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Just for those who are unaware of the background story, this is a good read to explain how all of this happened.
That's a great article. Thanks for sharing.
Just for those who are unaware of the background story, this is a good read to explain how all of this happened.
So it looks like AMD's assumed node advantage is melting down by the minute. Nvidia is now essentially dumping TSMC's 16 nm FinFet for Samsung's equivalent Business Korea reports.
Just for those who are unaware of the background story, this is a good read to explain how all of this happened.
So it looks like AMD's assumed node advantage is melting down by the minute. Nvidia is now essentially dumping TSMC's 16 nm FinFet for Samsung's equivalent Business Korea reports.
Just for those who are unaware of the background story, this is a good read to explain how all of this happened.
2. Nobody should take Samsung lightly, this is why TSMC will pay dearly for their arrogance. GloFo is already onboard with Samsung's 14ff, so whenever they are ready, expect it for AMD products.
Very interesting. What if Samsung were also to follow Tom's Hardware's advice regarding AMD..?
Could this be what Kepler patent trolling was all about? To get a better deal on samsung finfets?
What IP do you have in mind?The main argument for this is the acquisition of the graphics IP that AMD has, because AMD's x86 license cannot be transferred (IIRC). Problem is AMD already sold much of its graphics IP to PowerVR, which is now used by Apple in Cyclone and Enhanced Cyclone. I'm not sure how this affects AMDs current graphics IP and whether it transfers, but we can assume that whatever benefit derived by Samsung from an AMD acquisition would probably not be much greater than what is offered by PowerVR to Apple. I'm not sure how much that's worth, and in any case I think matching PowerVR and Apple would be a best case scenario for a Samsung/AMD merger
Very interesting. What if Samsung were also to follow Tom's Hardware's advice regarding AMD..?
Depends on just who bought a whole lot of shares...Also, something big about to happen??
Very sound logic, I've been seeing it as a great bargain for Samsung or Apple for a long time now. AMD has technology, IP & engineers that align well to further Samsung or Apple's interests, not just in mobiles. We know both of these giants have a strong presence on desktops that could benefit. They would also love a chunk of the HPC & Server pie.
Also, something big about to happen??
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amd/interactive-chart?timeframe=5d
^ Did you read about the suit? NV say everyone is infringing. ARM's Mali, Qualcomm's Adreno, and Imagination's PowerVR are all infringing products. So that covers not only Samsung and Qualcomm, but ARM, Imagination, HTC, Motorola, Sony, LG, Hwawei, ZTE, Shaomi, and of course Apple. Basically anyone who does not have cross-licensing agreement with NVIDIA is allegedly infringing on NV's patents.
NV state they are suing Samsung first to set a precedent, or set an example, or something of that nature, and will go after the rest as they see fit.
Legit, no doubt. ^_^
Nvidia starts to use Samsung as a chip manufacturing partner company
Nvidia Corp. and Samsung Electronics have quietly signed an agreement under which the latter will produce computer chips for the former. At present, it is unknown whether Samsung will manufacture graphics processors or application processors for the chip designer, but it is obvious that Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. is no longer exclusive production partner of Nvidia.
We utilize industry-leading suppliers, such as Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company Limited and Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd, to produce our semiconductor wafers, a statement in the companys latest 10K filing reads. Previously, similar filings only said that Nvidia uses manufacturing capacities of TSMC.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/a...sung-as-a-chip-manufacturing-partner-company/
Its more tsmc dumping nvidia in favor of apple...
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaahAHAHAIt's official.
You are forgetting that Samsung is working with GlobalFoundries with 14nm FinFET. The way from LP SOC process from Samsung to HP chips from GlobalFoundries may be pretty short. A lot of handshaking can happen when Nvidia start working with GloFoSeems to be Tegra style SoCs. Also fits in since Samsung doesnt have a high power node.
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I really really really hope this involves HP graphic cards as well. TSMC can go to hell for all I care. They are the reason why we are still at 28nm.
They couldnt get a HP 20nm process running. They have been doing everything they can to please Apple and probably used less effort than what they wanted in getting a 20nm process running for graphic cards because of that. And TSMC are way behind both Intel and Samsung.
God knows how many times TSMC have screwed up. I won`t miss them at all
Even Qualcomm have said they had enough of TSMC. Two long established partners
You are forgetting that Samsung is working with GlobalFoundries with 14nm FinFET. The way from LP SOC process from Samsung to HP chips from GlobalFoundries may be pretty short. A lot of handshaking can happen when Nvidia start working with GloFo
It's more Samsung dumping AMD in favor of Nvidia.
Isn't TSMC's 16nm FF+ supposedly better than Samsung's current 14nm FF other than the itsy bitsy tiny fact that it's not in mass production yet? Either way, it's really, really great another foundry has stepped up the competition. I'm hoping the Pascal will offer a greater perf/w improvement than Kepler did over Fermi (i.e. better than 2x). I would love to see GP104 be 2.25x perf/w over GM204.
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaahAHAHA
I really really really hope this involves HP graphic cards as well. TSMC can go to hell for all I care. They are the reason why we are still at 28nm.
They couldnt get a HP 20nm process running. They have been doing everything they can to please Apple and probably used less effort than what they wanted in getting a 20nm process running for graphic cards because of that. And TSMC are way behind both Intel and Samsung.
God knows how many times TSMC have screwed up. I won`t miss them at all
Even Qualcomm have said they had enough of TSMC. Two long established partners
You are forgetting that Samsung is working with GlobalFoundries with 14nm FinFET. The way from LP SOC process from Samsung to HP chips from GlobalFoundries may be pretty short. A lot of handshaking can happen when Nvidia start working with GloFo