they'll be declining soon. the old folks are living too long and the younger generation otaku/fanboys are unable to find partners to procreate with. 
Um maybe I'm just an idiot but isn't those speeds 50 megabits/s and 3 megabits/s? I'm the first to notice but I don't think they get 50mb/s downloads... I forgot how the conversion goes, it involves an 8 and 1024 in some way doesn't it? I think it'd work out to like 6-7mb/s download.
But I am in no way complaining, I believe I was @ 512kbps down/128kbps up for a while with my cable modem, just recently they unlocked the pipe and I think it's closer to ~3mbps/128kbps now. Now those people in Japan must be the true LPBs!
I think it'd work out to like 6-7mb/s download. But I am in no way complaining, I believe I was @ 512kbps down/128kbps up for a while with my cable modem, just recently they unlocked the pipe and I think it's closer to ~3mbps/128kbps now. Now those people in Japan must be the true LPBs!
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not much for what they are getting. the government created a high speed network or something a while ago..and then now its just letting companies use that excess bandwidth from what i remember. their speeds are insane. the level of adoption is also very high for this super high speed internet. they are already starting to get things like tv on demand etc we can only dream of cuz of our relatively pathetic speeds. true impact of widespread high speed internet on society is more noticable there probably. wired magazine had an article on it a while back. stupid bastards at sbc are like over a year late with my speed upgrade.. still 128kbs upload.thats pathetic.
Korean Housewives Want Speedy Net
By Karlin Lillington | Also by this reporter Page 1 of 1
02:00 AM Jan. 01, 2003 PT
South Korea is busy proving that the discredited telecommunications industry mantra, "Build it and they will come," might have life in it yet.
With a population of 48 million, South Korea has a formidable position as the world's broadband Internet leader, far outstripping the United States and Europe. As of last month, 10 million Koreans -- which equates to 70 percent of households -- had home broadband connections supplying high-speed Internet access, said Jin-wook Son, managing director of Korea Telecom UK.
Most pay about $33 monthly for an 8 megabit-per-second connection. Wireless access, which allows subscribers to access numerous public Wi-Fi networks, costs an extra $8.50 a month.
Koreans spend an average of 16 hours a week on the Internet -- compared to 10 hours for Americans and four hours for the British -- with housewives who shop, trade shares, take classes and get information online generating some 45 percent of all Internet traffic, Son said. Korea also has over 20,000 Internet cafes, which the Koreans call "PC baangs" (literally, "PC rooms").
The PC baangs, which 65 percent of users visit to play games, "created a base for a commercial market for games and content," Son said.
Online share trading is also a favorite Korean pastime, with 75 percent of all trades done online. A fourth of the population uses online banking services. Even the online advertising market is booming -- "a new cash cow," said Son.
Such broadband vitality didn't come out of nowhere. The Korean government sank over $1.5 billion into helping create the world's most advanced telecommunications network, according to a report from Britain's Brunel University.
The government also offered a range of "soft loans" -- very low-interest loans -- to operators ready to build out infrastructure.
As a result, over 90 percent of South Koreans can access a broadband connection because they live within four kilometers (about 2.5 miles) of a broadband-enabled local telephone exchange. Eighty percent use DSL, and 20 percent use cable modems.
Cheap broadband has changed where Koreans go for content, creating a Korean e-commerce boom.
"Initially Internet traffic went overseas, 98 percent of it," Son said. "There was no Korean content. But this has changed completely. Domestic traffic is now about 85 percent, and overseas, 15 percent. However, this does not mean that overseas traffic has decreased. Instead, domestic traffic has increased."
Son pointed to a range of independent analyst figures: In Korea, the value of business-to-business e-commerce was $84 billion in 2001, business-to-consumer was worth $2 billion, and business-to-government transactions were a $5.4 billion market.
Yet like many incumbent operators, Korea Telecom initially felt there wasn't a sufficiently strong home broadband business model. The company tested DSL access with 1,500 users in 1997, but decided it would not get enough subscribers willing to pay the proposed $70 monthly fee.
