Bush wrecking opinion of the US abroad

[chazzheatherly]

The other morning, I am playing online Chess against a fellow from the UK.
I mention I am from Texas, US, and he says' "Bush country?"
I tell him yes, but I do not support the idiot.
He mentions that G.W. is ruining our support / image throughout the world.
The Eurpeans see us as warmongers and invaders.
G.W. 's private war is not only killing young Americans, it is killing
our PR rating - They think we support the idiot!
How do we restore our good name after G.W. dragged us through
the mud so badly?
Love to you all - Chazz
PS - Homer Simpson would make a better Pres than Bush, because Homer
only wants sprinkles on his doughnuts.....

 

[tallest1]

I'm guessing your source isn't Fox News

 

[chazzheatherly]

Ha, ha! Of course not, tallest. And my congrats on your excellent posts
Cheers, Chazz

 

[chazzheatherly]

Uhmmm - sprinkes!
quote by Homer

 

[Sunner]

This one has purple on it...
Purple is a friut.

 

[firewall]

How some people (always a minority) tarnish the image of a whole country, religion or race............

 

[chazzheatherly]

Amen!
I play these online chess games, and when I tell them that I am an American,
boy, that online chat stops.

Maybe President Dean can restore our image?

 

[Mrburns2007]

Other nations have always had a love/hate relationship with America. Truthfully I think Bush is doing a great job and showing strong leadership worldwide always has a strong negative reaction by other countries which are softer ( IE: more socialist ).

 

[chazzheatherly]

Hmm - wrecking the economy, blowing the Clinton surplus, and getting young people killed is good?
I would hate to see what you think is bad, Republican
Why don't you just blow your own head off, Republican? All of us would be grateful.
One less evil person in the world,

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
Hmm - wrecking the economy, blowing the Clinton surplus, and getting young people killed is good?
I would hate to see what you think is bad, Republican
Why don't you just blow your own head off, Republican? All of us would be grateful.
One less evil person in the world,

The economy was sliding into recession under Clinton, there was no surplus it was just a 10 year projection IF the economy continued to grow at the same rate which every enonomist said wouldn't happen. The war in Iraq is noble thing and could change the lives of future generations of Iraqi's.

 

[Pers]

noble? why doesn't he share his humanitarian effort with many other third world countries powered byevil dictators? I'm sure the entire African continent is a good place to start. Oh sh!t, i forgot that we dont' need their resources anymore. It's the 21st century, what we need now is oil. This new-age imperialism where we're 'liberating the iraqis' sounds an awful lot like the "white man's burden" of the past. YOu poor poor white people, always out to help others, never worried about your own good. God bless your self-righteous souls.

 

[Turkish]

good morning, and you just learned this?

 

[chazzheatherly]

That is like saying the Oak tree you drove your Hummer into was a 10 year projection -
not really there!
You Repubs are the most selfish, hateful, war - crazy bunch of loonatics I have ever encountered!

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: Pers
noble? why doesn't he share his humanitarian effort with many other third world countries powered byevil dictators? I'm sure the entire African continent is a good place to start. Oh sh!t, i forgot that we dont' need their resources anymore. It's the 21st century, what we need now is oil. This new-age imperialism where we're 'liberating the iraqis' sounds an awful lot like the "white man's burden." YOu poor poor white people, always out to help others, never worried about your own good. God bless your self-righteous souls.

Give it time there starting in Iraq and Afghanistan....

 

[Pers]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: Pers
noble? why doesn't he share his humanitarian effort with many other third world countries powered byevil dictators? I'm sure the entire African continent is a good place to start. Oh sh!t, i forgot that we dont' need their resources anymore. It's the 21st century, what we need now is oil. This new-age imperialism where we're 'liberating the iraqis' sounds an awful lot like the "white man's burden." YOu poor poor white people, always out to help others, never worried about your own good. God bless your self-righteous souls.

Give it time there starting in Iraq and Afghanistan....

what are they starting?

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
That is like saying the Oak tree you drove your Hummer into was a 10 year projection -
not really there!
You Repubs are the most selfish, hateful, war - crazy bunch of loonatics I have ever encountered!

There not hateful or selfish, don't let yourself be so blinded by your own idealism to think that somehow the Democrats are morally superior to the Republicans or vice a versa.

I happen to be Liberatarian so of course I support Liberty for all in whatever country they live.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Pers
noble? why doesn't he share his humanitarian effort with many other third world countries powered byevil dictators? I'm sure the entire African continent is a good place to start. Oh sh!t, i forgot that we dont' need their resources anymore. It's the 21st century, what we need now is oil. This new-age imperialism where we're 'liberating the iraqis' sounds an awful lot like the "white man's burden" of the past. YOu poor poor white people, always out to help others, never worried about your own good. God bless your self-righteous souls.

Thanks for throwing the race card into this by Lableing the all the white race as Imperlialist you bigot!

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
That is like saying the Oak tree you drove your Hummer into was a 10 year projection -
not really there!
You Repubs are the most selfish, hateful, war - crazy bunch of loonatics I have ever encountered!

