Bush won't rule out attack on Iran

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EagleKeeper

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The concern is: will the reactor be used in the way that Iran claims or the way the NK claims?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aWgfUeqxceDo&refer=europe

Iran has agreed to return used nuclear fuel back to Russia. So sky is not falling. The less oil Iran uses to generate domestic electricity, the more oil they have to sell, and the lower the oil prices become. Also, hundreds of thousands of Russian nuclear industry workers will have jobs and be able to feed their families. Moving from fossil fuels to nuclear power is a good thing, IMO.
Didn't the US have an offer on the table at one point to do the same thing? Allow Iran to operate nuclear plants but they must return all used fuel back to the US?
 
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Originally posted by: phillyTIM
no - the countries in that region need to do what iran and syria have done - band together...form a union (like the EU or USSR)...and rise up against the outsiders (the US)

shove a nuke up george's cheney-whored-butt, make him run and laugh at him!

Yeah, that'll work, LOL.

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Originally posted by: phillyTIM
no, i believe that in another thread, people said that bush would never attack SA...

he won't now, even when al quaeda is known & proven to have a habitat in SA....bush is a hypocrite

people around here say bush won't attack because it would mean higher gas prices....boo hooo

Here's the scenario that would make sense:

1: "Mr. President! We know Usama is in Region-X, but he's got a lot of zealots with him and a ground attack would cost a lot of American soldiers lives to find him, and even then it's a maybe due to the terrain and our unfamiliarity with the area!"

2. "Alright, Neutron bomb the region and quarantine it until the radiation blows over."

Simple, to the point, and it provides inescapable death for Usama and his most trusted lieutenants/advisors/guards/soldiers. We've already let him get away once, we should take a much tougher position next time we think we have him cornered.

Jason
 
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
no, i believe that in another thread, people said that bush would never attack SA...

he won't now, even when al quaeda is known & proven to have a habitat in SA....bush is a hypocrite

people around here say bush won't attack because it would mean higher gas prices....boo hooo

No, many, including myself said we needed to invade SA first. That is the true home of Bin Laden and Terrorism. Also has a lot more Oil than Iraq.

Ah, so you're saying we could have killed two birds with one stone, eh? :) LOL. OK, I'd go for that.

Of course, I'm STILL waiting for us to kill the damn Iraqi's and take their oil so we can stop paying $2 a frickin' gallon, but whatever.

Jason
 
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Originally posted by: SuperTool
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aWgfUeqxceDo&refer=europe

Iran has agreed to return used nuclear fuel back to Russia. So sky is not falling. The less oil Iran uses to generate domestic electricity, the more oil they have to sell, and the lower the oil prices become. Also, hundreds of thousands of Russian nuclear industry workers will have jobs and be able to feed their families. Moving from fossil fuels to nuclear power is a good thing, IMO.

As long as all they want is power generation I am in complete agreement.

Jason
 

raildogg

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U.N. Says Iran Blocked Investigation of Nuclear Program

In addition, the I.A.E.A. said, Iran has turned down requests for further visits to a military base that the United States has identified as a possible nuclear research site, and it has flatly refused to provide information on so-called dual use technology that the I.A.E.A. has determined could be useful for uranium enrichment or conversion.
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"It's more evidence that the Iranians are unwilling to provide full disclosure."

Iran never let UN search all of its nuclear sites. There are many hidden sites where they could possibly make enrich uranium for weapons purposes.

 

Velk

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
no, i believe that in another thread, people said that bush would never attack SA...

he won't now, even when al quaeda is known & proven to have a habitat in SA....bush is a hypocrite

people around here say bush won't attack because it would mean higher gas prices....boo hooo

Here's the scenario that would make sense:

1: "Mr. President! We know Usama is in Region-X, but he's got a lot of zealots with him and a ground attack would cost a lot of American soldiers lives to find him, and even then it's a maybe due to the terrain and our unfamiliarity with the area!"

2. "Alright, Neutron bomb the region and quarantine it until the radiation blows over."

Simple, to the point, and it provides inescapable death for Usama and his most trusted lieutenants/advisors/guards/soldiers. We've already let him get away once, we should take a much tougher position next time we think we have him cornered.

Oh an excellent plan, with only one minor flaw.

When you go in after nuking a region and find that he wasn't actually there and you had bad information, claiming you did it to liberate the gamma radiation infested corpses littering the countryside is going to ring just a little hollow.

Besides, it's easy for you to say when it's Saudi Arabia, but what if you had 'really good info' that he was hiding on in the hills of west virginia ? Does nuking suddenly seem such a great solution ? If not, why ?

 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Nukes would not be used period.

Are you so certain about everything? Or just WMDs?

At the moment there are no plans to bomb Iran. The key term is at the moment.

Iran getting nuclear weapons is unacceptable, it will destablize even further an already destablized region. By getting nuclear weapons, Iran will prompt Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey to start nuclear weapons programs of their own. Arabs will not sit still and will want a nuclear deterrent of their own. That is not acceptable. Iranians parade their various versions of Shahab missiles and other weapons systems and on them, sometimes, there are slogans such as "Death to America" or a map of Israel on those missles.

Bush is being duped by everyone and he isn't aware of it.

There is a parallel between Neville Chamberlain and Bush. Remember, Bush went to Europe and met with Putin and came back claiming success. Holding a paper almost saying Russia is on our side. Putin, the next day signed a deal with Iran over the nuclear reactors and rods. Putin is developing Iran's nuclear fuel production, uranium enrichment. Neville went and met with Hitler and claimed success and the next day Hitler invaded his neighbors and started WW2.

Sigh.
 

raildogg

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Iran bans U.N. nuke visits on some sites

Right, peaceful purpose nuclear program. More BS from the Iranian mullah apologists. They are pursuing nukes so they could blackmail us in the future, just like Kim Il Jong.

Iran building 'nuclear storage tunnels'

What do you think they're building these tunnels that go far into the ground? To study the Quran?

They obviously don't want our bunker buster bombs to destroy their nuclear weapons. I fear that Israel is our only hope of destroying Iran's nuclear weapons program before it's too late. Some experts say that a nuclear strike is needed to destroy Iran's nuclear program. Who knows.

Diplomats say Iran building tunnels to hide nukes

There are underground tunnels in Isfahan that even the EU admits Iran is hiding some sites. The IAEA keeps saying that many sites were hidden from them. Heard of Natanz? Thats another site.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: conjur
Hmm...now the Bush admin is dabbling with offering Iran membership in the WTO???
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0228/dailyUpdate.html
are you against or for that? I'm just curious.

I think a peaceful solution is the best with Iran...military action on a country whose population is actually somewhat pro American would be idiotic.
I'm against the WTO as a whole, to be honest. But, if it's a carrot that prevents Iran from developing nuclear weapons, then I suppose I'm for it.