BUSH TO HOLD NEWS CONFERENCE TODAY!!!!

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
I could go on and on, but you'll probably just dismiss it all anyways

No, not really. Its fairly obvious that some portion of the populace wants us gone, and its fairly obvious that some portion thinks its ok to kill a soldier.

I'm just questioning the 85%/50% poll.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TallBill
its fairly obvious that some portion thinks its ok to kill a soldier.

Yeah maybe 1% of .01% other wise known as Fred Phelp's Church Group "God Hates Fags". Why did you even mention that, the percentage is so minute that it's not worth mentioning in any context of this discussion.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: OrByte

OK well you keep worrying about Polls and the rest of us will keep learning about the growing amount of evidence which supports our conclusions that America was misled into a war, that this administration doesn't know how to conclude the campaign in Iraq, that this administration is flirting with illegal torture, and with illegal spying.

the evidence is there, I don't know the facts either, but I am not going to turn a blind eye to this evidence and these actions.

I'm not worried about polls. I never made claims that such polls existed. But if someone decides to post something, they should be able to back it up, right?

right and you completely sidestepped my post, but you are right.

I didn't stepside your post. I replied by saying "I'm not worried about polls". In fact, I'm not worried about the possabillity of illegal torture or illegal spying. I'm not really a person to be worried to begin with though.

I know that people do shady stuff, especially people in power. But I also know that good and evil tend to even itself out over time.

But I'm not saying that anyone else shouldn't be worried though. Just find a balance. We cant freak out about everything.

not freak out!? where is the fun in that?!

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TallBill
its fairly obvious that some portion thinks its ok to kill a soldier.

Yeah maybe 1% of .01% other wise known as Fred Phelp's Church Group "God Hates Fags". Why did you even mention that, the percentage is so minute that it's not worth mentioning in any context of this discussion.

I meant, a portion of the Iraqi population.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: OrByte
not freak out!? where is the fun in that?!

touche

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TallBill
its fairly obvious that some portion thinks its ok to kill a soldier.

Yeah maybe 1% of .01% other wise known as Fred Phelp's Church Group "God Hates Fags". Why did you even mention that, the percentage is so minute that it's not worth mentioning in any context of this discussion.

I meant, a portion of the Iraqi population.

DOH!:laugh:

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TallBill
its fairly obvious that some portion thinks its ok to kill a soldier.

Yeah maybe 1% of .01% other wise known as Fred Phelp's Church Group "God Hates Fags". Why did you even mention that, the percentage is so minute that it's not worth mentioning in any context of this discussion.

I meant, a portion of the Iraqi population.

DOH!:laugh:

lol, but I did get a good chuckle out of your response.

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: techs
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051219/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

A 10:30am news conference? Unheard of. I guess he is hoping not many people see it and that the sound bites will be played on the evening news.
Also, isn't this like the first news conference in 1.5 years????
Obviously by not announcing it til the last minute then holding it at 10:30 am the Bushies are trying to slip it past us as unoticed as possible.

Yea, ok lmao.

 

[conjur]

So, the Propagandist is pissed that bin Laden's satellite phone use monitoring was leaked some years ago? Well, it was leaked by the conservative, Rev. Moon-owned Washington Times:

http://cnparm.home.texas.net/911/Backg/Backg3b.htm

The conservative Washington Times reports that the NSA has been intercepting bin Laden's satellite telephone calls. The Times leak has disastrous effects - Bin Laden promptly stops using the phone and the NSA loses the ability to monitor his communications and whereabouts, although Afghan CIA agents are sometimes able to track his location.

And, he's pissed that the NY Times exposed his sordid little trashing of the Constitution and called it damaging to national security? Well, whatever happened to the tons of info this admin had prior to 9/11?

