But we invented the Internet...why are they faster?

Slikkster

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Edit: Should have mentioned this has been pasted from a web article...

Yahoo and Softbank just announced in Japan a new ADSL service with 50Mbit/s downstream and 3Mbit/s upstream for $38/month - Envy!


I paid for SBC 1Mbit DSL about the same in the USA. Softbank has successfully captured more than 4 million users.
In Japanese metropolitan areas consumers also have access to fibre optic lines with speeds up to 100Mbit/s. The Japan Times has an interesting article on this topic.
This is a huge digital divide in my eyes. 50-100x faster internet access for low cost changes dramatically what can be done with the internet and with online services. The US and Europe need to catch up here fast.
 

pulse8

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Because if we had 50mb downloads and 3mb uploads we could pirate DVDs in NO TIME. :)
 

Savij

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I'm just making this up:

Japan - Run 1 mile of fiber optic, open market to 1000s of new customers
US - Run 1 mile of fiber optic, open market to 10s of new customers
 

spidey07

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The US and Europe need to catch up here fast.

we invented the telephone and had the first telephone network.

as such we also have the oldest infrastructure especially in the last mile arena. So that's why broadband depoloyment is sluggish in US.

There are places where you can get 100 Base-T ports though.

For instance some of the metro networks I've built you can get a 1000 Base port for 400 a month. But you already have to have the SONET gear to attach to the ring installed.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: Savij
I'm just making this up:

Japan - Run 1 mile of fiber optic, open market to 1000s of new customers
US - Run 1 mile of fiber optic, open market to 10s of new customers

Doesn't really work though, you could say the same about places in the US like NYC.

When my parent's got their fibre optic line (outside Osaka) the power company put down the last mile just for them. And they were the only customers in a 5block radius for at least 6months.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: Savij
I'm just making this up:

Japan - Run 1 mile of fiber optic, open market to 1000s of new customers
US - Run 1 mile of fiber optic, open market to 10s of new customers

Your numbers are a little "off". Japan - 1 mile = 2000s of new customers....they're basically the human equivalent to sardines. (without the fishy smell)
 

rahvin

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Japan has a nearly identical population number as the US (around 300million) and a land mass that is the size of california (which has about 50million currently) So imagine california with every US citizen in it, or increase the cali population by 6x. Per home deployments get really cheap when everyone lives in apartment buildings.
 

Passions

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Did you ever bother to take a look at how big Japan is on the map compared to the US?

If you want to change and lay fiberoptic cable down in a small area, it's much quicker than in a large, massive area.

Just letting you know.
 

DaWhim

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: Savij
I'm just making this up:

Japan - Run 1 mile of fiber optic, open market to 1000s of new customers
US - Run 1 mile of fiber optic, open market to 10s of new customers

Your numbers are a little "off". Japan - 1 mile = 2000s of new customers....they're basically the human equivalent to sardines. (without the fishy smell)

pretty much why they invaded other neighbor countries.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: spidey07
The US and Europe need to catch up here fast.

we invented the telephone and had the first telephone network.

as such we also have the oldest infrastructure especially in the last mile arena. So that's why broadband depoloyment is sluggish in US.

There are places where you can get 100 Base-T ports though.

For instance some of the metro networks I've built you can get a 1000 Base port for 400 a month. But you already have to have the SONET gear to attach to the ring installed.

Finally, someone who knows what the hell they are talking about.
 

Scouzer

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And consider how many servers you will utilize EVER that can provide anywhere near your bandwidth...

Japan is 130 million, and there's 30 million in California BTW.
 

skace

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That does it, I'm moving to Japan. My network connection requires it. Plus I'd get all the hot console titles first. Oh damn this is win/win! Except I don't speak japaneese...hmmm..
 

andylawcc

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chinese invented paper and gunpowder 4000 years ago, now which country prints more books and build more nukes? :) its all about development man.
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Japan has a nearly identical population number as the US (around 300million) and a land mass that is the size of california (which has about 50million currently) So imagine california with every US citizen in it, or increase the cali population by 6x. Per home deployments get really cheap when everyone lives in apartment buildings.

Dude, Japan has 125M people and declining.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
chinese invented paper and gunpowder 4000 years ago, now which country prints more books and build more nukes? :) its all about development man.



How can you compare nukes to gunpoweder?


Sysadmin
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
3 words: high population density

yep, the US is so freeking big it cant be done in a cost effective manner, the backbone just isnt there yet

you cold do it for cities liek LA, NYC.... but not the whole USA
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: Sysadmin
Originally posted by: andylawcc
chinese invented paper and gunpowder 4000 years ago, now which country prints more books and build more nukes? :) its all about development man.



How can you compare nukes to gunpoweder?


Sysadmin

okay my fault, substitute nukes with ICBMs or just plain old patriot missiles.
 

Rumpltzer

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Cable TV is about $60 a year in Taiwan.

Several HBOs, Cinemax, Showtime, Starz, CNN International, etc. are included in that price.

Living in the US is a rip-off.