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Lifer
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Too little, too late.

Personally, I don't think you can put that much blame on Bush himself or most of his administration for Katrina... I'd rather see him aplogize for Iraq and other misdeeds he's done...

It's a very small start though...
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Tab
Too little, too late.

Personally, I don't think you can put that much blame on Bush himself or most of his administration for Katrina... I'd rather see him aplogize for Iraq and other misdeeds he's done...

It's a very small start though...

Agree. He'll never come clean on anything Iraq though.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.

No, I am not happy. I wish the goverment hadn't screwed up at all in the first place, they did a poor job. I care about solving problems, I don't see how "destroying" a person, solves the current problem. Could you please explain where and how you got this idea?

Oh, I can't drink so I'll be breaking out a Mountian Dew.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I'm all for it, this is just another blunder he has been directly involved with (naming 'Brownie' head of FEMA). He can cut brush all year round for all I care. Maybe he can make a book deal, I hear pop-up books are gaining in popularity.

I love the critics,
Tell us you would have put in place of Brown.

Not my job to do that. I am nowhere near qualified to make that decision, I know I wouldn't have put someone in who is completely underqualified in every sense of the word. I don't know who I would put in there, but I know who I wouldn't, and Brown fits that bill perfectly.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Brilliant move by Bush. Now everybody will see that people are never happy no matter what you do. They always want / expect more no matter what he does. People just have it out for this man. I'm not particularly fond of him myself. . .but now. . .there you have it. He said what everybody wanted to hear and now people are still throwing mud at him. Nothing he does will make people happy. People are A$$holes but they are too busy worrying about blaming somebody else rather than looking in the mirror and asking themselves "am I perfect?" or "how can I help?"

And now that he has accepted the blame, what does it change?

But liberals are always perfect, make no mistakes!
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Brilliant move by Bush. Now everybody will see that people are never happy no matter what you do. They always want / expect more no matter what he does. People just have it out for this man. I'm not particularly fond of him myself. . .but now. . .there you have it. He said what everybody wanted to hear and now people are still throwing mud at him. Nothing he does will make people happy. People are A$$holes but they are too busy worrying about blaming somebody else rather than looking in the mirror and asking themselves "am I perfect?" or "how can I help?"

And now that he has accepted the blame, what does it change?

But liberals are always perfect, make no mistakes!

That's not the point and you know it. Bush has been "leading" this country -- under Republican control -- for five years now. The mistakes during that time have been BUSH'S.



 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I'm all for it, this is just another blunder he has been directly involved with (naming 'Brownie' head of FEMA). He can cut brush all year round for all I care. Maybe he can make a book deal, I hear pop-up books are gaining in popularity.

I love the critics,
Tell us you would have put in place of Brown.

Not my job to do that. I am nowhere near qualified to make that decision, I know I wouldn't have put someone in who is completely underqualified in every sense of the word. I don't know who I would put in there, but I know who I wouldn't, and Brown fits that bill perfectly.

If you admit to not being anywhere near qualified to make such a decision. What qualifies you to say Brown wasnt qualified? Because the LA times runs an editorial where a pin head who is equally as unqualified as you decides it is time to play the time test liberal policy of personal attacks instead of attacking the problem?

I also find it very unamusing when people throw out the "it isnt good enough" or "that was the wrong decision" without providing a better solution. At that point all you are doing is whining, and whiners are worthless.

 
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No, because I have read how 'qualified' he was from several sources. He wasn't. I have never read the LA Times, and thank you for the direct insult. I don't know why you get off on defending dubya and his ilk, but whatever flips your switch. Please, find me one neutral source that says Brown was qualifed, and he wasnt just an aide or a glorified intern. Please.
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
No, because I have read how 'qualified' he was from several sources. He wasn't. I have never read the LA Times, and thank you for the direct insult. I don't know why you get off on defending dubya and his ilk, but whatever flips your switch. Please, find me one neutral source that says Brown was qualifed, and he wasnt just an aide or a glorified intern. Please.

