Building new system around a 2600x

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kawi6rr

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I finally decided to build a new system around a Ryzen 2600x I've been using my FX 8350 since 2012 and the board just died so it's time to move on.

Here's what I can get at the moment
Chip - Ryzen 2600x: Sale on Amazon $179, currently in cart.
Board - ASRock X470: Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory: Sale $120 (Any other thoughts on boards are welcome too)

Need help with proper RAM, would like 16g's of decently fast RAM.

Thanks.
 
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kawi6rr said:
Chip - Ryzen 2600x: Sale on Amazon $179, currently in cart.
Board - ASRock X470: Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory: Sale $120 (Any other thoughts on boards are welcome too)
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FYI, the 2600X is cheaper on Newegg with the current promo code.
 
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kawi6rr said:
I live in HI so it's $20 shiping for me.
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Are you sure ? put the stuff in your cart, and see what it says. My brother lives in HI, and most stuff is still free. Ony super eggsaver shipping excludes HI.
 
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Team Dark Pro 3200MHz CL14 is a very good kit, same level as the G.SKILL ones. I have one set for almost a year now, it overclocks the same as my Trident Z (both based on Samsung B-Die chips). But as Mark pointed out the Ripjaws are few dollars cheaper so you can't go wrong.

The only advantage the Trident Z has are temperature sensors but I am not sure if the Ripjaws also have them.
 
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Get samsung b die ram
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Honestly, unless you're going for "extreme" overclocks, or to-the-wire high-FPS gaming, I'm not sure that's necessary anymore. Most mobo makers have "figured out" Hynix timings, and can get them to work decently. AGESA 1.0.0.6 helped immensely for me.

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Whats the budget ? Personally, I use 3200 bdie here($145 for 2 x 8 gig):
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232217
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OTOH, if you can get B-die that cheap, go for it!
 
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VirtualLarry said:
Honestly, unless you're going for "extreme" overclocks, or to-the-wire high-FPS gaming, I'm not sure that's necessary anymore. Most mobo makers have "figured out" Hynix timings, and can get them to work decently. AGESA 1.0.0.6 helped immensely for me.



OTOH, if you can get B-die that cheap, go for it!
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I went the cheap route on ram, and it worked out fine. However your mileage may vary. The ASUS motherboard couldn't muster over 2666. The MSI motherboard gets 3200. I really like the ASUS motherboard, right up until it died.... The MSI one can't get quite the clocks without overclocking, but close. But the ram, even cheap ram is plug and play.
 
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scannall said:
I went the cheap route on ram, and it worked out fine. However your mileage may vary. The ASUS motherboard couldn't muster over 2666. The MSI motherboard gets 3200. I really like the ASUS motherboard, right up until it died.... The MSI one can't get quite the clocks without overclocking, but close. But the ram, even cheap ram is plug and play.
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ASRock is the only way to go with Ryzen IMO. But I do have an MSI motherboard on my 2990wx, and the memory spped is not great (only 2933) but at least its running.
 
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Markfw said:
ASRock is the only way to go with Ryzen IMO. But I do have an MSI motherboard on my 2990wx, and the memory spped is not great (only 2933) but at least its running.
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I was hesitant about buying an MSI board. Old guy with too good of a memory. I kinda cringed when I clicked 'Buy Now', but it has worked out well.
 
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Markfw said:
ASRock is the only way to go with Ryzen IMO. But I do have an MSI motherboard on my 2990wx, and the memory spped is not great (only 2933) but at least its running.
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scannall said:
I was hesitant about buying an MSI board. Old guy with too good of a memory. I kinda cringed when I clicked 'Buy Now', but it has worked out well.
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AFAIK MSI is ok with Ryzen, at least based on what I read and what I went through with my MSI B350 Mortar. The only issues I had with the board were almost good enough 3200+Mhz memory support for non b-die memory, and no CPU voltage offset support in BIOS. Both of these issue were fixed with firmware updates.

Due to a peculiar set of circumstances all my "recent" builds were based on MSI motherboards (one Z170, one Z370, one B350). I had no real hindrance with the builds, and whatever bothered me was fixed with updates. (vcore was a bit high on Z170, there was a hidden current limit on Z370, voltage offset lacked on B350). In terms of reliability they seem ok, as they've been running almost 24/7 since assembly, especially the Z170 board which hosts a Plex server.

I'm actually thinking of switching some roles around the house, as the previous tasks of the AMD platform are no longer of interest, so I might make it my "daily machine" to get a better sense of Ryzen's platform before the 7nm brothers hit the shelves.
 
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@kawi6rr

Some thoughts on memory:

Lots of people advocate DDR4-3200 CAS14 for b-die. I say shop around, look at some sleeper deals. For example:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220987

Might be Samsung E-die. You have some tuning options here if you like to play with your memory. The price is amazing for what you get, regardless. The advertised XMP ratings are ever-so-slightly worse than DDR4-3200 CAS/CL14 (it's about the same as DDR4-3200 CAS/CL15) but with some extra voltage, I'll bet you can make this stuff run with better timings. It might also be downbinned b-die that didn't make the cut for faster modules, like DDR4-3733.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232728

There's been a rash of DDR4-3600 with CAS/CL ratings from 17-19 lately. Maybe over the last 6-8 months? Anyway, I can't identify what kind of ICs are in these products, but some reports that this RAM can clock all the way up to 4000 MHz. I'm thinking this is cheap b-die. You will not get RAM speeds that high on a 2600x, but you can probably dial down on those timings. Don't be afraid to push 1.42v through DDR4 when chasing a better memory overclock.
 
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I see the point of your first suggestion... At just $91 for this 3400MHz memory the B-Die kit would be more than 50% pricier.
But the second kit at $120, I don't think saving just $25 is worth in this case.
 
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MSI B450 Tomahawk or MSI B450 Pro Carbon if B450.

ASUS X470 Pro, AsRock X470 Taichi, MSI X470 Pro Carbon if X470.
 
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kawi6rr

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Thanks for all the input, here's what I have so far and cost is not really an issue.

Chip: 2600x $179 shipped

Damn! I ordered the wrong kit.
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Memory Kit F4-3000C15D-16GVKB

Still looking for a motherboard.
 
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The ram is fine. It might say intel, but it should run fine on the 2600x.
 
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