Had bin Laden/Al Qaeda intercepts on 9/10
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/06/20/911.warning

And then all of this:
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:0cyu...ked+satellite+phone+leaked+press&hl=en

Early September 2001: Bin Laden's Intercepted Phone Calls Discuss an Operation in the US Around 9/11 Date Complete 911 Timeline
According to British inside sources, ?shortly before September 11,? bin Laden contacts an associate thought to be in Pakistan. The conversation refers to an incident that will take place in the US on, or around 9/11, and discusses possible repercussions. In another conversation, bin Laden contacts an associate thought to be in Afghanistan. They discuss the scale and effect of a forthcoming operation; bin Laden praises his colleague for his part in the planning. Neither conversation specifically mentions the WTC or Pentagon, but investigators have no doubt the 9/11 attacks were being discussed. The British government has obliquely made reference to these intercepts: ?There is evidence of a very specific nature relating to the guilt of bin Laden and his associates that is too sensitive to release.? These intercepts haven't been made public in British Prime Minister Tony Blair's presentation of al-Qaeda's guilt because ?releasing full details could compromise the source or method of the intercepts.?
People and organizations involved: al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, Tony Blair

September 6, 2001: Bin Laden Allegedly Informed of Exact Attack Date Complete 911 Timeline
According to a later interview with would-be hijacker Ramzi Bin al-Shibh, a courier sent by bin al-Shibh tells bin Laden on this day when the 9/11 attacks will take place. However, there are doubts about this interview (see April, June, or August 2002).
People and organizations involved: Osama bin Laden, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh

September 9, 2001: Osama Tells His Stepmother That Big News Will Come in Two Days Complete 911 Timeline
It is later reported that on this day, bin Laden calls his stepmother and says, ?In two days, you're going to hear big news and you're not going to hear from me for a while.? US officials later tell CNN that ?in recent years they've been able to monitor some of bin Laden's telephone communications with his mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded.? Stepmother Al-Khalifa bin Laden, who raised Osama bin Laden after his natural mother died, is apparently waiting in Damascus, Syria, to meet Osama there, so he calls to cancel the meeting. They had met periodically in recent years. Before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother. The next day government officials say about the call, ?I would view those reports with skepticism.?
People and organizations involved: National Security Agency, Osama bin Laden, Al-Khalifa bin Laden

September 10, 2001: Intelligence Intercepts Show al-Qaeda Agents Ordered to Return to Afghanistan by This Date Complete 911 Timeline
In a major post-9/11 speech, British Prime Minister Tony Blair claims that ?shortly before September 11, bin Laden told associates that he had a major operation against America under preparation, a range of people were warned to return back to Afghanistan because of action on or around September 11.? His claims come from a British document of telephone intercepts and interrogations revealing al-Qaeda orders to return to Afghanistan by September 10. However, Blair may have the direction incorrect, since would-be hijacker Ramzi Bin al-Shibh later claims that he is the one who passes to bin Laden the date the attacks will happen and warns others to evacuate.
People and organizations involved: Osama bin Laden, Tony Blair, al-Qaeda, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh

September 11, 2001: Planned Rice Speech on Threats Contains No Mention of al-Qaeda Complete 911 Timeline
National Security Adviser Rice is scheduled to deliver a speech claiming to address ?the threats and problems of today and the day after, not the world of yesterday.? The speech is never given due to the 9/11 attacks earlier in the day, but the text is later leaked to the media. The Washington Post calls the speech ?telling Insight into the administration's thinking? because it promotes missile defense and contains no mention of al-Qaeda, bin Laden, or Islamic extremist groups. The only mention of terrorism is in the context of the danger of rogue nations such as Iraq. In fact, there are almost no public mentions of bin Laden or al-Qaeda by Bush or other top Bush administration officials before 9/11, and the focus instead is on missile defense.
People and organizations involved: Osama bin Laden, Condoleezza Rice, Bush administration, Central Intelligence Agency, al-Qaeda

This "speech" today was nothing more than "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. We're doing this for your protection. Shut up and trust us."

 

[BBond]

I'd like to point out to Bush and the American public, as Bush continues to claim that the loss of our constitutional rights is necessary to protect us from dangerous people who are *still out there*, that if Bush had in fact went into Afghanistan and Pakistan after 9/11 quickly and with sufficient force to wipe out al Qaeda's leadership instead of waiting months and then sending in a force so small that they had to rely on local "warlords" to botch the job, if Bush hadn't then gone off into the quagmire he created for absolutely no reason in Iraq, that perhaps there wouldn't be so manh of those dangerous people *still out there*.

Bush's ability to lie with a straight face is exceeded only by his incompetence. But I do understand the coorelation between the two. Championship lying is a prerequisite for covering up championship incompetence.

 

[Sysbuilder05]

Originally posted by: Jmman
Osama was captured...🙂

Interesting,yeah they might have pulled him out of his cell somewhere and em..."captured" him real quick like. Or maybe he just hangs out at the Crawford ranch....