Tell her to get off the bus and call police. Defend yourself if needed. He wasnt defending himself with that blow. I am not going to cry for the woman. And I found it hilarious. But at the same time he stepped beyond the line. He will likely be charged with some crime for delivering one the most picture perfect upper cuts this side of the rockies in the past 40 years.
Phokus
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I mean, he rocked the hell out of her with his fist, if he can't hold her down without injury, i dunno. He's much bigger than she is.
Don Vito Corleone
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What he should have done:
Park the bus, put the 4-way flashers on, call dispatch and request immediate police assistance for an emergency (or, if he felt that would make her more hostile, push the silent alarm that is available to all bus drivers in major metro areas and leads to an immediate emergency police response). If she continued to physically assault him (which it didn't appear she was inclined to do), use necessary force to defend himself. Not verbally antagonize the passenger, not leave the seat, and most definitely not beat the shit out of her.
My answer would be the same if this person were a male, but it's worth noting that the passenger would have been a greater threat if she were male. This chick was completely obnoxious and bitchy, but unlike a lot of young men, I see no reason to think she could or would have beat the driver up or worse.
I represent both bus drivers and our local transit authority and have dealt with a number of situations in which drivers used force against people who had assaulted them, but, as in this case, pursued the assaulter rather than merely acting in self defense. The normal penalty is to fire the driver. They are entitled to grieve this including, if the union votes for it, to arbitration. If an arbitrator reinstates them, that is the arbitrator's choice and not the transit authority's. I have handled three cases like this for our transit authority. I won two and lost one.
I know this video is entertaining, and I am no fan of that young woman, but driving a bus requires drivers to deal with unpleasant and hostile people, and if they can't do so without instigating fights and beating people up, they are a liability to the transit authority and a danger to themselves and their passengers.
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I think most people realize what the driver did was wrong but seeing it touches that part of us that wishes we could just shut up super annoying people.
It may be politically and morally incorrect but I think its ok to laugh as long as you don't let it encourage you to actually do it.
That's not the point. She put her hands on him, at that point she became a danger to him and other passengers. She kept taunting him after and for all we know she had a weapon or was getting ready to kick him in the head. I think using physical force to remove her from the bus is fine at that point. She should not have immunity to act like this because of what's between her legs. Would you be perfectly fine with his response if it was a male who attacked him and got punched?
Wise words my friend. If anyone ever catch the Bill Burr stand up on hitting women (it's on netflix), he makes a great point. He says something along the line of "people who says there is never a reason to hit women are pompous idiots. Ask any guy and he will tell you a good reason to hit a woman, you just don't. A crazy bitch deserves to get hit just as much as a crazy dude." I'm paraphrasing, it's a really funny bit.
I like the uppercut, but quite honestly, how the hell did it not knock her out? The guy REALLY needs to work on his power.
amdhunter
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I'm pretty sure he held back a bit. Sucker punching someone like that could kill them if done with too much power.
And FWIW, I'm not a strong guy or anything, and I'm sure most of you think I'm a 100% pussy...but I would have fucked that guy up for hitting a girl like that by sucker punching him the same way.
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OILFIELDTRASH
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No there was no holding back. Did you see him wind his fist in a circular motion? He put everything he had into it.
OILFIELDTRASH
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Being fat doesn't mean you're strong. He's a fat old man that drives a bus all day. Of course he's going to be weak as a kitten.
1. That's a girl?
2. If so, she looks like the kind of girl that can take a punch or two, or uppercut to the mouth.
Listen, I'm not expecting him to have Mike Tyson power in his shots, but the girl weighs like 100 lbs. Even a weak bus driver should be able to knock her out if she's just standing there.
OILFIELDTRASH
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Im all for helping a woman being attacked by a man. But when you hit said man while he's sitting down and then proceed to wave your arms like let's do this I will sit back and watch while you get uppercutted.
And she obviously isn't as tough as she portrays herself to be. Having been in numerous fights myself you never ever keep your defenses down when someone stands up to confront you. I've been knocked smooth the fuck out just like that. Rookie mistake..
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Exactly. Chicks like this use the "don't hit a woman" excuse as some kind of shield while launching an assault on a man. The guy was right, if you want to act like a man, you'll get treated like a man.
SandEagle
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I don't think that was a sucker punch. She called him out on whether he could do anything and he did.
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