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Bush's promises for the next 4 years (civilized discussion only)

IHateMyJob2004

IHateMyJob2004

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Civil discussion of the next 4 years!

The president has been chosen. Lets all stop yelling and go to his official re-election website and discuss what he has planned for us.

http://www.georgewbush.com/

I recomend everyone do this. There is actually to much stuff there to spend time building a summary for post. Please, everyone go there and educate yourself. There is no point in complaining anymore. no more cheers and jeers.

While this post has flame war built all over it, please keep things civilized as this could grow into a nice civilized discussion. Please discuss nicely and share information. There is no time to be emotional at this point. Learn!

[peace symbol] Let the sharing of ideas begin [/peace symbol]
 
I hope, as I think many do, that he will try to leave a kinder legacy. I hope he doesn't invade anyone else with our military stretched so thin as is. I hope he wraps Iraq up in a timely fashion, as he won't just abandon it now. And yes I hope he scales back some of the spending that has run rampant since he started this ride.
 
I think the major issue he will try and tackle domestically will be Social Security. I *hope* he tries to work with Congress to control spending. Tightening spending and a growing economy should mean lower deficits.

 
Originally posted by: cwjerome
I think the major issue he will try and tackle domestically will be Social Security. I *hope* he tries to work with Congress to control spending. Tightening spending and a growing economy should mean lower deficits.
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He won't get far on the SS issue as it would alienate a large voter block for the Republicans..those over 60.
 
He'll have to cut spending or raise taxes (which he promised not to do), so in order to not go wildly into debt, spending will have to be cut.

On the military front, he's promised no draft, so either we're not going to commit troops anywhere else, or we're going to pull out of Iraq (at least somewhat).

As far as SS goes, privatized is a good idea, but funding SS for current old people is quite a challenge. He'll have to deal with that too.
 
I think just trying to handle Iraq will be quite enough top deal with on the foreign front.

Looks like Rehnquist is have some very very serious health problems, so we'll see at least 1 judge appointment, but 2 or 3 vould happen *shudder*

I hope he tries to do somthing to control the deficit but thats not likely. Maybe a national gay marriage ammendment, even if its not needed anymore because states are passing there own bans. Reform of the tax code most likely favoring the rich (not flaming, look at Bush's past efforts), I dunno, theres a good chance we will be attacked here at home again within the next 4 years so if that happens everything changes again....

I don't know, but to me it doesnt look great. We shall see though, hopefully bush will cooperate with the Dems and come to a compromise on a few issues.
 

(1)
I'm kinda confused by the Head Start. I don't get this:"Strengthen Head Start" It should be dismantled and rebuilt it from scratch. Might just be a syntactical issue though. Hopefully the negative issues will be addressed and strengthen will be appropriate phrasing.

(2)
Implemented a new rule to lower drug costs for millions of Americans by strengthening competition between generic and brand-name drugs, saving American consumers more than $35 billion in drug costs over the next ten years.
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- No prolbem with this unless it involves price controls on pateneted drugs or basically illiminates patents. From what I understand this is not the case.

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To be honest, all these initiatives and tax cuts together are scary. I don't understand where the funding can come from.

(4) Whoever designed/created that site deserves a pat on the back. It totally dodges any failures in the past by about 100 miles. Like dodging the Iraq/WMD issue and using hte standard "safer now" commentry. (please no flame war!)

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"modernize our electricity grid". I hope Mr. Bush understands the costs involved here. Tax cuts and "modernizing our electricity grid" are contradictary ideas.

