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Bush Lead Thread:8-12-04 AOL poll: Bush wins in landslide

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dmcowen674

No Lifer
Amazing how on same day as Poll comes out showing Kerry in the lead in Key Battle Ground States that this poll comes out saying Bush easily wins 48 States in a Landslide:

8-12-2004 AOL poll: Bush wins in landslide

In what some political observers might view as shocking news, a poll of America Online members is currently forecasting a landslide victory for President Bush, who collects 48 of the 50 states in this year's electoral race.

Bush takes a whopping 58 percent of the popular vote compared to 40 percent for Sen. John Kerry and 2 percent for Ralph Nader.

According to AOL's electoral map of the United States, there's a massive sea of red marked in favor of the Republican president, while only two states ? Connecticut and Vermont, along with the District of Columbia ? are marked in blue for the Democrat from Massachusetts.

That's a total of just 13 electoral votes for Kerry, compared to 525 for Bush. The magic number of electoral votes to win the White House is 270 .

AOL's giant red map is reminiscent of the USA Today map showing results from the presidential race four years ago, where Bush won the electoral vote, despite losing the popular vote to Al Gore.

A Gallup survey following the recent Democratic convention had Bush receiving 50 percent support among likely voters, and Kerry with 47 percent.
 
LOL. Wait ignorant people pick Bush in a landslide? Grats Bush, too bad Bush thinks AOL has something to do with him not showing up for duty in Alabama.
 
Originally posted by: Todd33
LOL. Wait ignorant people pick Bush in a landslide? Grats Bush, too bad Bush thinks AOL has something to do with him not showing up for duty in Alabama.
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It's estimated that AOL still has around 22 million active users. Down from high of 35 million a few years back but that's still a lot of people. Of course many of them are under 18 so can't vote anyway.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Todd33
LOL. Wait ignorant people pick Bush in a landslide? Grats Bush, too bad Bush thinks AOL has something to do with him not showing up for duty in Alabama.
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It's estimated that AOL still has around 22 million active users. Down from high of 35 million a few years back but that's still a lot of people. Of course many of them are under 18 so can't vote anyway.
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And those OVER 18 have the intelligence of rocks.

I can't tell you how many people still subscribe to AOL dial-up when they have broadband because they think they still need AOL to surf the Internet.

Mind-boggling.
 
That sample group is extremely biased.

First, it favours those with money, since a computer is a prerequisite for entry.

Second, AOL is for those users who favour censorship from the darker corners of the net over speed. Likely a right-wing bias.

Third, since AOL is technically inferior to most other providers, and markets itself based on it's customer support, it biases against those who see themselves as modern, or are forward-thinking.

Next attempt. Unless you realized all that and this whole thread is ironic. I could see that, and if that's the case, kudos. Ya got me. If it isn't, please go read statistics for dummies.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Amazing how on same day as Poll comes out showing Kerry in the lead in Key Battle Ground States that this poll comes out saying Bush easily wins 48 States in a Landslide:

8-12-2004 AOL poll: Bush wins in landslide

In what some political observers might view as shocking news, a poll of America Online members is currently forecasting a landslide victory for President Bush, who collects 48 of the 50 states in this year's electoral race.

Bush takes a whopping 58 percent of the popular vote compared to 40 percent for Sen. John Kerry and 2 percent for Ralph Nader.

According to AOL's electoral map of the United States, there's a massive sea of red marked in favor of the Republican president, while only two states ? Connecticut and Vermont, along with the District of Columbia ? are marked in blue for the Democrat from Massachusetts.

That's a total of just 13 electoral votes for Kerry, compared to 525 for Bush. The magic number of electoral votes to win the White House is 270 .

AOL's giant red map is reminiscent of the USA Today map showing results from the presidential race four years ago, where Bush won the electoral vote, despite losing the popular vote to Al Gore.

A Gallup survey following the recent Democratic convention had Bush receiving 50 percent support among likely voters, and Kerry with 47 percent.
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Please tell me that you aren't taking this AOL poll seriously, please. I mean, when people start taking AOL polls seriously, you know we're f'ed.
 
Kerry has taken a couple more states and is up to 111 electoral votes.

In any case, there are already 40000 votes polled. I'd assume both parties will at least take a look at the final result.
 
OMG, BuSh t3h LeIk ThIs OwNz j00!!!?! w00t KeRrY iS lIkE tOtAlLy A lLaMa aNd SuX0rS. PhJ34r mY l33t haXx0r tEkNiQ. L8r.
 
How many "pimply faced kids" do you think bother participating in such a poll? This is amusing really, Kerry fans don't like the results and resort to bashing AOL users.
 
I think it more likely that this poll was mentioned in some sort of Republican mailing list or something rather than actually being reflective of AOL users. The poll only has 40K voters and some mailing lists are bigger than that.

In the AOL poll, Kerry only wins California by 1% which cannot possibly be representative of Californian AOL users.
 