Only when the No. 2 operator, Hanaro started offering DSL at $38 a month in 1998 -- quickly gaining 200,000 subscribers -- did Korea Telecom reconsider. It now has 4.5 million DSL subscribers.
Gartner telecommunications analyst Susan Richardson said Korea's broadband success story is partly due to elements specific to the Korean market: high-density living, state-controlled local exchanges and "competition that was quite hearty to begin with." In particular, "the government really decided to seed broadband rollout as an economic and social benefit for Korea," she said.
Countries coping with stalled broadband markets could learn from Korea's approach to pricing and competition, she said, though she doubts Western governments would be willing to match Korea's financial investment.
"So many people are trying to see first what the killer application will be for broadband. In our experience, broadband itself is the killer application," Son said.
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Seoul of a New Machine
South Korea shows us the transformative power of broadband.
By J. Bradford DeLong
For the past century, people around the world have looked to the United States to see what their own futures will be like. The US has led one technological and sociological change after the next. Except where broadband is concerned. In this respect, if we want to see the future, we need to look across the Pacific.
Counting both DSL and cable modems, 15 percent of American households have broadband connections. This take-up is dwarfed by that of South Korea, where more than two-thirds of households have high-speed connections. Moreover, throughput there is better: from 4 to 64 times as much bandwidth as I seem to get from Comcast. And about half of South Korea's 50 million people surf the Web regularly, sometimes from their cell phones. (Some 23 million of the country's 30 million cell phones are Internet enabled.) Much has been made in the press about the cultural differences between South Koreans and Americans to explain this vast gap in broadband penetration. But such explanations fail to grasp the significance of what's really happening.
Widespread broadband access in South Korea - and the consequent high-bandwidth applications - means that the Internet has become an accepted mode of social interaction: a true "information superhighway," as politicians used to love to say. This spring, users there spent about 62 hours a month online, roughly 14 hours more than users did in America, where dialup access and slow downloads are still prevalent. What's more, 16 percent of South Korea's GDP originates in the IT industries, compared with 8 percent in the US.
The shape of the future, however, depends not just on infrastructure but on what will come from it. How are South Koreans using their broadband Internet (aside from oft-cited multiplayer online games)? What do these uses show us about the future?
First, they point to a shift in the way citizens interact with government, from one of long lines and grouchy clerks to one of point-and-click. South Korean businesses have saved big bucks by giving customers and employees direct, user-friendly access to their databases. They've cut out whole categories of work in which people filled-out forms by hand, then others typed the information into databases. These same efficiencies are attainable in citizens' dealings with their governments - if enough of the population has high-speed access to justify creating such streamlined, Web-based systems. In Korea, enough people do.
Also, watch as government elections are transformed. South Korea's presidential campaign last fall featured, in the eyes of some, the first true Internet race. As The Globe and Mail reported, Roh Moo-hyun's campaign staff pressed a few computer keys, sending text messages to the cell phones of 800,000 people. Each day, half a million people visited his Web site, and some 7,000 voters sent him email. Call it cyberspace campaigning - a way to bring to every voter a close simulacrum of personal contact with a candidate and his staff. In the US, such access is still reserved for insiders and attendees of major fundraisers.
On the entertainment front, South Koreans are using broadband for video-on-demand. Yes, video-on-demand. Internet service there is of high enough quality for people to download movies instead of watching only scheduled programming. Last year, telco KT began offering on-demand viewing and special hardware to connect customers' PCs to their TVs. And watching what you want when you want to will be a very different social experience than viewing what happens to be on. Most interesting of all is how broadband may change South Korean society.
South Korea's experience so far with broadband access and high-bandwidth applications reminds us that they are called information technologies for good reason. Koreans eliminate wasted time in acquiring information and seem to communicate more easily. Their broadband Internet lets people play with and talk to each other without journeying to central locations, meshing schedules, or playing interminable games of telephone tag. There is also the obvious convenience of shopping online.
