Bush's Blunder: Amnesty for Illegal Mexican Immigrants

[NFS4]

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<< Why is Bush in bed with Mexico to such an extent? I know Texas borders with Mexico but what (besides tons of drugs) do we get out of the deal? >>



b/c his wife is mexican!!!!
to get some, you gotta give up some
>>


What?? She ain't Mexican...Jeb's wife is Hispanic, however...at least I think she is.

 

[laFiera]

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<< Why is Bush in bed with Mexico to such an extent? I know Texas borders with Mexico but what (besides tons of drugs) do we get out of the deal? >>



b/c his wife is mexican!!!!
to get some, you gotta give up some
>>


What?? She ain't Mexican...Jeb's wife is Hispanic, however...at least I think she is. >>



ahahha..sh*t..i had that wrong.....that's right, is the guy in florida that has the latino wife


Laura Welch Bush, the only child of Harold and Jenna Welch, was born and reared in Midland, Texas. Laura Bush developed a love of reading and learning during her primary and secondary school years. She attended Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas, where she earned a Bachelor of Science degree in education in 1968.

 

[rahvin]

<<<< Now President Fox of Mexico wants >>


Who gives a flying fsck!>>

Mexico is a very important trading partner. Very very important. Second only to Canada. With Fox in charge their economy should move further and further along making them an even more valuable trading partner. If we can assist Mexico in coming out of the 3rd world then they will become our most important trading partner (larger population than canada and made in america is a good thing down there). It IS in our best interest to help mexico, how many $$$ do we spend patroling that border? If the Mexican economy can grow there will be no reason for mexican illegal aliencs to cross the border.

 

[Texmaster]

<< Been listening to Michael Savage, Tex? >>



Nope. The Drudgereport.

 

[Texmaster]

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<< << since when does bush represent the people and go with public opinion? >>

*sniff* smells like a troll >>






<< << He probably thinks mexico is a part of new mexico

He tries and he tries, but he doesnt have a clue what he is doing most of the time. >>

ah another troll. Listen kids, if you can't contribute on an intellectual level above 5 years old, dont post. >>



Texmaster, read what you have written here! me and jjsole post a comment about the topic of this thread, we mock Bush, you on the other hand start to act realy realy dumb and throw personal attacks against us two. Grow up! >>





I'm dumb?


All you did was take the childish approach instead of discussing the issue you take a shot a Bush without backing a word of it up.

very very childish. and trollike

 

[laFiera]

and canada's economy is not the greatest at this time..why aren't they crossign the border like mexicans? b/c mexico is plagued by a bunch of corrupt politicians and that's where they should concentrate their efforts in....improving their political system, which in return will help them to improve the working lives, and opportunities for their citizens.
If i go out and purposely infect myself with HIV, why should i demand for others to pay my hospital bills???



<< Mexico is a very important trading partner. Very very important. Second only to Canada. With Fox in charge their economy should move further and further along making them an even more valuable trading partner. If we can assist Mexico in coming out of the 3rd world then they will become our most important trading partner (larger population than canada and made in america is a good thing down there). It IS in our best interest to help mexico, how many $$$ do we spend patroling that border? If the Mexican economy can grow there will be no reason for mexican illegal aliencs to cross the border. >>

 

[Czar]

<< I'm dumb?


All you did was taking the childish approach instead of discussing the issue you take a shot a Bush without backing a word of it up.

very very childish. and trollike >>


First, learn how to read, I never said you were dumb, though if you want to have it like that then its up to you. I guess when you watch SNL you are shocked by all the childish approach and how they mock bush. You need to smile more and be happy, being depressing as you are is not healthy.

 

[Texmaster]

<< I'm dumb?


All you did was taking the childish approach instead of discussing the issue you take a shot a Bush without backing a word of it up.

very very childish. and trollike >>




<< First, learn how to read, I never said you were dumb, though if you want to have it like that then its up to you. >>




LOL Fine Mr. webster lets grab the quote:

""you on the other hand start to act realy realy dumb and throw personal attacks against us two. ""

Opps! Guess you need to go back and see what your evil fingers were doing when you wern't looking.



<< I guess when you watch SNL you are shocked by all the childish approach and how they mock bush. You need to smile more and be happy, being depressing as you are is not healthy. >>



Political jokes are split on SNL some are funny some arn't. You taking pot shots at bush was extremely childish and trollike when a serious issue was being discussed.

You want to be funny? Kep typng these pathetic explanations.

 

[StageLeft]

and canada's economy is not the greatest at this time..

