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Bush Pardon Watch:11-24 14 pardoned, many more to come

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Infohawk
why is he pardoning frauds?
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Because maybe there are more details than what is provided in the one sentence.
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Most pardons come via a Congressional staffer.
they provide a package to their boss who reviews and forwards it to the President.
The WH staff review and make a recommendation to the Peesident.

Very few times will the President actually know of or even met the perp.

 
Originally posted by: Corbett
I REALLY hope Bush pardon's the Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compeon.
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Just wondering why so many of you expect to see these two agents pardoned. Yes, they shot an alleged drug dealer at the border, but 1) the guy was unarmed, 2) they shot him from behind while he was running, 3) they fired 15 times and tried to cover up the incident.

I have no love for this Mexican scum drug dealer, but the cover up part I have a problem with -- as I do shooting someone in the back (got hit in the ass I think), which is cowardly. That makes these clowns typical dirty cops. Sorry, not exactly pardon material here. I don't think it's practical nor legal to have a 'shoot on sight' policy for illegals, as much as I'd LIKE to see terminators patrolling our border.
 
Originally posted by: brencat
Originally posted by: Corbett
I REALLY hope Bush pardon's the Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compeon.
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Just wondering why so many of you expect to see these two agents pardoned. Yes, they shot an alleged drug dealer at the border, but 1) the guy was unarmed, 2) they shot him from behind while he was running, 3) they fired 15 times and tried to cover up the incident.

I have no love for this Mexican scum drug dealer, but the cover up part I have a problem with -- as I do shooting someone in the back (got hit in the ass I think), which is cowardly. That makes these clowns typical dirty cops. Sorry, not exactly pardon material here. I don't think it's practical nor legal to have a 'shoot on sight' policy for illegals, as much as I'd LIKE to see terminators patrolling our border.
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Because they remind me of Jack Bauer.😀
 
It reads like a list of donors for the GWB Presidential Library fund.

Oh wait, it is :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: JS80
_Ronald Alan Mohrhoff of Los Angeles, who was convicted for unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony.
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lol wtf kind of conviction is that?
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Could be why it's getting pardoned

Dave is just mad cause he never got his pardon from loading SETI on his clients computers.
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:laugh:
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LOL
 
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Corbett
I REALLY hope Bush pardon's the Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compeon.
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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:thumbsup: indeed.

I'd have pardoned them way before getting to all the other ones.

Of course with no consequenses to deal with and no chance of review/reversal, there would be a lot of folks I'd provide with a nifty presidential get out of jail free card......
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
That's the point.

The Georgia guy probably paid more than $10,000 in lawyer costs to petition Bush for the pardon.

Try reading and learning before posting.
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Oh, the irony.

 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Looks like anyone that can afford mega lawyer costs get a pass.

Obie Gene Helton of Rossville, Ga., whose offense was unauthorized acquisition of food stamps.
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I'm sure he had an AWESOME lawyer Dave.
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You have any idea on what's involved and how much it costs?
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Bush Pardons Rossville Man On 25-Year-Old Food Stamp Conviction
posted November 24, 2008

A Rossville, Ga., man is one of 14 people whose presidential pardons were announced Monday by the U.S. Justice Department.

Obie Gene Helton was sentenced April 1, 1983, to two years probation for unauthorized acquisition of food stamps. He was fined $500 and ordered to pay $875 in restitution, according to information provided by the Justice Department.

Yeah he sounds like a high roller. I'm sure he's backed by some of the best lawyers Georgia has to offer. And he must have Washington in his pockets. Most people I know going for food stamps are high rollers too. :roll:
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That's the point.

The Georgia guy probably paid more than $10,000 in lawyer costs to petition Bush for the pardon.

Try reading and learning before posting.
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You go first 🙂
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Looks like anyone that can afford mega lawyer costs get a pass.

Obie Gene Helton of Rossville, Ga., whose offense was unauthorized acquisition of food stamps.
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I'm sure he had an AWESOME lawyer Dave.
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You have any idea on what's involved and how much it costs?
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Bush Pardons Rossville Man On 25-Year-Old Food Stamp Conviction
posted November 24, 2008

A Rossville, Ga., man is one of 14 people whose presidential pardons were announced Monday by the U.S. Justice Department.

