Bush: 'I take responsibility' for U.S. failures

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Jhhnn

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The whole Katrina situation is just one symptom of the Repub's general contempt for government, which they see merely as a source of jobs for ideological cronyism and a source of cash provided from pork and deficits. They see the govt as incompetent, anyway, and have no qualms about making that worse, so long as the right people benefit.

Competence isn't a core issue wrt appointments, ideology is all that matters, so what we're seeing with the gulf coast imbroglio is just that incompetence brought to the surface. It's going on full strength in every other aspect of govt, as well, from the FDA to the Pentagon to the EPA, the Treasury and CPB- you name it, and they've put incompetents in charge, simply because they'll toe the party line, act as ideological yes-men, regardless of the consequences.

Think Katrina is bad? Just wait until the consequences of mismanagement of trade, spending, taxes, and foreign policy set in. You ain't seen nothing yet.
 

raildogg

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Bush can do anything he wants, these people will always point out his faults.

what is Bush's biggest mistake?

he has R next to his name. if he wants to get a favorable rating with the P&N crowd, he should change that R to a D.:D
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Bush can do anything he wants, these people will always point out his faults.

what is Bush's biggest mistake?

he has R next to his name. if he wants to get a favorable rating with the P&N crowd, he should change that R to a D.:D

You are so stupid. He would still be half as bad as a Democrat and that is really really bad.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: raildogg
Bush can do anything he wants, these people will always point out his faults.

what is Bush's biggest mistake?

he has R next to his name. if he wants to get a favorable rating with the P&N crowd, he should change that R to a D.:D

You are so stupid. He would still be half as bad as a Democrat and that is really really bad.

oh sure :disgust:, take those insults and shove them, Mr. Elite

the sad part is that when Bush does do some good, the partisans here say he didnt really do it. yet when something bad happens, such as Katrina aid delay, its totally his fault.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: raildogg
Bush can do anything he wants, these people will always point out his faults.

what is Bush's biggest mistake?

he has R next to his name. if he wants to get a favorable rating with the P&N crowd, he should change that R to a D.:D

You are so stupid. He would still be half as bad as a Democrat and that is really really bad.

oh sure :disgust:, take those insults and shove them, Mr. Elite

the sad part is that when Bush does do some good, the partisans here say he didnt really do it. yet when something bad happens, such as Katrina aid delay, its totally his fault.

You are so stupid. If he were a Democrat the good he did he'd get credit for and the bad wouldn't get blamed on him.

 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.
It's impressive when someone can admit fault.
Some never do.

 

GroundedSailor

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.
It's impressive when someone can admit fault.
Some never do.

It is obvious to anyone that he is taking responsibility as head of state, not necessarily for the FEMA mismanagement. That has been thrust on Browns shoulders who has resigned. I don't see Bush offering to resign.

But I would like him apologize & take responsibility for lying to the American pubic about his reason for going to Iraq and ignoring Afghanistan and Bin Laden, for the deficits, the patriot act, for the damage to the environment, making US the most hated nation worldwide among others. Forget about apologies - if he just overturns those policies and and puts our laws on the right track I would be happy.


 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.

Well considering 90% of the failures that caused this disaster are squarely on the shoulders of the state and city officals. Hes not really apologizing for much.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Reading Bush's quote again:

Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility

Extent of the federal government didn't fully do its job right?

So basically, right now, he isn't taking responsibility for SH*T, because they haven't conceded blame that the federal government did anything wrong.

What a bunch of empty GD words. :|

When it comes to precentages of who fvcked up more. City and State have a much larger precentage than the feds. If you fvcking democrats cant see Gov Blanco and Mayor Nagin fvcked up worse theres no helping you. Yes the feds were slow. To slow. But my god Gov Blanco and more so Mayor Nagin are totally fvcking inept. Much more so than Bush and Bush is god damn inept.

I mean all you have to do is look at Mississippi. They have had relatively little problems and they suffered much worse. Sure might not be under water, but the damage is much more extensive. They just happen to have competent people running the show. The whole state of Mississippi was ravaged and there isnt this on and on about slow response their. Why? They had first responders. NO didnt. They hadnt competent officals. LA and NO didn't.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
When it comes to precentages of who fvcked up more. City and State have a much larger precentage than the feds. If you fvcking democrats cant see Gov Blanco and Mayor Nagin fvcked up worse theres no helping you. Yes the feds were slow. To slow. But my god Gov Blanco and more so Mayor Nagin are totally fvcking inept. Much more so than Bush and Bush is god damn inept.

I mean all you have to do is look at Mississippi. They have had relatively little problems and they suffered much worse. Sure might not be under water, but the damage is much more extensive. They just happen to have competent people running the show. The whole state of Mississippi was ravaged and there isnt this on and on about slow response their. Why? They had first responders. NO didnt. They hadnt competent officals. LA and NO didn't.