Do you guys remember when some nerfhead at AOL sold millions of screennames to spammers? IIRC, that guy wasn't in the top of the IT ladder. I wonder how high on the sysadmin staff you would have to be to get write access to text file where the results are being kept?
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Todd33
LOL. Wait ignorant people pick Bush in a landslide? Grats Bush, too bad Bush thinks AOL has something to do with him not showing up for duty in Alabama.
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It's estimated that AOL still has around 22 million active users. Down from high of 35 million a few years back but that's still a lot of people. Of course many of them are under 18 so can't vote anyway.
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And those OVER 18 have the intelligence of rocks.

I can't tell you how many people still subscribe to AOL dial-up when they have broadband because they think they still need AOL to surf the Internet.

Mind-boggling.
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Another reason to hate AOL and think that the people who still subscribe to AOL are idiots.
 
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
How many "pimply faced kids" do you think bother participating in such a poll? This is amusing really, Kerry fans don't like the results and resort to bashing AOL users.
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No need to bask AOL users, but even you have to admit this is far from scientific. Its not a random sample at all.
 
Originally posted by: glenn1
OMG, BuSh t3h LeIk ThIs OwNz j00!!!?! w00t KeRrY iS lIkE tOtAlLy A lLaMa aNd SuX0rS. PhJ34r mY l33t haXx0r tEkNiQ. L8r.
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LMFAO!! 😀😀

Thanks glenn1

:beer:
 
Go check out MSNBC's poll about "Who would you vote for if the election were today"?

Kerry is leading GWB by a 17% margin (57% vs. 40%)... with 369,023 voters... on a NON-SCIENTIFIC survey.

GWB is winning AOL's poll with a little over 34,000 voters.... on a NON-SCIENTIFIC survey.

So let's combine the two, since we're talking about NON-SCIENTIFIC surveys and trying to put some validity to it.... 😉


Kerry: 210,343 MSNBC + 13,600 AOL = 223,943 Total Votes = 55.57% of the Total Votes

Bush: 147,609 MSNBC + 19,720 AOL = 167,329 Total Votes = 41.52% of the Total Votes

Nader: 11,071 MSNBC + 680 AOL = 11,751 Total Votes = 2.91% of the Total Votes


Ok, so what does all these beautiful numbers prove in this combination of two non-scientific surveys....

NOTHING!

:laugh:
 
AOL ?

Adolecents On Librium ?

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59072-2004Aug12.html">Last thing I saw about the 'Youth Vote' is that those under 30 opposed Bush
and favored Kerry by a 3:1 margin, 67% going to Kerry</a>
(Washington Post)
<CLIP>

Of course it would never happen like this, but it should: President Bush and political guru Karl Rove are enjoying a quiet evening together in the private quarters of the White House. Suddenly, Rove looks up in horror from his computer printouts and asks:

"George . . . where are the kids?"

Where, indeed. And we're not talking about Jenna Bush or her sister Barbara, but millions of other younger voters who supported Bush in 2000 but currently plan to vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry.

Surveys suggest that Bush's popularity has plummeted among 18- to 29-year-olds in the past four months, posing a new obstacle to the president's bid to win reelection and an immediate challenge to Republicans seeking to win over impressionable and lightly committed young people during their upcoming convention.

Four years ago, network exit polls found that Bush and Democrat Al Gore split the vote of 18- to 29-year-olds, with Gore claiming 48 percent and Bush getting 46 percent -- the best showing by a Republican presidential candidate in more than a decade.

But that was then. In the latest Post-ABC News poll taken immediately after the Democratic convention, Kerry led Bush 2-1 among registered voters younger than 30. Among older voters, the race was virtually tied.
 
Originally posted by: Kibbo
That sample group is extremely biased.

First, it favours those with money, since a computer is a prerequisite for entry.

Second, AOL is for those users who favour censorship from the darker corners of the net over speed. Likely a right-wing bias.

Third, since AOL is technically inferior to most other providers, and markets itself based on it's customer support, it biases against those who see themselves as modern, or are forward-thinking.

Next attempt. Unless you realized all that and this whole thread is ironic. I could see that, and if that's the case, kudos. Ya got me. If it isn't, please go read statistics for dummies.
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LOL!! nothing like using contradictory arguments. Those are about the lamest arguments for discounting the poll you could have come up with.

1) typically people with little money use AOL rather than try to come up with $40 a month for broadband.

2) LOL! As has been clearly established over and over AOL users are typically not as technically inclined as say the enthusiast community here at AT to somehow equate this with favoring censorship and right wing bias is unsupportable. You are a grade A fool if you honestly believe that. Fact is My experience is that there is an inordinately large number of liberal minded people using AOL.

3) Six or Seven years ago it was a hallmark of the Modern, forward thinking individual at least in the perceptions of the majority of the public at that time.

Only thing ironic i have see here is your 3 lame points and the fact you actually seem to think they are good ones.

This poll has 1 major glaring negative. It isn't really a poll it is a survey and has no controls concerning the respondents. It is unscientific which isn't to say it is necessarily wrong only that there are no controls to assure an accurate result. That Kibbo should have been your argument not those 3 rubbish points you put out there.
 
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