What difference does it all make? My best guess (based on scattered anecdotes about usage patterns) is that South Koreans, with all their time online, are saving themselves perhaps as many as five hours a month by finding what they want to buy and learn about more easily. They are discovering interesting circles of friends and conversation partners. They are freeing themselves from the tyranny of scheduled TV programming. And they are becoming a smarter, tighter, and more knowledgeable society.
Contact J. Bradford DeLong at www.j-bradford-delong.net.http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/view.html?pg=5
South Korea shows us the transformative power of broadband.
By J. Bradford DeLong
For the past century, people around the world have looked to the United States to see what their own futures will be like. The US has led one technological and sociological change after the next. Except where broadband is concerned. In this respect, if we want to see the future, we need to look across the Pacific.
Counting both DSL and cable modems, 15 percent of American households have broadband connections. This take-up is dwarfed by that of South Korea, where more than two-thirds of households have high-speed connections. Moreover, throughput there is better: from 4 to 64 times as much bandwidth as I seem to get from Comcast. And about half of South Korea's 50 million people surf the Web regularly, sometimes from their cell phones. (Some 23 million of the country's 30 million cell phones are Internet enabled.) Much has been made in the press about the cultural differences between South Koreans and Americans to explain this vast gap in broadband penetration. But such explanations fail to grasp the significance of what's really happening.
Widespread broadband access in South Korea - and the consequent high-bandwidth applications - means that the Internet has become an accepted mode of social interaction: a true "information superhighway," as politicians used to love to say. This spring, users there spent about 62 hours a month online, roughly 14 hours more than users did in America, where dialup access and slow downloads are still prevalent. What's more, 16 percent of South Korea's GDP originates in the IT industries, compared with 8 percent in the US.
The shape of the future, however, depends not just on infrastructure but on what will come from it. How are South Koreans using their broadband Internet (aside from oft-cited multiplayer online games)? What do these uses show us about the future?
First, they point to a shift in the way citizens interact with government, from one of long lines and grouchy clerks to one of point-and-click. South Korean businesses have saved big bucks by giving customers and employees direct, user-friendly access to their databases. They've cut out whole categories of work in which people filled-out forms by hand, then others typed the information into databases. These same efficiencies are attainable in citizens' dealings with their governments - if enough of the population has high-speed access to justify creating such streamlined, Web-based systems. In Korea, enough people do.
Also, watch as government elections are transformed. South Korea's presidential campaign last fall featured, in the eyes of some, the first true Internet race. As The Globe and Mail reported, Roh Moo-hyun's campaign staff pressed a few computer keys, sending text messages to the cell phones of 800,000 people. Each day, half a million people visited his Web site, and some 7,000 voters sent him email. Call it cyberspace campaigning - a way to bring to every voter a close simulacrum of personal contact with a candidate and his staff. In the US, such access is still reserved for insiders and attendees of major fundraisers.
On the entertainment front, South Koreans are using broadband for video-on-demand. Yes, video-on-demand. Internet service there is of high enough quality for people to download movies instead of watching only scheduled programming. Last year, telco KT began offering on-demand viewing and special hardware to connect customers' PCs to their TVs. And watching what you want when you want to will be a very different social experience than viewing what happens to be on. Most interesting of all is how broadband may change South Korean society.
South Korea's experience so far with broadband access and high-bandwidth applications reminds us that they are called information technologies for good reason. Koreans eliminate wasted time in acquiring information and seem to communicate more easily. Their broadband Internet lets people play with and talk to each other without journeying to central locations, meshing schedules, or playing interminable games of telephone tag. There is also the obvious convenience of shopping online.
What difference does it all make? My best guess (based on scattered anecdotes about usage patterns) is that South Koreans, with all their time online, are saving themselves perhaps as many as five hours a month by finding what they want to buy and learn about more easily. They are discovering interesting circles of friends and conversation partners. They are freeing themselves from the tyranny of scheduled TV programming. And they are becoming a smarter, tighter, and more knowledgeable society.
