Bush, Jesus, and Easter blessings
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Just kidding . . .
marking the holiday
"America mourns those who have been called home and we pray that their families will find God's comfort and God's grace," the President said. "His purposes are not always clear to us, yet this season brings a promise: that good can come out of evil, that hope can arise from despair."
Bush, who speaks of the power of prayer and has hinted at God's "divine plan," recalled the battlefield loss of Cpl. Henry Brown, a 22-year-old soldier from Mississippi, and the words of the soldier's best friend Frank Woods.
"He believed God was working through him and he was part of the plan. I guess part of the plan now is God calling his soldier home," Bush quoted Woods as saying.
And for those who pray to Allah . . . too bad . . . our God gave us better weapons . . . and a just cause.
marking the holiday
"America mourns those who have been called home and we pray that their families will find God's comfort and God's grace," the President said. "His purposes are not always clear to us, yet this season brings a promise: that good can come out of evil, that hope can arise from despair."
Bush, who speaks of the power of prayer and has hinted at God's "divine plan," recalled the battlefield loss of Cpl. Henry Brown, a 22-year-old soldier from Mississippi, and the words of the soldier's best friend Frank Woods.
"He believed God was working through him and he was part of the plan. I guess part of the plan now is God calling his soldier home," Bush quoted Woods as saying.
And for those who pray to Allah . . . too bad . . . our God gave us better weapons . . . and a just cause.
really, seems to be his essence...
On the religous news, traditional pilgrimages which were strictly controlled and mostly prohibited under Saddam resumed this weekend in Iraq, don't think they don't appreciate the FREEDOM to practice their religion freely and without presecution.
No troll . . . for anyone that has even the faintest notion of what it means to be a Christian . . . Bush is an absolute abomination. Bush proselytizes but his actions are as close to Christ-like as Osama is to the central tenets of Islam.
This war had nothing to do with sacrifice for God's will or a divine plan. Just another one of humankind's BS endeavors looking for justification. Does anyone really think Christ/God is calling home his righteous warriors?
He said the United States "continues to pray for all who serve in our military and those who remain in harm's way."
Why not just pray for all mankind . . . like a real Christian? Hell ain't hot b/c it's close to the core . . . it's hot b/c it's full.
This war had nothing to do with sacrifice for God's will or a divine plan. Just another one of humankind's BS endeavors looking for justification. Does anyone really think Christ/God is calling home his righteous warriors?
He said the United States "continues to pray for all who serve in our military and those who remain in harm's way."
Why not just pray for all mankind . . . like a real Christian? Hell ain't hot b/c it's close to the core . . . it's hot b/c it's full.
Hardly. I'd say it's frustration born out of a knowledge that this country is capable of much greater things than we are curently accomplishing.
Your posts on the other hand are more reminiscent of Homer Simpson, sitting on the couch chanting USA! USA! USA!. Same breadth of knowledge, same base ignorance, pathetic one and all.
When you've contributed a tenth of what Doc contributes around here then you can start running your mouth. Until then I suggest you shut up, read, and try to learn something. Yours is the essence that needs changing.
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you come off as the troll here to me Ultra Quiet, BaliBabyDoc obviously wanted to make his point so he started a thread to do so. then you come in and add nothing to the discussion but a verbal attack.
and yes BaliBabyDoc, i too find much irony in the administrations talk of god. it rather makes one wonder what alleged "god" is presideing over the White House.
And you know this how? U = Jeebus?
True, I don't agree with Bush as a real Christian, but he's got his beliefs, and we got ours.
Maybe because he wants to be perceived for what he is. The American President, not the Pope. GW doesn't appear to be any different than any other Christian. Pray for the causes that are important to you and hypocritical to the end.
I'm a christian, and I don't pray like that. Ya' think that maybe you overgeneralizing there just a bit.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Maybe just a bit
Bush is good man, despite his flaws, and I'd bet he'd do more to protect and help America's citizens than 99% of us.
CkG
Really, find a link that he has provided that is not basically a trolling attempt or biased information to support his anti-bush views, maybe I should try your approach and just attack anothers intellect.
Yours come through loud and clear as well. Personally I think the man if a doofus and probably has little input, the less the better for all of us.
Funny, today in Iraq pilgrimages outlawed or strictly limited under Saddam went on freely and Iraqi's used their newfound freedom to express their Islamic religion, thanks to said doofus's decisions. Afghanistan is Islamic in nature as well, we have freed them twice from oppression, once from the Soviets, once from the Taliban and their new buddies AL-Queeda.
I doubt you looked very hard. And for the last time . . . I am not anti-Bush . . . I just hate his policy and proselytizing. You could certainly try attacking my intellect. If you like we can limit it to PM . . . public evisceration can get messy.