But you just admitted you arent qualified to make such a decision? Are you or arent you?

If you are as this post indicates then who would you have put in his place instead?
 

azazyel

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I'm all for it, this is just another blunder he has been directly involved with (naming 'Brownie' head of FEMA). He can cut brush all year round for all I care. Maybe he can make a book deal, I hear pop-up books are gaining in popularity.

I love the critics,
Tell us you would have put in place of Brown.

Not my job to do that. I am nowhere near qualified to make that decision, I know I wouldn't have put someone in who is completely underqualified in every sense of the word. I don't know who I would put in there, but I know who I wouldn't, and Brown fits that bill perfectly.

If you admit to not being anywhere near qualified to make such a decision. What qualifies you to say Brown wasnt qualified? Because the LA times runs an editorial where a pin head who is equally as unqualified as you decides it is time to play the time test liberal policy of personal attacks instead of attacking the problem?

I also find it very unamusing when people throw out the "it isnt good enough" or "that was the wrong decision" without providing a better solution. At that point all you are doing is whining, and whiners are worthless.

I would have appointed a General to the post. You know someone who is used to organizing and deploying large groups of people for a common cause.
 
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I am not qualified to say who would be a replacement, but it's not that hard to see who isn't qualifed. Brown, through proof of his own, isn't. Unless you're defending him too. Then, by all means, please enlighten me how he was qualified, how he took a natural disaster and handled it like someone who was mentally equipped for the job. Someone who had a plan in place. It's not like the hurricane surprised them. They had at least 1-2 days full notice to get some teams down into the area to help out. But then again, I am sure that's the governors fault, or the mayors fault or... but not Brownie, cause "You're doing a heckava job, Brownie"
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I am not qualified to say who would be a replacement, but it's not that hard to see who isn't qualifed. Brown, through proof of his own, isn't. Unless you're defending him too.

That is a weak argument.
 

Darkhawk28

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How about keeping/convincing James Lee Witt to stay on...

This IS supposed to be a non-partisan post, is it not?

 

1EZduzit

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
No, because I have read how 'qualified' he was from several sources. He wasn't. I have never read the LA Times, and thank you for the direct insult. I don't know why you get off on defending dubya and his ilk, but whatever flips your switch. Please, find me one neutral source that says Brown was qualifed, and he wasnt just an aide or a glorified intern. Please.

But you just admitted you arent qualified to make such a decision? Are you or arent you?

If you are as this post indicates then who would you have put in his place instead?

Quit acting like an idiot. The majority of the nation doesn't think Brown was qualified OR did a good job. Hell, almodt anybody could have did a better job then Brown did.
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
No, because I have read how 'qualified' he was from several sources. He wasn't. I have never read the LA Times, and thank you for the direct insult. I don't know why you get off on defending dubya and his ilk, but whatever flips your switch. Please, find me one neutral source that says Brown was qualifed, and he wasnt just an aide or a glorified intern. Please.

But you just admitted you arent qualified to make such a decision? Are you or arent you?

If you are as this post indicates then who would you have put in his place instead?

Quit acting like an idiot. The majority of the nation doesn't think Brown was qualified OR did a good job. Hell, almodt anybody could have did a better job then Brown did.

I find it funny that the majority of the nation has an opinion on something they know nothing about except what they read in the local editorial section that was written by somebody equally as ignorant.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy?

Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.

It doesn't change the sad truth except for admisssion for the history books.

Now every righty both in here and outside needs to apologize and take responsibility for their mistakes electing their inept hero as well.

I don't expect one rabid Bush supporter in here to suck it up, they would rather die I'm sure.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
No, because I have read how 'qualified' he was from several sources. He wasn't. I have never read the LA Times, and thank you for the direct insult. I don't know why you get off on defending dubya and his ilk, but whatever flips your switch. Please, find me one neutral source that says Brown was qualifed, and he wasnt just an aide or a glorified intern. Please.