Contact J. Bradford DeLong at www.j-bradford-delong.net.http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/view.html?pg=5
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and just one more. the wired magazine article did have a lot more then appears on the website though.
Technology
Korea's Weird Wired World
Benjamin Fulford, 07.21.03
Strange things happen when an entire country is hooked on high-speed Internet.
Dear Abby has yet to receive a letter on this one. Last September Han Sang, a 14-year-old boy in Seoul, stole $35 from his parents to buy sunglasses and other accessories. The petty thievery was bad enough, but what really irked his dad, Kim Sung Bae, was that none of the stuff he bought was real. They were for the animated character, or avatar, the boy used as a stand-in for himself on the Internet. Han was spending four hours each night hanging out online with his friends and wanted his virtual stand-in to look as cool as possible.
Kim punished his son with an Internet curfew: No more surfing after midnight. Every Sunday afternoon would be Internet-free family time, and Han Sang would have to watch TV with his parents for a few hours a week. His parents, in return, promised to visit Han's virtual worlds with him.
South Korea has gone gaga over broadband. This nation of 46 million people, packed into an area smaller than Virginia, has quickly become the world's most wired nation. Politics, entertainment, sex, mass media, crime and commerce are being reshaped by a population as online as it is offline. Some 11 million homes, or 70% of the total, have broadband accounts, and at peak times just about all of those homes are online. Nearly two-thirds of Korean mobile phone users have shifted to so-called third-generation handsets that offer speeds up to ten times that of mobiles in the U.S. Here, residential broadband isn't expected to enter 50% of homes until late 2004.
Ubiquitous, fast and cheap access to the Internet has upended Korean society in dramatically unexpected ways. Depending on whom you ask, its experience should serve as either a warning or a triumph for the rest of a world racing to deliver broadband to the masses. Korean marriages are fraying as spouses cheat on each other through video chat. Psychiatrists are swamped with patients coming in for cures to online addiction. One man even died last year from a heart attack brought on by the stress of spending days waging war in an Internet game.
Koreans realized they had entered a new era after the last presidential elections. By 11 a.m. on Dec. 19, exit poll results showed that the iconoclastic Roh Moo Hyun, 56, a 2-to-1 favorite among youth, was losing the election. His supporters hit the chat rooms to drum up support. Within minutes more than 800,000 e-mails were sent to mobiles to urge supporters to go out and vote. Traditionally apathetic young voters surged to the polls and, by 2 p.m., Roh took the lead and went on to win the election. A man with little support from either the mainstream media or the nation's conglomerates sashayed into office on an Internet on-ramp. The traditional Confucian order had been flipped upside down, and a symbolic transfer of power from elders to youth took place.
Thousands of giant online fantasy worlds are populated by real people interacting virtually, often representing themselves with animated characters in a blend of game play and chat. One online fantasy game, Lineage, features 50 worlds, each so big it takes six hours just to walk from one end to the other. At times 320,000 or more people posing as spiders, beautiful women, mighty warriors or half-snake/half-humans communicate by voice, by typing, with hand signs and by fighting, running away and even embracing.
In the U.S. the tech sector looks to broadband to rescue it from a slump. Korea makes the prospect plausible. A Korean firm called NCSoft has already become the world's largest online gaming network, with 3.2 million subscribers paying $25 per month. It has the potential to beat both Microsoft's Xbox Live and Sony's broadband PlayStation networks in the race to dominate online gaming. Last year NCSoft bought ArenaNet, a U.S. gaming company founded by the creators of the hit multiplayer games Warcraft, Starcraft and Diablo. The Korean game networks already have a head start next door in China. A new Korean game called Fortress has 35 million players there.
Hanaro, the country's top seller of broadband access, and its nemesis, Korea Telecom, are racing to build the world's most advanced wireless Internet infrastructure. Hanaro may soon approve a $1.2 billion cash infusion from a group of investors led by U.S. insurer AIG. If the deal goes through, it would be Korea's largest foreign investment to date. The idea is to have base stations everywhere beaming Net connections at 2.4 megabits per second--faster than top cable modem speeds--so that people can be connected no matter if they are in the street, in a car or at a restaurant. People could use the same e-mail and network identity everywhere, on landlines or over the air.