AFAIK Canada's economy is doing better than the US's at this time...relatively at least. Course it still sucks

 

[Czar]

<< ""Bush, you on the other hand start to act realy realy dumb and throw personal attacks against us two. ""

Opps! Guess you need to go back and see what your evil fingers were doing when you wern't looking. >>



Ok read. "start to act realy dumb", people can act dumb without being dumb all the time. What I was saying is that your reactions where dumb. Val Kilmer "acted" as batman but that does not mean he is batman.





<< Political jokes are split on SNL some are funny some arn't. You taking pot shots at bush was extremely childish and trollike when a serious issue was being discussed.

You want to be funny? Kep typng these pathetic explanations. >>


I hope you have noticed that this forums is full of remarks like I did, they are all over the place and make the forum what it is.

Pot shots at bush, extremely childish and trolllike,.... I dont agree but want to read something that is childish, trolllike and a flamebait? your own damn thread posted 2 days ago! There you post about a issue that people should talk about yes, but you somehow start it by throwing your bait in the userdatabase So the ChickenSh-t Euros , expecting to haul in all the Europeans in there.

 

[Moonbeam]

Trolling again, I see, Texmaster. Even a dummy like Bush has, on occassions, to get something right. The kind of people who don't give3 a crap about immigration laws or waiting their turn, the kind of people who relish snubbing their noses at the people who they step over are just the kind of people who will go no to create bussines that power our economy and vote Republican. Listen to our leader guys. He knows more than you.

 

[Texmaster]

<< Trolling again, I see, Texmaster. Even a dummy like Bush has, on occassions, to get something right. The kind of people who don't give3 a crap about immigration laws or waiting their turn, the kind of people who relish snubbing their noses at the people who they step over are just the kind of people who will go no to create bussines that power our economy and vote Republican. Listen to our leader guys. He knows more than you. >>



LOL You moron I'm AGAINST Bush on this policy! Oh man read more carefully you troll.

 

[Texmaster]

<< Ok read. "start to act realy dumb", people can act dumb without being dumb all the time. What I was saying is that your reactions where dumb. Val Kilmer "acted" as batman but that does not mean he is batman. >>

[/i] >>




Oh I see I'm not dumb but my actions are right? LOL Spare us the Clintonesque splitting of hairs Czar. We all know what you meant. Its too bad you're not man enough to admit it.



<< I hope you have noticed that this forums is full of remarks like I did, they are all over the place and make the forum what it is. >>



You mean your trollike comments that add nothing to a discussion? No arugment here.



<< I dont agree but want to read something that is childish, trolllike and a flamebait? your own damn thread posted 2 days ago! There you post about a issue that people should talk about yes, but you somehow start it by throwing your bait in the userdatabase So the ChickenSh-t Euros , expecting to haul in all the Europeans in there. >>



And if you actaully took the time to READ that entire post, you would see I make fun of how rediculus it is to try to get people to apologize for their ancestors agresstions. If I had ended it with chickensh@t euros you might haave had a point but I went a lot furthur than just taking a shot at something. You just troll around and take cheap shots whenever you can. I back mine up.

 

[pcmodem]

Good morning,
This is all about votes for the next Congressional election...

According to the latest census figures there are approximately 35 million Hispanic Americans. This demographic largely votes Democratic.

The Republican Party is desperate enough for votes for the next election that they are considering things they normally would not, such as this Amnesty. Strategically, they hope that this could make Bush the next Lincoln and turn a traditional Democratic voting block into a Republican voting block.

However, this Amnestry issue also illustrates in neon lights the divisions within the Republican Party. Irrespective of any potential political advantage that could be realized by including Hispanics within their party, many Republican Party leaders have been widely quoted in various media sources as wanting a very limited Amnesty, more research before granting any sort of Amnesty, or flat out against Bush and saying absolutely no Amnesty.

It's surprising that the Bush White House does not have greater control over what his fellow Republicans are saying to the press. Or maybe these politicians are more concerned with getting re-elected at this point and less concerned with the overall Bush agenda.
-PCM

 

[Miramonti]

since when does bush represent the people and go with public opinion?

*sniff* smells like a troll

catering to public sentiment?

tax cuts - not. Most people didn't feel it was a good idea (and now we have a deficit)
prescription coverage - not (most would like to see medicare cover prescriptions for the elderly and not just discounting it)
expanded drilling in Alaska - not. (most are opposed to it)
handling the mideast - not (most are in favor of cracking down on israel more)
immigration - not

- troll

 

[Czar]

<< Oh I see I'm not dumb but my actions are right? LOL Spare us the Clintonesque splitting of hairs Czar. We all know what you meant. Its too bad you're not man enough to admit it. >>


err right, whatever


<< You mean your trollike comments that add nothing to a discussion? No arugment here. >>


ok, just mine are trolllike and no others then, you always attack my comments just because my views on the world differs from yours.


