If the migrants were blonde Scandinavians, Repugs would have invited them into their homes.
Vic
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Oh, the Nazis made those lists about LGBT people too.
KMFJD
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As well as Roma, people with disabilities, political enemies, Soviet Prisoners, Polish, Serbs etc....the oft stated 6 million people exterminated in the camps is just for the Jewish victims, there where another 5.5+ million....
Anti immigrant folks: I’m not against immigration, just illegal immigration!
Pro immigrant folks: so can we increase legal immigration then?
Anti immigrant folks: no. But I’m still not anti immigrant.
Pro immigrant folks: so can we increase legal immigration then?
Anti immigrant folks: no. But I’m still not anti immigrant.
dawp
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KMFJD
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please explain where the racism is? I was expanding on the topic of how many people where killed by the nazi's , not everyone is aware of the staggering number of people that where killed.
cytg111
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sportage
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You know.... D governors could be just as nasty as R governors if they wanted to be. For example, every time a victim is shot down in the streets by an assault weapon in an R governed state, the D governors could ship symbolic bodybags to the homes of those R governors. Or, ship a cardboard box to the homes of every R governor for every single homeless living on their streets. 1000 homeless, 1000 cardboard boxes to Desantis. And I'm sure Dems could think of many more ways to react to R governors governance because its all bout those R governors pulling these stunts just to make the headlines on Fox News. Actually, the Dems have a lot more ammunition at their disposal when it comes to injustice between R governors vs D governors.
But why is it that those D governors ever pull such antics against those R governors? Because the D governors are not heartless ass-holes.
But why is it that those D governors ever pull such antics against those R governors? Because the D governors are not heartless ass-holes.
Indus
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No no no.. all these illegals are good because they mean the states have more population.
Since they're targeting New York, it will go from 28 electoral votes to 38 in the next appropriation.
MrSquished
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This is a good idea, I would start to send body bags for every person killed in a democratic state by gun bought in a backwards regressive red state.
Vic
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I haven't seen any discussion on this (and I know religious discussions here can be a bit sensitive), but what Abbot did here was arguably one of the most anti-Christian things a person could do. Not un-Christian, anti-Christian. The story of the Nativity is centered around the plight of refugees and the righteousness of being hospitable to strangers and foreigners. Abbot is literally Herod.
How does any person who calls themselves a Christian not see this?
How does any person who calls themselves a Christian not see this?
Only the ones that know how to rake a forest though…..
UNCjigga
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Buttery Mails: The DeSantis Edition
I wonder how many of DeSantis’ staffers and aides are using private Signal chats and personal emails to do his dirty work??
Records suggest that Larry Keefe, DeSantis’ public safety czar, wrote some of the language that the private contractor, Vertol Systems Company, used in its bid proposal to fly migrants from Texas to Democratic states. Keefe, a former U.S. attorney under the Trump administration, represented Vertol for many years in private practice. DeSantis appointed him last year as a top adviser with a portfolio that included combating illegal immigration.
The emails between Keefe and his former client, Vertol CEO James Montgomerie, first reported by NBC6, show a close relationship that continued after Keefe entered government service. It was a relationship that helped Vertol land a lucrative taxpayer contract, which Keefe discussed without using his standard, state-issued email account.
“This is the email channel to use,” Keefe wrote to Montgomerie on Aug. 26, as Vertol, a Destin, Florida-based aviation company, was preparing to bid for the state’s migrant flight program.
Four days after that initial message, Keefe sent Montgomerie eight paragraphs of language that the Vertol CEO would include almost verbatim in his official proposal for the migrant flight program. The Florida Department of Transportation approved Vertol’s proposal soon after and the first flights happened a little more than a week later. Keefe and Montgomerie exchanged dozens of emails and text messages — some on the encrypted messaging app Signal — in the run-up to the contract being approved.
I wonder how many of DeSantis’ staffers and aides are using private Signal chats and personal emails to do his dirty work??
Records suggest that Larry Keefe, DeSantis’ public safety czar, wrote some of the language that the private contractor, Vertol Systems Company, used in its bid proposal to fly migrants from Texas to Democratic states. Keefe, a former U.S. attorney under the Trump administration, represented Vertol for many years in private practice. DeSantis appointed him last year as a top adviser with a portfolio that included combating illegal immigration.
The emails between Keefe and his former client, Vertol CEO James Montgomerie, first reported by NBC6, show a close relationship that continued after Keefe entered government service. It was a relationship that helped Vertol land a lucrative taxpayer contract, which Keefe discussed without using his standard, state-issued email account.
“This is the email channel to use,” Keefe wrote to Montgomerie on Aug. 26, as Vertol, a Destin, Florida-based aviation company, was preparing to bid for the state’s migrant flight program.
Four days after that initial message, Keefe sent Montgomerie eight paragraphs of language that the Vertol CEO would include almost verbatim in his official proposal for the migrant flight program. The Florida Department of Transportation approved Vertol’s proposal soon after and the first flights happened a little more than a week later. Keefe and Montgomerie exchanged dozens of emails and text messages — some on the encrypted messaging app Signal — in the run-up to the contract being approved.