Firms like Samsung and LG are inventing new types of handheld devices with voice-recognition and big screens to help people defend their virtual castles no matter where they are. At least 80 foreign companies have set up research sites in Korea to tap into this gigantic broadband laboratory. Even though Microsoft gets only $200 million in yearly revenue from Korea, it has just invested $500 million in Korea Telecom, in part to test plans for ubiquitous computing. Microsoft got a glimpse of this concept two years ago, when a small Korean Internet site began to show a movie clip of a famous actress having sex with her manager. The site was overwhelmed as, within three days, the entire country accessed it by various means. http://www.forbes.com/technology/free_forbes/2003/0721/092.html?partner=newscom
Technology
Korea's Weird Wired World
Benjamin Fulford, 07.21.03
Strange things happen when an entire country is hooked on high-speed Internet.
Dear Abby has yet to receive a letter on this one. Last September Han Sang, a 14-year-old boy in Seoul, stole $35 from his parents to buy sunglasses and other accessories. The petty thievery was bad enough, but what really irked his dad, Kim Sung Bae, was that none of the stuff he bought was real. They were for the animated character, or avatar, the boy used as a stand-in for himself on the Internet. Han was spending four hours each night hanging out online with his friends and wanted his virtual stand-in to look as cool as possible.
Kim punished his son with an Internet curfew: No more surfing after midnight. Every Sunday afternoon would be Internet-free family time, and Han Sang would have to watch TV with his parents for a few hours a week. His parents, in return, promised to visit Han's virtual worlds with him.
South Korea has gone gaga over broadband. This nation of 46 million people, packed into an area smaller than Virginia, has quickly become the world's most wired nation. Politics, entertainment, sex, mass media, crime and commerce are being reshaped by a population as online as it is offline. Some 11 million homes, or 70% of the total, have broadband accounts, and at peak times just about all of those homes are online. Nearly two-thirds of Korean mobile phone users have shifted to so-called third-generation handsets that offer speeds up to ten times that of mobiles in the U.S. Here, residential broadband isn't expected to enter 50% of homes until late 2004.
Ubiquitous, fast and cheap access to the Internet has upended Korean society in dramatically unexpected ways. Depending on whom you ask, its experience should serve as either a warning or a triumph for the rest of a world racing to deliver broadband to the masses. Korean marriages are fraying as spouses cheat on each other through video chat. Psychiatrists are swamped with patients coming in for cures to online addiction. One man even died last year from a heart attack brought on by the stress of spending days waging war in an Internet game.
Koreans realized they had entered a new era after the last presidential elections. By 11 a.m. on Dec. 19, exit poll results showed that the iconoclastic Roh Moo Hyun, 56, a 2-to-1 favorite among youth, was losing the election. His supporters hit the chat rooms to drum up support. Within minutes more than 800,000 e-mails were sent to mobiles to urge supporters to go out and vote. Traditionally apathetic young voters surged to the polls and, by 2 p.m., Roh took the lead and went on to win the election. A man with little support from either the mainstream media or the nation's conglomerates sashayed into office on an Internet on-ramp. The traditional Confucian order had been flipped upside down, and a symbolic transfer of power from elders to youth took place.
Thousands of giant online fantasy worlds are populated by real people interacting virtually, often representing themselves with animated characters in a blend of game play and chat. One online fantasy game, Lineage, features 50 worlds, each so big it takes six hours just to walk from one end to the other. At times 320,000 or more people posing as spiders, beautiful women, mighty warriors or half-snake/half-humans communicate by voice, by typing, with hand signs and by fighting, running away and even embracing.