<< And if you actaully took the time to READ that entire post, you would see I make fun of how rediculus it is to try to get people to apologize for their ancestors agresstions. If I had ended it with chickensh@t euros you might haave had a point but I went a lot furthur than just taking a shot at something. You just troll around and take cheap shots whenever you can. I back mine up. >>


I read it all and it was a very good flamebait.

 

[MacBaine]

He probably thinks mexico is a part of new mexico

Whoa whoa whoa....hold on a second....there's a New Mexico now?

 

[Texmaster]

<< Good morning,
This is all about votes for the next Congressional election...

According to the latest census figures there are approximately 35 million Hispanic Americans. This demographic largely votes Democratic.

The Republican Party is desperate enough for votes for the next election that they are considering things they normally would not, such as this Amnesty. Strategically, they hope that this could make Bush the next Lincoln and turn a traditional Democratic voting block into a Republican voting block.

However, this Amnestry issue also illustrates in neon lights the divisions within the Republican Party. Irrespective of any potential political advantage that could be realized by including Hispanics within their party, many Republican Party leaders have been widely quoted in various media sources as wanting a very limited Amnesty, more research before granting any sort of Amnesty, or flat out against Bush and saying absolutely no Amnesty.

It's surprising that the Bush White House does not have greater control over what his fellow Republicans are saying to the press. Or maybe these politicians are more concerned with getting re-elected at this point and less concerned with the overall Bush agenda.
-PCM >>



Lets be fair, I don't know of any politican that isn't conscerned with re-election. The last poll showed that 70% of Mexican Americans do not vote and in Texas, Bush enjoyed a good percentage of the Mexican American vote. (38%) What he did here was purely based on politics and as shown, it blew up in his face because the majority of American citizins do not support it.

 

[Texmaster]

<< tax cuts - not. Most people didn't feel it was a good idea (and now we have a deficit) >>



You mean like the Democrats that voted FOR it? Do your homework.



<< prescription coverage - not (most would like to see medicare cover prescriptions for the elderly and not just discounting it)
expanded drilling in Alaska - not. (most are opposed to it) >>



Better be able to back that up. If it was so true, Clinton would not have been hit back so hard when he proposed the same thing to Congress by both parties.



<< handling the mideast - not (most are in favor of cracking down on israel more) >>



Again where did you get this?



<< immigration - not >>



I proved this already.

 

[Texmaster]

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<< Oh I see I'm not dumb but my actions are right? LOL Spare us the Clintonesque splitting of hairs Czar. We all know what you meant. Its too bad you're not man enough to admit it. >>


err right, whatever >>



Ah the sweet words of the educated. LOL



<< ok, just mine are trolllike and no others then, you always attack my comments just because my views on the world differs from yours. >>



I back up what I say. THATS the difference. You casually come into a conversation and take a shot. I'm just calling you on your maturity.




<< And if you actaully took the time to READ that entire post, you would see I make fun of how rediculus it is to try to get people to apologize for their ancestors agresstions. If I had ended it with chickensh@t euros you might haave had a point but I went a lot furthur than just taking a shot at something. You just troll around and take cheap shots whenever you can. I back mine up. >>




<< I read it all and it was a very good flamebait. >>



But I backed it up. Flamebait can have facts in it, your trolling is nothing but throwing out loose comments without backing them up.

 

[Czar]

<< << Oh I see I'm not dumb but my actions are right? LOL Spare us the Clintonesque splitting of hairs Czar. We all know what you meant. Its too bad you're not man enough to admit it. >>

err right, whatever >>

Ah the sweet words of the educated. LOL >>


Just to show you that I know what I wrote and I know what I meant by it, somehow you try to see what you want to see in it.



<< I back up what I say. THATS the difference. You casually come into a conversation and take a shot. I'm just calling you on your maturity. >>


You back up what you say with your views and you take them as facts.



<< But I backed it up. Flamebait can have facts in it, your trolling is nothing but throwing out loose comments without backing them up. >>


Like I said before, you backed them up with your viewpoints.

Now I´m out of this thread, its pointless.

 

[Moonbeam]

Texmaster, while you seem to imply that I'm a moron because I misunderstood which side of the issue you are on, it apparently is you who can't interpret very will. It happens, so it doesn't really make you the actual moron, just the one who misunderstands.