THE FAILURE OF THE LOCAL OFFICIALS DOES NOT EXCUSE THE FAILURE OF THE FEDERAL OFFICIALS. TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT.

Does the yelling help you understand? You're a fvcking moron if you think that by saying the local officials failed that somehow makes all the federal problems go away. Yea the locals failed and they should and will be punished, some of them should be charged criminally but that does NOT excuse the failed federal response. It NEVER will.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.

So when does he resign?

Did Blanco and Nagin resign yet?
 

Hacp

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Everything was fine until the flooding started. IMO, bush got blamed for nothing. He should take responsibility BUT not for this. He should take responsibility for the failtures in Iraq, especially the intellegence failure.

In the New Oreleans ordeal, Bush was just an innocent bystander.
 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
An apology means nothing unless changes are made.

Start with getting rid of the failing Democratic administration in La. Brown resigned, you think Blanco is that good?

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.

Oh yeah, did Clinton ever utter the word responsibility? Has any recent Democrat?

 

Starbuck1975

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The whole Katrina situation is just one symptom of the Repub's general contempt for government, which they see merely as a source of jobs for ideological cronyism and a source of cash provided from pork and deficits. They see the govt as incompetent, anyway, and have no qualms about making that worse, so long as the right people benefit.
How can the Republicans have contempt for government when they have leveraged the very institution to further their own agenda?

The Federal government simply cannot function in the role of solving all of the nation's problems. The Founding Fathers argued extensively on the distribution of power between the federal government and the states.

States, and even city or local regional governments, are far more capable, with the necessary resources at their disposal, to address most local issues. It is simply impossible to institute policy at the federal level that will serve the benefit of the entire population.

Regardless, our society has become so segmented into opposing ideological camps, that compromise seems nearly impossible...the same hot button issues move to the forefront of political debate, and the status quo remains.

Outsourcing certain government functions to corporations makes sense because the government does not operate for profit, and therefore has no checks in place to ensure the efficient spending of funds and resources. Corporations, operating as profit centers, can replicate many government functions at significant cost savings...assuming the appropriate checks are in place to ensure said corporations do not engage in criminal activity, or abuse government funding, or receive contracts under conditions of preferential treatment.

 

coolkatz321

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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Too little, WAY too late. Don't let the oval office door hit you in the brains on the way out dubya.

In order to be hit in the brains by the door, you need to have brains. You meant empty skull.
 

Jhhnn

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From Starbuck1975-

"How can the Republicans have contempt for government when they have leveraged the very institution to further their own agenda? "

The same way it works in any abusive relationship- the abuser exploits the other party or parties for their own ends. In this case, the destruction of the govt itself.

Repubs claim govt is inefficient and ineffective, then proceed to make it so with the application of gross cronyism. They claim that it costs too much, even as they engage in an orgy of pork, deficits, and fatcat taxcuts that redefines the whole concept of looting.

They offer only a self-fulfilling prophesy of greed and selfishness, with those of great wealth having and exploiting every advantage, their international reach cloaked in the rhetoric of states' rights and local responsibility- a basic divide and conquer strategy.

They offer up absurdities, as you have, wrt the ability of states like Louisiana to respond to disasters like Katrina, when half the state is basically obliterated...
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Bush can do anything he wants, these people will always point out his faults.

what is Bush's biggest mistake?

he has R next to his name. if he wants to get a favorable rating with the P&N crowd, he should change that R to a D.:D

Uh, i think his ratings would be even lower if he had a 'd' next to his name... bush wouldn't have those insane fun-da-mentalists (you know, the ones who would NEVER question bush) as his support base to help him in times of crisis.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
The whole Katrina situation is just one symptom of the Repub's general contempt for government, which they see merely as a source of jobs for ideological cronyism and a source of cash provided from pork and deficits. They see the govt as incompetent, anyway, and have no qualms about making that worse, so long as the right people benefit.

Competence isn't a core issue wrt appointments, ideology is all that matters, so what we're seeing with the gulf coast imbroglio is just that incompetence brought to the surface. It's going on full strength in every other aspect of govt, as well, from the FDA to the Pentagon to the EPA, the Treasury and CPB- you name it, and they've put incompetents in charge, simply because they'll toe the party line, act as ideological yes-men, regardless of the consequences.

Think Katrina is bad? Just wait until the consequences of mismanagement of trade, spending, taxes, and foreign policy set in. You ain't seen nothing yet.


John Bolton as Bush's pick to the UN is a text-book example.

 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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So, are you liberals happy? Breaking out the champagne? Because the destruction of Bush is all you care about, more so than the Katrina victims.


You are an idiot, the reason "liberals" are upset at Bush is because of the fact that he didn't care for the victims. I personally do care about the victims and I am a liberal. I have contributed over $1000 between myself and my wife. I am also planning on going down to the area in a couple weeks to help in the relief effort, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE??? You are right in saying that I want to see the destruction of Bush, only because I am trying to help the victims, WHAT DID HE DO??? Think next time before you write such typical conservative nonsense.