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Fenixgoon
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@FelixDeCat Care to respond or just going to ignore facts like usual?Felix I know we've gone over this before in other threads on immigration. Continuing to claim that people don't show up for their hearings is just a lie and you repeating it is a form of trolling.
11 Years of Government Data Reveal That Immigrants Do Show Up for Court
A new report released today by the American Immigration Council examines 11 years of government data on the rate at which immigrants appear for hearings in U.S. immigration court. The report, “Measuring In Absentia Removal in Immigration Court,” concludes that an overwhelming 83% of immigrants...www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
FelixDeCat
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Care to respond to an organization that advocates for any type of immigration that seems to also include the illegal variety?
News
They have nothing but glowing things to say about people who cross over no matter how they get here because they are an immigration advocacy group. They seem to see no downside to allowing unlimited millions of people (and by extension, billions of people) over a completely open border.
A google search seems to all repeat the same figure of most showing up for hearings but I think there is a lot of selective choices being made in the data to make it appear that way. One seems to qualify the percentage (which is all over the place) by including "from those that were interviewed" or those that had counsel.
Also the backlog of cases stretches for years, which is convenient. Go ahead, establish yourself illegally and have lots kids in America - your case is years away:
Immigration Court Backlog Surges To a Record 1.6 Million
People must now wait an average of nearly five years for a judge to decide their case
Assuming you do not show up for your hearing supposedly you are then "ordered removed" (which can be appealed, further dragging out the process). When are we going to finally deport those who have been finally judged by a court to be illegal a decade from now? When?!
And finally, I decide who or what I will respond to so dont try to force a response again or you go on ignore. Say your piece and thats it.
zinfamous
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ivwshane
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Lol! When you can’t refute the data simply make up another conspiracy theory to explain it away.
I also love the snowflake comment at the end, it’s like a cherry on top of motivated reasoning.
I also love the snowflake comment at the end, it’s like a cherry on top of motivated reasoning.
Care to respond to an organization that advocates for any type of immigration that seems to also include the illegal variety?
News
They have nothing but glowing things to say about people who cross over no matter how they get here because they are an immigration advocacy group. They seem to see no downside to allowing unlimited millions of people (and by extension, billions of people) over a completely open border.
A google search seems to all repeat the same figure of most showing up for hearings but I think there is a lot of selective choices being made in the data to make it appear that way. One seems to qualify the percentage (which is all over the place) by including "from those that were interviewed" or those that had counsel.
Also the backlog of cases stretches for years, which is convenient. Go ahead, establish yourself illegally and have lots kids in America - your case is years away:
Immigration Court Backlog Surges To a Record 1.6 Million
People must now wait an average of nearly five years for a judge to decide their casetime.com
Assuming you do not show up for your hearing supposedly you are then "ordered removed" (which can be appealed, further dragging out the process). When are we going to finally deport those who have been finally judged by a court to be illegal a decade from now? When?!
And finally, I decide who or what I will respond to so dont try to force a response again or you go on ignore. Say your piece and thats it.
You didn’t respond to the actual facts just tried to deflect. It’s sad really.
@FelixDeCat for the last bit. LOL
You are so weak
Indus
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Care to respond to an organization that advocates for any type of immigration that seems to also include the illegal variety?
News
They have nothing but glowing things to say about people who cross over no matter how they get here because they are an immigration advocacy group. They seem to see no downside to allowing unlimited millions of people (and by extension, billions of people) over a completely open border.
A google search seems to all repeat the same figure of most showing up for hearings but I think there is a lot of selective choices being made in the data to make it appear that way. One seems to qualify the percentage (which is all over the place) by including "from those that were interviewed" or those that had counsel.
Also the backlog of cases stretches for years, which is convenient. Go ahead, establish yourself illegally and have lots kids in America - your case is years away:
Immigration Court Backlog Surges To a Record 1.6 Million
People must now wait an average of nearly five years for a judge to decide their case
Assuming you do not show up for your hearing supposedly you are then "ordered removed" (which can be appealed, further dragging out the process). When are we going to finally deport those who have been finally judged by a court to be illegal a decade from now? When?!
And finally, I decide who or what I will respond to so dont try to force a response again or you go on ignore. Say your piece and thats it.
Rather than ranting bullshit..
How about you just ask any legal immigrant how long the process is?
I know of a kid who's parents did everything legally and are still stuck up in this.
1977 - Kid born
1986 - Parents got green card under farm bill for farmers.
1992 - Kid brought here on visa
1992 - Parents applied for green card for kid
1998 - Kid had interview, Denied because kid turned 21. Have to reapply under different cateogry
1998 - Reapplication under Unmarried Son & Daughter over 21
2007 - Kid had interview again pending security check by FBI
2022 - Security check still not finished.. case status still undecided.
This is reality of our LEGAL immigrants.
How bad do you think the reality is for asylum immigrants if they are not under direct threat of being killed?
Should he vote ILLEGALLY for TRUMP to speed things along?
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