I am perfectly aware which side of the issue you are on. My statement was directed to that side. Allow me to interptet for you:

Trolling again, I see, Texmaster. (This refers to the fact that you are calling others trolls who voice different opinions. They were not troll posts. Find out what a troll is. Grow up and stop calling people names. You have a brain. Use it to refute what you think is wrong.)Even a dummy like Bush has, on occassions, to get something right. (This refers to the fact that while you may disagree with Bush, In fact, on this issue, he's right.) The kind of people who don't give a crap about immigration laws or waiting their turn, the kind of people who relish snubbing their noses at the people who they step over are just the kind of people who will go on to create bussines that power our economy and vote Republican. (This means that the kind of people you disparage, that Bush wants to give a free pass to, and whom you wish to deny, are your kind of people, the very people who once they get something for themselves would never want to shair it with anybody else, who will shut the door as soon as they get through.) Listen to our leader guys. He knows more than you. (This means that you shouldn't pick and choose what to agree with and what not to that springs from the genius of your glorious leader. You simply don't have the capacity to see his great segacity, but he is right and you are wrong.)

 

[Texmaster]

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<< << Oh I see I'm not dumb but my actions are right? LOL Spare us the Clintonesque splitting of hairs Czar. We all know what you meant. Its too bad you're not man enough to admit it. >>

err right, whatever >>

Ah the sweet words of the educated. LOL >>




<< Just to show you that I know what I wrote and I know what I meant by it, somehow you try to see what you want to see in it. >>



If you meant it to say nothing then why write it?



<< I back up what I say. THATS the difference. You casually come into a conversation and take a shot. I'm just calling you on your maturity. >>


You back up what you say with your views and you take them as facts. >>



Sorry no. Like this thread. I provided a link with the percentages of the people who disagree with Bush's blunder as I did with the European apology link.

Next time read more carefully.



<< But I backed it up. Flamebait can have facts in it, your trolling is nothing but throwing out loose comments without backing them up. >>


Like I said before, you backed them up with your viewpoints.

Now I´m out of this thread, its pointless.[/i] >>




Now there I would agree looking at it from your point of view! lol

 

[Texmaster]

<< Texmaster, while you seem to imply that I'm a moron because I misunderstood which side of the issue you are on, it apparently is you who can't interpret very will. It happens, so it doesn't really make you the actual moron, just the one who misunderstands. >>



So you are Still the Moron! LOL



<< I am perfectly aware which side of the issue you are on. My statement was directed to that side. Allow me to interptet for you: >>



More like allow me to correct where I screwed up the first time. Just use the EDIT button.



<< Trolling again, I see, Texmaster. (This refers to the fact that you are calling others trolls who voice different opinions. They were not troll posts. Find out what a troll is. Grow up and stop calling people names. You have a brain. Use it to refute what you think is wrong.) >>



A troll is a moron who comes in a takes pop shots without providing anything to back up their shots. Hence Czar.



<< Even a dummy like Bush has, on occassions, to get something right. (This refers to the fact that while you may disagree with Bush, In fact, on this issue, he's right.) >>



Breaking down each statement only makes you look desperate. So you are for blanket amnesty? What do you tell all the immigrants who have waited YEARS to go through all the red tape? Too bad?



<< The kind of people who don't give a crap about immigration laws or waiting their turn, the kind of people who relish snubbing their noses at the people who they step over are just the kind of people who will go on to create bussines that power our economy and vote Republican. (This means that the kind of people you disparage, that Bush wants to give a free pass to, and whom you wish to deny, are your kind of people, the very people who once they get something for themselves would never want to shair it with anybody else, who will shut the door as soon as they get through.) >>



You contridicted yourself at least twice! lol Boy now I agree with Etech. Whatever you're on, I want some.



<< Listen to our leader guys. He knows more than you. (This means that you shouldn't pick and choose what to agree with and what not to that springs from the genius of your glorious leader. You simply don't have the capacity to see his great segacity, but he is right and you are wrong.) >>



Picking and choosing what to agree with is the foundation for independent thought. I know you will never see the light but don't get mad just because the rest of us do.

 

[Moonbeam]

The contradictions are all figments of your imagination. Fore somebody who claims to back up what they say, you're amazing.

Please demonstrate the exact nature of these so called contradictions, if you wish to make such unsubstanciated aligations. The etech potshot is, of course, a perfect example of your definition of a troll, an incorrect definition, by the way. It is almost a universal law that that which we criticize in others is what we least like and don't see about ourselves. Welcome to the human race.