Bush's EPA director quits

CaptnKirk

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Christine Todd Whitman

Enough said, this Administration is a joke.

All the 'Iraq' leadership command Garner and the lady.
Ari Flischer, others in the inside circle, now this.
Can you say 'Credibility' ?
 

Alistar7

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Whitman, a former New Jersey governor, said her resignation is effective June 27. She met with Bush at the White House on Tuesday afternoon to inform him of her decision, the agency said.


Whitman, in her letter, defended the administration's environmental policies which have been under attack by environmentalists as a series of rollbacks in protecting the nation's air, water and land.


"Our work has been guided by the strong belief that environmental protection and economic prosperity can and must go hand-in-hand," she wrote. "The EPA has built an enviable record of success that will result in significant improvements to the state of our nation's treasured environment."


She pointed to initiatives to reduce pollution from off-road diesel engines, a push to cut pollution from school buses and "our aggressive and effective efforts to enforce the nation's environmental laws."


She said she was proud of the EPA work under her leadership.

Whitman Resigns From EPA
 

Piano Man

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I'd quit too if my boss was f*cking me over with every decision. Trust me, she did not agree with the administration, she was just being professional when she defended the work the EPA did.
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Piano Man
I'd quit too if my boss was f*cking me over with every decision. Trust me, she did not agree with the administration, she was just being professional when she defended the work the EPA did.

ok, since you don't like Bush I should trust you, instead of taking her own words for what they are, thankfully you were here to tell all of us how uninfomed she really is to her actual feelings. How did you get such insight anyway?

I never (nor did the quotes from the article I posted) said she agreed with the administration. I understand and am fully aware of their relationship. This never suggested she agreed with Bush so why did you even mention that? Hate, bias?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: Piano Man
I'd quit too if my boss was f*cking me over with every decision. Trust me, she did not agree with the administration, she was just being professional when she defended the work the EPA did.

ok, since you don't like Bush I should trust you, instead of taking her own words for what they are, thankfully you were here to tell all of us how uninfomed she really is to her actual feelings. How did you get such insight anyway?

I never (nor did the quotes from the article I posted) said she agreed with the administration. I understand and am fully aware of their relationship. This never suggested she agreed with Bush so why did you even mention that? Hate, bias?

No, it isn't hate or bias;) It's because he's soooo much more open minded than the rest of us ;):p

CkG
 

Alistar7

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cool just checking, I am going to call Christine to let her know she isn't really feeling what she claims she is, I will forward his e mail so she can find out exactly what she thinks, I'm sure she will appreciate finally knowing.
 

BDawg

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Wow, I thought the EPA was scrapped the day Bush took office. ;)

My favorite was the EPA study on global warming a year or so ago that Bush said he agreed with. Then, he found out their data went against his idea, and said he didn't agree with it.
 

Alistar7

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Have to admire her though, it's one thing to sit and complain, yet another to live in the lion's den and work for the change you belive is right.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Regardless of situation, she knows the cardinal rule of quitting. Never badmouth your former employer. You are an idiot if you do. Others will take note when they interview you, and she is hardly in a position where it would go unnoticed.
 

Alistar7

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playing with the queen of hearts, knowing it ain't really smart, the joker aint the only fool....

anyone want to finish the rest?
 

Moonbeam

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Hehe, it's facinating to see some people think they know more than somebody else because they buy a line of what, BS or is it truth, than rejecting it as political self protective spin. How about selective amnesia. She realized that what she was doing was helping to kill the planet, but the horror of that realization was too much to bare so she confinced herself what she had done was good. Reducing diesel fumes on school busses is a major triumph in a dying world, no?
 

Moonbeam

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playing with the queen of hearts, knowing it ain't really smart, the joker aint the only fool....
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What.... Alister7 is also a tool?

 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Hehe, it's facinating to see some people think they know more than somebody else because they buy a line of what, BS or is it truth, than rejecting it as political self protective spin. How about selective amnesia. She realized that what she was doing was helping to kill the planet, but the horror of that realization was too much to bare so she confinced herself what she had done was good. Reducing diesel fumes on school busses is a major triumph in a dying world, no?