There not hateful or selfish, don't let yourself be so blinded by your own idealism to think that somehow the Democrats are morally superior to the Republicans or vice a versa.

I happen to be Liberatarian but fully support the ousting of dicatators.

Good, then I'm sure you can also as an american fully respect and indeed support the ousting of democratic regimes by dictatorships, to want is to have...

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
That is like saying the Oak tree you drove your Hummer into was a 10 year projection -
not really there!
You Repubs are the most selfish, hateful, war - crazy bunch of loonatics I have ever encountered!

There not hateful or selfish, don't let yourself be so blinded by your own idealism to think that somehow the Democrats are morally superior to the Republicans or vice a versa.

I happen to be Liberatarian but fully support the ousting of dicatators.

Good, then I'm sure you can also as an american fully respect and indeed support the ousting of democratic regimes by dictatorships, to want is to have...

That doesn't even make sense...Dictators are the polar opposite of Liberty, they usually take it away.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
That is like saying the Oak tree you drove your Hummer into was a 10 year projection -
not really there!
You Repubs are the most selfish, hateful, war - crazy bunch of loonatics I have ever encountered!

There not hateful or selfish, don't let yourself be so blinded by your own idealism to think that somehow the Democrats are morally superior to the Republicans or vice a versa.

I happen to be Liberatarian so of course I support Liberty for all in whatever country they live.

As do I but it is not our place to Force them to comply with our beliefs. If a country such as Iraq wanted more liberty then it is up to the Iraqis to do something about it, not us. Sure we can support them financially but we shouldn't be doing the fighting and dying for their liberty, that should be their duty. I can assure you that if Bush predicated this war just based on the Liberation of the Iraqis he never would have had the overwhelming support for it from the American Public.

 

[Fencer128]

I happen to be Liberatarian so of course I support Liberty for all in whatever country they live.
As do I but it is not our place to Force them to comply with our beliefs. If a country such as Iraq wanted more liberty then it is up to the Iraqis to do something about it, not us. Sure we can support them financially but we shouldn't be doing the fighting and dying for their liberty, that should be their duty. I can assure you that if Bush predicated this war just based on the Liberation of the Iraqis he never would have had the overwhelming support for it from the American Public.

That is the most concise version of the anti-liberation-as-a-reason-for-war arguement I've yet heard. Given the above, the only way I can see for justifying the war is if you believe that Bush did have intelligence, that however flawed, was the most up to date and comprehensive available citing SH as having significant stockpiles of WMD.

Might I suggest that the civil uprising/war requried in the above would have been much more likely to occur given resolution of the Israel/Palestine conflict. If you take away the common enemy... After Iraq/Afghanistan this should be the top "war on terror" focus right now.

Cheers,

Andy

 

[Red Dawn]

That is the most concise version of the anti-liberation-as-a-reason-for-war arguement I've yet heard. Given the above, the only way I can see for justifying the war is if you believe that Bush did have intelligence, that however flawed, was the most up to date and comprehensive available citing SH as having significant stockpiles of WMD.

That's exactly how Bush and his merry band of Neocons sold this Military action to the American Public.Video Clips of a Handful of Iraqi Exiles pleading for the west to Liberate them did not and would not convince the American Public to put our nation in such a Precarious Position.

 

[chazzheatherly]

Where does Andy get Israel vs. Arab terrorists mixed up w/ Iraq?
I want some of what he is smoking!
Muslims hate and kill. What they hate, they kill. And Muslims hate
everything and everyone. So they kill everything and everyone.

 

[Fencer128]

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
Where does Andy get Israel vs. Arab terrorists mixed up w/ Iraq?
I want some of what he is smoking!
Muslims hate and kill. What they hate, they kill. And Muslims hate
everything and everyone. So they kill everything and everyone.

SH was only to happy to highlight Israel/Palestine as a reason to demonize the US. If you start taking away the external enemies that only leaves the enemies within. Very 1984.

Andy

ps I don't smoke

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
That is like saying the Oak tree you drove your Hummer into was a 10 year projection -
not really there!
You Repubs are the most selfish, hateful, war - crazy bunch of loonatics I have ever encountered!

There not hateful or selfish, don't let yourself be so blinded by your own idealism to think that somehow the Democrats are morally superior to the Republicans or vice a versa.

I happen to be Liberatarian so of course I support Liberty for all in whatever country they live.

As do I but it is not our place to Force them to comply with our beliefs. If a country such as Iraq wanted more liberty then it is up to the Iraqis to do something about it, not us. Sure we can support them financially but we shouldn't be doing the fighting and dying for their liberty, that should be their duty. I can assure you that if Bush predicated this war just based on the Liberation of the Iraqis he never would have had the overwhelming support for it from the American Public.

Like the Iraqi's had a chance in hell of beating Saddam and company, the shites tried to rise up after the first gulf war and because George Bush Sr and General Scwhartzkoft made some dumb decisions they were quickly defeated by Saddams Army.