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Bulldozer and Windows Vista
- Thread starter Mazate
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Well, I haven't installed it yet. I don't want to install if there isn't a hotfix. If there isn't one then I'll stick with linux, but I would think that the windows 7 hotfix *should* work with vista.
Durvelle27
Diamond Member
not but vista sucks in comparison to windows 7 ? when i had vista it made my pc run slower than compared to windows 7
It's free now but at some point I'll have to pay for it so I'd rather not have to install Windows 8 now and then later on go back to Vista. Money is an issue. 🙂 I'm sure many of you can relate.
No. This is anandtech, so everyone here makes at least 6 figures, has a hot wife/girlfriend, and drives nothing less than a Porsche.
Durvelle27
Diamond Member
Two products that on their own are slow bloated performance pigs that suck power like there is no tomorrow compared to their predecessors D:
But when put together, dear lord, you risk creating an abomination that may herald the coming of the seventh sign of the rapture.
On a serious note though, if you can't afford Windows7 then I question whether you can really afford a bulldozer CPU given its increased power-consumption footprint.
You should have thought through on the total cost of ownership here, I bet an even cheaper CPU would have given you the same performance with Vista but at a lower TCO over the years to come until you can afford to buy a more recent/relevant OS.
As an admin I feel like you should be sanctioned for having just called out at least 25-50% of the entire active membership here as being BS'ers...however, as a member who likes to tell everyone I make at least 6 figures, have both a hot wife and a hot girlfriend (not too mention the hot girlfriend that my hot wife has 😱), and that I do happen to drive nothing less than a Porsche (this being Friday means I am driving my Friday Porsche, of course, having one for every day of the week), I find myself sidelined and left with the ability to say no more than "touché, good sir, touché!"
NTMBK
Lifer
Seriously? He's talking about a desktop PC here, not a rack of servers that are on 24/7. I don't think the power consumption costs are going to make much difference. The savings from using a CPU with 15W less power draw for several years on a daily basis would still be wiped out by taking a couple of extra showers.
Yes seriously, unless someone gave him the CPU there is no doubt he could have bought one cheaper and likely scored himself the same level of "snappy" performance in Vista.
Why would anyone pair a bulldozer with Vista and claim poverty is their reasoning for doing so? If you are impoverished then bulldozer was a silly choice, you paid more for it upfront than buying a last-gen processor and you are going to pay more to keep it running versus the expense of a last gen processor.
When you claim dollars matter, your purchasing decisions should reflect as much. Buying bulldozer is an action that does not reflect "dollars matter". Buying a PhII or a Q9550 reflects a "dollars matter" mentality.
inf64
Diamond Member
That is very true sir,good analogy :thumbsup:
Fortunately for you my finances aren't your concern and I really don't have to justify what I buy to anyone. I've been a linux user for a long time and haven't had to worry about overpaying Microsoft for their bloatware. For reasons I won't go into I've decided to go back to Windows for a time but I don't have a copy of Windows 7. Plain and simple. As for my choice of processors, it's a huge step up from what I had. I'm not running my own website testing out all the latest hardware and benchmarks. I'm an average joe who needs a computer and got an inexpensive CPU that met my needs.
pantsaregood
Senior member
How do people still hate on Windows Vista like this? The biggest issue with it was driver support upon release. That wasn't Microsoft's fault in any capacity. As of now, it should run near-identically to Windows 7 on any given PC. One of the biggest drawbacks to it is lack of TRIM.
Even if the patch doesn't work on Vista, it isn't worth worrying about. The patch doesn't "fix" Bulldozer performance, it just alters the order in which Windows assigns tasks to CPUs. It works on any CPU with HT, too; physical cores are loaded first. Once they've all been loaded, logical cores get loaded. In the case of Bulldozer, that means one core from each module will load, and only when more threads are used will it use the second core on a module.
Even if the patch doesn't work on Vista, it isn't worth worrying about. The patch doesn't "fix" Bulldozer performance, it just alters the order in which Windows assigns tasks to CPUs. It works on any CPU with HT, too; physical cores are loaded first. Once they've all been loaded, logical cores get loaded. In the case of Bulldozer, that means one core from each module will load, and only when more threads are used will it use the second core on a module.
If you don't want to pay for another Windows, just put Vista on there. It's not as if the patch actually makes a huge difference (average 1.85% increase, see here
If you don't want to pay for another Windows, just put Vista on there. It's not as if the patch actually makes a huge difference (average 1.85% increase, see here)
Again, I'm not a gamer with the latest and greatest equipment but I've never been unhappy with Vista. In the beginning it had its issues with memory and it took forever for it to shut down, etc. However, over time with patches that came out it always worked fine for me, even with some moderate gaming. It has always met my needs. Just because review website say something doesn't meet their standards and doesn't do well on this benchmark and that benchmark doesn't mean it doesn't have a role to play for someone that is just using something for everyday use. Vista always worked fine. My usage for the FX-4100 has served me well thus far on Ubuntu.
frozentundra123456
Lifer
Better check your math. I calculated a conservative cost of electricity of 10 cents per kwh.
that is .01 cents per watt per hour. If you save 25 watts and the computer is running 10 hours per day, that is 2.5 cents per day. For one year that is $9.12. For 4 years, that would be 36.00. Even if the computer is under load only a few hours a day, over 3 or 4 years, you could save several dollars. Granted not a lot of money, but more than "a couple of showers".
Some posters are perhaps being a bit critical of the OP, but I dont understand the choice of bulldozer either. I dont think vista is that bad actually, I use Vista at home and win 7 at work, and really dont see that much difference. But it would seem that a phenom, athlon X2 or SB pentium would have been a better budget choice.
podspi
Golden Member
Vista was released in Nov 2006. Since then, it has had a ton of updates which bring its performance up to par.
Windows 7 literally is Vista with an updated UI. I use Vista on a number of my machines and after you update the system + drivers it is much better behaved than its initial release. Personally, I think the UI updates are worth paying for W7, but if you have a Vista license and need windows (and don't want to spend any $$$) it is way better than installing and having to use XP. BTW, doesn't anybody remember how much people hated XP initially too, for the SAME reason (general incompatibility with everything + it looked ugly as anything)?!
Getting back to OP's question: No. It is not available, though it really doesn't matter much, as others have said before.
Windows 7 literally is Vista with an updated UI. I use Vista on a number of my machines and after you update the system + drivers it is much better behaved than its initial release. Personally, I think the UI updates are worth paying for W7, but if you have a Vista license and need windows (and don't want to spend any $$$) it is way better than installing and having to use XP. BTW, doesn't anybody remember how much people hated XP initially too, for the SAME reason (general incompatibility with everything + it looked ugly as anything)?!
Getting back to OP's question: No. It is not available, though it really doesn't matter much, as others have said before.
Phynaz
Lifer
Wait, I thought my profile was private. Are you using your admin powers to look at it and copy it here??
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