Let's see, it is part of a govt. controlled agency, so there is clear and easy jurisdiction to make change in that instance. We have a free education system that creates a need for a massive busing system, which we do have, it is not a bad place to start.

How about this, she was aware this administration's policies differed greatly than her own personal position on the issues. She also knew the only reason she was given her position was due to her standing and as an olive branch by the Bush camp. She willingly put herself in the middle of a pack of wolves to fight for what she believed for in the face of certain defeat, she deserves mass kudos for that.
 

phillyTIM

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no actually the Queen of Hearts = Air Fleisher,

bush's favorite spinnster

he so faithfully sung the words of his bushness


so who's card is next to fall in the Bush Regime?
 

sMiLeYz

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What is this? The second EPA director? I'd be fascinated as to see who Bush appoints as the new EPA director, or is he planning to scrape the whole agency altogether?
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
playing with the queen of hearts, knowing it ain't really smart, the joker aint the only fool....
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What.... Alister7 is also a tool?

Juice Newton - Playing With The Queen Of Hearts, don't remember that song?
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What is this? The second EPA director? I'd be fascinated as to see who Bush appoints as the new EPA director, or is he planning to scrape the whole agency altogether?

if they don't have to drive to work anymore he can claim reductions in pollutants....
 

Moonbeam

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She willingly put herself in the middle of a pack of wolves to fight for what she believed for in the face of certain defeat, she deserves mass kudos for that.
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Alternatively she should be condemned for lending her credibility to a pack of wolves who would only be nourished by her carcass.
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Juice Newton - Playing With The Queen Of Hearts, don't remember that song?
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Can't forget what I never knew.
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if they don't have to drive to work anymore he can claim reductions in pollutants....
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Hehe, true. :D

Extinction should ultimately reduce polution too.

 

Alistar7

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that's your interpretation, but I don't see you putting your personal and professional life in the hands of someone opposed to your ideas and actions......

anyone who would suggest she lent her credibility did not follow her career.
 

Alistar7

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"Christie Whitman, often at odds with the Bush White House over environmental issues and a lightning rod for the administration's critics, resigned Wednesday as head of the Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites)."

With Whitman's departure as EPA administrator, Bush loses one of the most prominent women in his Cabinet ? a moderate former New Jersey governor selected by the president to help soften his image as a political conservative, particularly on environmental issues.


Whitman had a history of clashing with the White House, starting with the president's abrupt decision to withdraw from the international global warming (news - web sites) treaty. She had been the administration's point person in rolling back environmental protections initiated by previous administrations.

it was not her bending over and being Bush's puppet.....
 

Moonbeam

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that's your interpretation, but I don't see you putting your personal and professional life in the hands of someone opposed to your ideas and actions......

anyone who would suggest she lent her credibility did not follow her career.

it was not her bending over and being Bush's puppet.....
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In the first place my story is irrelivant and unknown to you anyway. Secondly, I didn't say that was my interpretation, only an alternative one.

Finally, the lack of bending over is the problem. She lent credibility to ther public that her opposition was of some ultimate value. Bush and his admin have steamrolled the environment and her too. Could be why she's leaving, no?
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
cool just checking, I am going to call Christine to let her know she isn't really feeling what she claims she is, I will forward his e mail so she can find out exactly what she thinks, I'm sure she will appreciate finally knowing.

Res ipsa loquitor (I think I spelled it correctly)
Let the facts speak for themselves.

We cannot know for certain what is in her mind even if she tells us. This is politics and in that arena what is published has whatever slant she must imploy, if any.

So we are left to deduce truth from the observable reality and to do so with our bias in full force. It then becomes moot because you may see the same thing differn'tly. No?

 

LunarRay

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MB,

In the first place my story is irrelivant and unknown to you anyway. Secondly, I didn't say that was my interpretation, only an alternative one.

Are you sure you're not Jerry Brown. I sat in a conversation more than 30 years ago with Jesse Unruh's son Bruce and Moonbeam the first and the same thing was said... deja vu all over again.

:D