But you just admitted you arent qualified to make such a decision? Are you or arent you?

If you are as this post indicates then who would you have put in his place instead?

Quit acting like an idiot. The majority of the nation doesn't think Brown was qualified OR did a good job. Hell, almodt anybody could have did a better job then Brown did.

I find it funny that the majority of the nation has an opinion on something they know nothing about except what they read in the local editorial section that was written by somebody equally as ignorant.

I find it funny that Brown was relieved from duty and then "quit" and you still trying to defend him and I assume Bush for appointing him in the first place.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.

Wow, the Bush fluffer is back with a whine.

When does Bush take resposibilty for Iraq? When your polls are rock bottom, there is nothing left but saying sorry and hoping for a bounce. He spent the last two weeks saying "we don't want to play the blame game" and then blaming everyone but themselves. "Brownie, you are doing a heckava job".
 
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Here ya go. From Time Magazine:
Before joining FEMA, his only previous stint in emergency management, according to his bio posted on FEMA's website, was "serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight." The White House press release from 2001 stated that Brown worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., from 1975 to 1978 "overseeing the emergency services division." In fact, according to Claudia Deakins, head of public relations for the city of Edmond, Brown was an "assistant to the city manager" from 1977 to 1980, not a manager himself, and had no authority over other employees. "The assistant is more like an intern," she told TIME. "Department heads did not report to him."
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From Wiki...
In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, many Democratic politicians called for Brown to be fired immediately, including California Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Maryland Senator Barbara Mikulski, New York Senators Hillary Clinton and Charles Schumer, Colorado Senator Ken Salazar, Michigan Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick and Senator Debbie Stabenow, Louisiana State Rep. Peter Sullivan, Nevada Senator Harry Reid, and Illinois Senator Dick Durbin.

Republican politicians such as Senator Trent Lott have also criticized Brown's leadership of FEMA
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Neither of these are what you refered to as editorials, but you'll discount it somehow.
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
An apology means nothing unless changes are made.

You meant to say, "IMPEACH! IMPEACH!!!"

I've been saying that since the intelligence "failure" that was 9/11.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: darkcyber
The local and county pretty much couldn't respond...but my question, is where was the STATE and the Governor in this response?

Ordering the national guard to prevent people from leaving the city so those poor black people couldn't get into the rich neighborhoods. After some of the eye witness stories I heard on NPR on sunday there needs to be criminal charges filed against some of the local and state authorities.
 
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I think this is a step in the right direction, but frankly it distresses me that he had to be dragged kicking and screaming from the proposition that all was well with FEMA, and that Brownie was doing a heck of a job.

Regardless, I'll give credit where credit's due, and applaud the President for taking responsibility for the failures in the federal response to Katrina (or, as Laura calls it, Karina).
 

Darkhawk28

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Reading Bush's quote again:

Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility

Extent of the federal government didn't fully do its job right?

So basically, right now, he isn't taking responsibility for SH*T, because they haven't conceded blame that the federal government did anything wrong.

What a bunch of empty GD words. :|
 

GoodToGo

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.

The funny thing is that while the hurricane was moving in President (SIC) Bush was strumming away on his guitar and on his vacation. That picture was really unbelievable and I could not believe his callous attitude.

Also what about his comment "Heck of a job brownie"? Is he rescinding what he said earlier? Look at the ineptitude of Brown in response to this disaster. Best was the fact that a canadian rescue team beat the federal rescue team to new orleans. That's right, all the way from canada to NO in lesser time than the US rescue team. And what was his prior experience to all this? Manager of a race horsing organization? What about gas gouging in the states most of which quite interestingly happened in Atlanta?

Buck has to stop somewhere. It stopped with him for once. He still has a LOT of repairs left to do. The iraq mess and the economy would be good places to start. And OBTW, no prizes for guessing what Katrina meant for the economy.