In the U.S. the tech sector looks to broadband to rescue it from a slump. Korea makes the prospect plausible. A Korean firm called NCSoft has already become the world's largest online gaming network, with 3.2 million subscribers paying $25 per month. It has the potential to beat both Microsoft's Xbox Live and Sony's broadband PlayStation networks in the race to dominate online gaming. Last year NCSoft bought ArenaNet, a U.S. gaming company founded by the creators of the hit multiplayer games Warcraft, Starcraft and Diablo. The Korean game networks already have a head start next door in China. A new Korean game called Fortress has 35 million players there.
Hanaro, the country's top seller of broadband access, and its nemesis, Korea Telecom, are racing to build the world's most advanced wireless Internet infrastructure. Hanaro may soon approve a $1.2 billion cash infusion from a group of investors led by U.S. insurer AIG. If the deal goes through, it would be Korea's largest foreign investment to date. The idea is to have base stations everywhere beaming Net connections at 2.4 megabits per second--faster than top cable modem speeds--so that people can be connected no matter if they are in the street, in a car or at a restaurant. People could use the same e-mail and network identity everywhere, on landlines or over the air.
Firms like Samsung and LG are inventing new types of handheld devices with voice-recognition and big screens to help people defend their virtual castles no matter where they are. At least 80 foreign companies have set up research sites in Korea to tap into this gigantic broadband laboratory. Even though Microsoft gets only $200 million in yearly revenue from Korea, it has just invested $500 million in Korea Telecom, in part to test plans for ubiquitous computing. Microsoft got a glimpse of this concept two years ago, when a small Korean Internet site began to show a movie clip of a famous actress having sex with her manager. The site was overwhelmed as, within three days, the entire country accessed it by various means. http://www.forbes.com/technology/free_forbes/2003/0721/092.html?partner=newscom
That's why they have better technology, we gave it to them because we feel bad about roasting them alive.
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**clears throat**
inspite of the USA altering history to suit itself, the telephone was invented in Canada by Alexander Graham Bell.
And yes you have an outdated infrastructure that is years behind other countries: like Canada. Our broadband (cable) infrastructure was laid down in the early 80's.
He(Bell) became a U.S. citizen, but he died in Canada at the age of 75.
Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland.
The first telephone company, Bell Telephone Company, was founded on July 9, 1877(in the United States.
March 7, 1876(In the US) first transmission happened.
You were saying?
Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland.
The first telephone company, Bell Telephone Company, was founded on July 9, 1877(in the United States.
March 7, 1876(In the US) first transmission happened.
You were saying?
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elephone History Part 1 -- to 1830
"We picture inventors as heroes with the genius to recognize and solve a society's problems. In reality, the greatest inventors have been tinkerers who loved tinkering for its own sake and who then had to figure out what, if anything, their devices might be good for." Jared Diamond
I. Introduction
On March 10, 1876, in Boston, Massachusetts, Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone.
http://www.privateline.com/TelephoneHistory/History1.htm
more pwnage i guess someone should reconsider whom is actually altering history how the hell do u get that wrong anyways, why do you think there are the baby bells in the us.
"We picture inventors as heroes with the genius to recognize and solve a society's problems. In reality, the greatest inventors have been tinkerers who loved tinkering for its own sake and who then had to figure out what, if anything, their devices might be good for." Jared Diamond
I. Introduction
On March 10, 1876, in Boston, Massachusetts, Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone.
http://www.privateline.com/TelephoneHistory/History1.htm
more pwnage
i guess someone should reconsider whom is actually altering history how the hell do u get that wrong anyways, why do you think there are the baby bells in the us.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
elephone History Part 1 -- to 1830
"We picture inventors as heroes with the genius to recognize and solve a society's problems. In reality, the greatest inventors have been tinkerers who loved tinkering for its own sake and who then had to figure out what, if anything, their devices might be good for." Jared Diamond
I. Introduction
On March 10, 1876, in Boston, Massachusetts, Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone.
http://www.privateline.com/TelephoneHistory/History1.htm
more pwnage
Even though he was born in Scotland, was a US citizen, got his first patent in the US, and invented the phone in the US... Canada tries to claim him.