Obie Gene Helton was sentenced April 1, 1983, to two years probation for unauthorized acquisition of food stamps. He was fined $500 and ordered to pay $875 in restitution, according to information provided by the Justice Department.

Yeah he sounds like a high roller. I'm sure he's backed by some of the best lawyers Georgia has to offer. And he must have Washington in his pockets. Most people I know going for food stamps are high rollers too. :roll:
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That's the point.

The Georgia guy probably paid more than $10,000 in lawyer costs to petition Bush for the pardon.

Try reading and learning before posting.
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People trying to get food stamps have $10,000 to cover lawyer fees? Jesus what world are you from? Please tell me where he got his $10,000 from and how you know he dumped all this money into a lawyer? without that you are just spewing ASSumptions as usual.

Instead of loading SETI up maybe you should make contact with reality first.
 
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Looks like anyone that can afford mega lawyer costs get a pass.

Obie Gene Helton of Rossville, Ga., whose offense was unauthorized acquisition of food stamps.
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I'm sure he had an AWESOME lawyer Dave.
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You have any idea on what's involved and how much it costs?
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Bush Pardons Rossville Man On 25-Year-Old Food Stamp Conviction
posted November 24, 2008

A Rossville, Ga., man is one of 14 people whose presidential pardons were announced Monday by the U.S. Justice Department.

Obie Gene Helton was sentenced April 1, 1983, to two years probation for unauthorized acquisition of food stamps. He was fined $500 and ordered to pay $875 in restitution, according to information provided by the Justice Department.

Yeah he sounds like a high roller. I'm sure he's backed by some of the best lawyers Georgia has to offer. And he must have Washington in his pockets. Most people I know going for food stamps are high rollers too. :roll:
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That's the point.

The Georgia guy probably paid more than $10,000 in lawyer costs to petition Bush for the pardon.

Try reading and learning before posting.
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People trying to get food stamps have $10,000 to cover lawyer fees? Jesus what world are you from? Please tell me where he got his $10,000 from and how you know he dumped all this money into a lawyer? without that you are just spewing ASSumptions as usual.

Instead of loading SETI up maybe you should make contact with reality first.
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I don't know how the guy got his pardon, but the food stamp conviction was 25 years ago.
 
Bush has given far fewer pardons than most Presidents, for better or worse. I tend to think Presidents should be prohibited from pardoning anyone in the last six months of their presidency, and certainly not during the period between the election and the inauguration. If they're only doing it late because they face no political repercussions, they shouldn't be able to do it at all.
 
it was dnet not seti, damnit!

iirc, one of the charges actually turned on the small chance of winning a small prize in the dnet contest. seti has no similar prize.


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local pardon

seems like there is a set procedure for pardoning, i imagine the pardon attorney is the one that makes the recommendation for pardoning.
 
IIRC GWB has the fewest pardons, although thats irrelevant. I dont know if any of his pardons would be juicy as the likes of Bush Sr's pardon of six guys in the iran contra ordeal (Casper Weinberger!), OR Clintons pardon of his own brother, Susan McDougal, and that billionaire fugitive guy. That was juicy news.
 
Dave, how about you take a look at Clinton's pardons, while you're at it. Oh wait, you're an idiot partisan hack. Never mind.
 
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: manowar821
Pardons are bullshit, and so are half the posters here.
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Says the reject conspiracy theorist.
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Hey, what do conspiracy theories have to do with presidential pardons being bullshit?

Anyway, case in point.

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
it was dnet not seti, damnit!

iirc, one of the charges actually turned on the small chance of winning a small prize in the dnet contest. seti has no similar prize.


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local pardon

seems like there is a set procedure for pardoning, i imagine the pardon attorney is the one that makes the recommendation for pardoning.
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Nope, it was SETI@Home. I was running it on ~100 clients at work (*) at the time as well.

*Note - I had approval from management. When the company changed ownership so did management and they did not approve so I removed the client.
 
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