Iraq was one of the few Muslim societies that had the semblance of a secular culture. They were amongst the best educated (men and women) in the region. Saddam was a POS but most Iraqis were not prohibited from practicing their religion . . . various minority groups from Coptics to Jews could practice without fear of an oppressive theocratic regime. Saddam typically put the clamps on clerics who didn't endorse his regime . . . otherwise he only cracked down on those linked to the Shia or Iran. Saddam might have forbidden pilgrimages b/c he justifiably feared mass movements of people within the country . . . most despots are a touch paranoid.
America freed Afghanistan from the Soviets? Who are we going to free next . . . Tibet?
Happy Holidays and may God, Allah, Yaweh, Buddha bless the whole world . . . particularly those who didn't get their share last year . . . or the last decade.
Exactly, Tariq Aziz is a Christian, so what are you saying the Iraqi's had no religious freedom Alistar? It's propbably the only country in the ME that was somewhat religiously tolerant, lets hope is stays that way. As for Afghanistan, we never free them from the Soviets, get your facts straight, we armed them to fight our enemy and then abandoned them to anarchy.
Go dig up my posts. Sure, I may on occasion get a little overzealous . . . but often it is an attempt to substitute fact (Bush has a track record of incompetence in personal affairs, business affairs, and as a politician) for fiction (Bush is a heralded servant of Christ, has beaucoup business acumen, and is the patron saint of political leadership).
I don't know the man personally . . . so it's nearly impossible for me to dislike him. Now his policy I hate with a vengeance. Our systems of education and healthcare are on the verge of a collapse . . . not for the wealthy mind you . . . but for the rest of America. What does Bush offer . . . standardized testing and tort reform?! I thought Clinton's policies were poo poo, too. But Clinton at least had a clue . . . Bush is blinded by his self-righteousness and his ignorance.
As for this thread . . . I think of the wonderful message that Easter brings to Christians (and to all people willing to listen) . . . and then I see our President parading around military bases talking about sacrifice . . . he doesn't know the meaning of the word. I'm not sure the Democrats are significantly better. Hence, the world will now be held captive to a small number of people (US big biz + Murdoch + in-crowd US pols) who think might makes right . . . or when in doubt . . . say it's part of 'God's plan'.
We didn't defend the museums and libraries b/c WE DID NOT CARE. The US government has no respect for Iraqi culture. Bush/Blair talked about how Iraqis were "great people with wonderful culture" . . . I bet Bush couldn't spell Mesopotamia much less find it on a map. So do I think Bush is incompetent . . . YES.
Ignorant . . . YES.
A danger to the long term financial and physical security of America . . . YES.
Would I refuse an invitation to ride around his ranch in is F-250 SuperDuty . . . NO. He's probably a decent guy . . . then again Assad is probably a decent guy, too. Khatami is probably a decent guy . . . the Ayatollah has issues. The world is not the black and white Etch-A-Sketch Bush and the Bush Leaguers believe . . . it is more of a montage. The problem is the whole world will pay the price for his ignorance and avarice.
I don't know the man personally . . . so it's nearly impossible for me to dislike him. Now his policy I hate with a vengeance. Our systems of education and healthcare are on the verge of a collapse . . . not for the wealthy mind you . . . but for the rest of America. What does Bush offer . . . standardized testing and tort reform?! I thought Clinton's policies were poo poo, too. But Clinton at least had a clue . . . Bush is blinded by his self-righteousness and his ignorance.
As for this thread . . . I think of the wonderful message that Easter brings to Christians (and to all people willing to listen) . . . and then I see our President parading around military bases talking about sacrifice . . . he doesn't know the meaning of the word. I'm not sure the Democrats are significantly better. Hence, the world will now be held captive to a small number of people (US big biz + Murdoch + in-crowd US pols) who think might makes right . . . or when in doubt . . . say it's part of 'God's plan'.
We didn't defend the museums and libraries b/c WE DID NOT CARE. The US government has no respect for Iraqi culture. Bush/Blair talked about how Iraqis were "great people with wonderful culture" . . . I bet Bush couldn't spell Mesopotamia much less find it on a map. So do I think Bush is incompetent . . . YES.
Ignorant . . . YES.
A danger to the long term financial and physical security of America . . . YES.
Would I refuse an invitation to ride around his ranch in is F-250 SuperDuty . . . NO. He's probably a decent guy . . . then again Assad is probably a decent guy, too. Khatami is probably a decent guy . . . the Ayatollah has issues. The world is not the black and white Etch-A-Sketch Bush and the Bush Leaguers believe . . . it is more of a montage. The problem is the whole world will pay the price for his ignorance and avarice.
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