLPs.

Oh wait, this is ATOT and everybody has 52" LCDs.
 
Bought one years ago when I got my 1st computer, but never after that. Had no use for it. Just surge protector.
 
I thought the principal function of a UPS was to prevent outages. Why is everyone talking about them like they're line conditioners? I know some accomplish this as well, but a good line conditioner is much more expensive I think.
 
Originally posted by: cherrytwist
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Why not just use a surge protector for most things? I can understand a UPS for a computer you are working on, and don't want a power outage to reek havoc...

Line conditioning. Surges are not the only things that take out electronics.

Don't forget bulbs in DLPs.

Oh wait, this is ATOT and everybody has 52" LCDs.

Close 🙂
 
Your UPS may not be good for saving your eq. from the next surge now. Some will have a light on them....some just don't tell you.
 
Originally posted by: Descartes
I thought the principal function of a UPS was to prevent outages. Why is everyone talking about them like they're line conditioners? I know some accomplish this as well, but a good line conditioner is much more expensive I think.

A consumer line condition isn't really that expensive.. A good UPS with voltage regulation (which not every UPS has) will perform just about as well as a dedicated (consumer) line conditioner.
 
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Why not just use a surge protector for most things? I can understand a UPS for a computer you are working on, and don't want a power outage to reek havoc...

Voltage spikes are only one form of damaging fault. How often these occur depends on your location, frequency of lightning strikes, type of power drop (overhead or underground), etc. I've never seen a damaging power spike either at home, school or work. But if you have overhead power service, or you have pole mounted transformers near by, then you are at higher risk of spike due to lightning.

Under and over-voltage faults are other causes of equipment failure.

Over voltage faults are uncommon, they are typically caused by a serious short circuit in the opposite phase (in a split phase drop), or an adjacent phase (in a 3 phase service, or where you receive a single phase from a 3 phase transformer). Even then, the degree of overvoltage is likely to be modest and should be within most equipment's tolerance unless the fault is very severe (e.g. an industrial customer supplied from the same transformer) or very close (e.g. you short your 70 A tankless water heater supply to neutral).

Undervoltage is more common, and has many causes, usually related to overload, poor connections, or a power grid fault. Although it sounds counter intuitive, electronic power supplies operate at considerably higher stress under low voltage conditions (this is because they automatically increase their current draw as voltage drops, to ensure a constant output). This is particularly the case with 'universal PSUs' or those with active PFC. Brownouts that drop voltage to 80V can cause overheating and serious damage to these PSUs. Other equipment that may be damaged by brownouts include compressors (e.g. fridges, AC, air compressors).

If you want to protect against over and undervoltage, then a surge protector is unlikely to help. There may be some benefit with over voltage situations, but surge protectors are not designed to protect against this, and will likely burn out, and/or trip a breaker.

The advantage of a UPS is that it includes modest surge protection while also protecting against under and overvoltage. Even the cheapest will do this, although they will drop to battery mode in both of these conditions. More fancy 'line interactive' ones will adjust the mains voltage as required (without resorting to battery mode during fault conditions).
 
Originally posted by: EGGO
$64? How much does that computer consume? Tell me where you got this good deal.

$69@ microcenter


A quick test gave me about 30min for my mac mini, all connected peripherals including two external HDs, and a p4 NAS server 😀

As others mentioned, it doesn't really do line conditioning at this price so what ends up happening is that it'll cut to battery as other mentioned. Definitely a good compromise at this price point.


Although I am out $100 (cost of the AP), the amount of electronics it saved had me grinning like some type of fool all day😛

<--LUCKY SOB😎
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Your UPS may not be good for saving your eq. from the next surge now. Some will have a light on them....some just don't tell you.

Yeah, it would be advisible to have that UPS replaced. While it most likely still works as a battery backup, I would use it on some lower wattage or cheaper devices.
 
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