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This bothers me. The energy section does not really say flat out that we are reducing our dependence on oil. If anything, it just says we will drill more domestically. Example:
President Bush will seek to promote environmentally sound domestic oil production in just one percent of Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, which could provide up to 1 million barrels of oil a day for nearly 20 years.
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This is like butting a band-aid on your forehead because you have a headache. looks nice to people that know you have a headache, but it doesn't do nothing over the long term to help remove the headache's pain. Over the short term, fine, but oil simply is not a viable answer anymore.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
I hope, as I think many do, that he will try to leave a kinder legacy. I hope he doesn't invade anyone else with our military stretched so thin as is. I hope he wraps Iraq up in a timely fashion, as he won't just abandon it now. And yes I hope he scales back some of the spending that has run rampant since he started this ride.
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:thumbsup:

Agree. But the future is uncertain. Iraq is Iraq. I agree in that I hope he has learned from the past and doesn't do anything like Iraq in the future. Let freedom rain, don't fire it out of a hose....
 
Originally posted by: Tabb
How can he possibly not raise taxes?
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I don't know how he hopes to pull this off. I'm actually worried about defense spending as I work for a defense contractor.

The long term impact of lower taxes is yet to be seen. All we can do now is watch and hope.
 
Originally posted by: cwjerome
He doesn't have the constitutional authority to raise taxes 😉
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Yeah, it's not like the Republicans control Congress or anything 🙂 If they are raised, I'm willing to bet he'll be the one pushing it through.
 
Originally posted by: Tabb
How can he possibly not raise taxes?
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The better question is, will the Republicans who supported him call President Bush on it, if he does raise taxes? Something tells me they won't. It will be like President Bush's misleading the nation on WMD in Iraq: as soon as it is revealed there are no WMD's- new conveneient excuses will merge. For taxes: I can see people saying things like "Oh well at the time he could not have forseen the need to raise taxes". It will be entertaining!
 
Well I hope he is better at keeping these promises than he was for those he made in the 2000 election.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: cwjerome
He doesn't have the constitutional authority to raise taxes 😉
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Yeah, it's not like the Republicans control Congress or anything 🙂 If they are raised, I'm willing to bet he'll be the one pushing it through.
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I hate to say it, but with Bush'es single mindedness (as I see it), I doubt he'll ever even consider raising taxes, even if it is an only solution to a future (unknown) scenerio. <-- slightly uncivil, but just trying to illustrate that it's a personal opinion shared but some but not all.
 
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Originally posted by: HamSupLo
Syria and Iran are next.
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Maybe Syria, but not Iran.
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I'm pretty sure he will be called to task by the american public if he even mentions going to war with anybody until he cleans up Iraq and even after that. From what I've read, a commander in chief only needs to win 1 wimpy war to become a successful leader. It would imply he won't need to fight anymore, now that he's proven he can beat the crap out of someone.
 
I think Bush will head this way:

1) Finish Iraq. After the elections take place, I think things will start to fall into place there.
2) FIND OSAMA- He's going to screw up eventually. After the elections in Iraq, I think he's going to come down hard on him.
3) He's going to have to deal with Iran and N. Korea. After Iraq bit him in the butt I think he'll take a more diplomatic aproach.
4) I think he's going to cut spending on a lot of programs to bring the debt down. This might tick a lot of people off if they're in a cut program.
5) Tax breaks- I see more coming. I'm in the sub $100,000 income range and got an extra $2000 back on my taxes from the last tax breaks. This allowed me to buy a more expensive car than I was planning on purchasing.
 
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: cwjerome
He doesn't have the constitutional authority to raise taxes 😉
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Yeah, it's not like the Republicans control Congress or anything 🙂 If they are raised, I'm willing to bet he'll be the one pushing it through.
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I hate to say it, but with Bush'es single mindedness (as I see it), I doubt he'll ever even consider raising taxes, even if it is an only solution to a future (unknown) scenerio. <-- slightly uncivil, but just trying to illustrate that it's a personal opinion shared but some but not all.
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Ya, I agree. Bush, unlike his father, is too much an Idealist to change his mind, even if Deficits continue to Grow.

Early in the morning a Pundit mentioned that since Bush doesn't need to worry about Re-election anymore, he might adopt a more Moderate stance on things. I'm hoping so, especially towards the Fiscal situation and the use of the Military(unless absolutely necessary). We'll know in 4 years how it turns out. 😉
 
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