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
elephone History Part 1 -- to 1830
"We picture inventors as heroes with the genius to recognize and solve a society's problems. In reality, the greatest inventors have been tinkerers who loved tinkering for its own sake and who then had to figure out what, if anything, their devices might be good for." Jared Diamond
I. Introduction
On March 10, 1876, in Boston, Massachusetts, Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone.
http://www.privateline.com/TelephoneHistory/History1.htm
more pwnage
July 26, 1874 In Brantford tells father of method to transmit sound by wire.
September 1875 Writes patent specifications in Brantford
You were saying?
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you can't even provide a link? just look at the bolded print above your post. what does it say quite literally that you do not understand? i could come up with an idea for a fusion reactor that runs out of my @ss. but it doesn't matter until its recognized by the patent office as something that is actually legitimate.
not to mention your assertion that your country had the first telephone network is just plain false. just look a few posts above
not to mention your assertion that your country had the first telephone network is just plain false. just look a few posts above
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I never said we had a telephone network. Maybe I am wrong. It appears we did have the first telephone network.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you can't even provide a link? just look at the bolded print above your post. what does it say quite literally that you do not understand? i could come up with an idea for a fusion reactor that runs out of my @ss. but it doesn't matter until its recognized by the patent office as something that is actually legitimate.
not to mention your assertion that your country had the first telephone network is just plain false. just look a few posts above
Alec's first test of the telephone was from Brantford, Ontario to Mount Pleasant about eight kilometers. Bell set up his receiver in a telegraph office in Mount Pleasant and people crowded inside. Bell put his ear up to the receiver and he heard voices; they were faint but they were there! The first long distance telephone call was a success. Still this wasn't enough for the great inventor. An eight mile distance between Brantford and Paris, Ontario could possibly be enough. At first the voices were almost nothing through the receiver. Bell sent a telegram to Brantford suggesting that they adjust the transmitter. Boom! The voices came out nice and clear. The same year the telephone was patented. Many inventors claimed the telephone for their own. Bell showed his notes from the lab and he thought it was cleared up but, the debate would go on for eighteen years until Bell finally won the battle.
An actual working unit was made before the one you mentioned. I am researching it now. There is very little info on it.
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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
I never said we had a telephone network.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you can't even provide a link? just look at the bolded print above your post. what does it say quite literally that you do not understand? i could come up with an idea for a fusion reactor that runs out of my @ss. but it doesn't matter until its recognized by the patent office as something that is actually legitimate.
not to mention your assertion that your country had the first telephone network is just plain false. just look a few posts above
An actual working unit was made before the one you mentioned.
no not really. both the unit that made the first sounds and the first unit that actually had intelligible sentences were done in boston.
Fibre + DWDM (dense wavelength division multiplexing) on a modern infrastructure = high speeds to masses.
The limit is the old infrastructure in place unfortunately. Until a fibre roll-out occurs, you'll be stuck in single megabit land for a while.
The limit is the old infrastructure in place unfortunately. Until a fibre roll-out occurs, you'll be stuck in single megabit land for a while.
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I know that. Everything leading up to that including the patent was done in Canada - Brantford Ontario to be exact.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
I never said we had a telephone network.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you can't even provide a link? just look at the bolded print above your post. what does it say quite literally that you do not understand? i could come up with an idea for a fusion reactor that runs out of my @ss. but it doesn't matter until its recognized by the patent office as something that is actually legitimate.
not to mention your assertion that your country had the first telephone network is just plain false. just look a few posts above
An actual working unit was made before the one you mentioned.
no not really. both the unit that made the first sounds and the first unit that actually had intelligible sentences were done in boston.
See my edit.
Info is sketchy. He called it Gallows Frame. Not quite sure what that means.
EDIT: I am tired. I am going to bed.
Actually Bell didnt invent the Telephone - he perfected into a marketable version. A German man called Philipp Reis did about 15 years earlier - however his invention didnt make it big. I dont know how scientific exchange worked back then but I guess 15 years should be enough to carry a paper to Bell.
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