Building for gaming 2500k or 3570k Ivy

[Don Karnage]

Not sure what the temperature in my room but I'll say it's pretty hot compared to the rest of my house. I think it's because of the computer and other electronics I have in the room.
I'm using the two stock 120mm fans in the Fractal Design R3 no additional fans.

Well I reapplied the thermal paste but forgot to take a picture of it. I used the pea in the center method. Still got the same from what I can tell.

Your case can hold 7 fans but you're only running two. Add more fans and your temps should drop.

 

[Renegade_09]

Ok Thanks. I'll run the Intel test burn later. How long is long though? 1-2 hours? 15-30 mins?

 

[Ferzerp]

Ok Thanks. I'll run the Intel test burn later. How long is long though? 1-2 hours? 15-30 mins?

You will hit your temp peak with traditional cooling in under 30 minutes easily. You'll get really, really hot in under 5.


It will serve as a worst case scenario for your processor. Nothing else will ever get it quite that hot.

 

[Renegade_09]

You will hit your temp peak with traditional cooling in under 30 minutes easily. You'll get really, really hot in under 5.


It will serve as a worst case scenario for your processor. Nothing else will ever get it quite that hot.

My first time using Intel Burn Test. Not sure how to go about this but can someone help me with the settings? What stress level should I set it at? How many "Times to Run"?

Don't really want to mess up and get my CPU fried.

 

[Ferzerp]

Start with the defaults other than changing the thread count to match your core count. Then the only thing to change is "standard" to the next level higher if you want to run longer tests on it that use more memory.

The default settings (once you adjust thread count) will give you an idea on heat, and if it's ok, then try the longer tests.


WARNING: it *will* get hot.

 

[Renegade_09]

I set it to High and adjusted the thread to 4. Set the Times to run to 5.
Finish the test and run it successfully. Temps 60 C

Did another test with Times to run 10: Here's what I got so far. Running hotter than my first test it seems.

edit: Here's the result of the test

Can someone tell me if there temps are normal?

 

[Ferzerp]

Do you have something else running and taking up proc time? You should be getting somewhere in the high 80's/low 90's on the GFLOPS with a 3570 stock.

 

[Renegade_09]

I got anti-virus and I was browsing the forums and checking some other stuff on Google Chrome. Nothing else as far as I know.

 

[Ferzerp]

Can't really go on the temps you get when the result is so low. It's not loading it as it should.

You can right click the start button in the app and pick extreme stress mode. Your PC will appear to lock up while it's running, but it will give it higher priority. Start with the standard size first so you can get an idea of how it will behave.

 

[Renegade_09]

Ok here are the results
Right click on the app and picked extreme stress mode. Like you said it appear to be locked up but it was running. I forgot to set the number of threads to 4 on this test. It default to All.

Here is one in STANDARD

In HIGH

Don't know what to say here. I was complaining before it was running hot now it seems like it's running too cool based on what your saying?

 

[Ferzerp]

Those temps seem low for IB unless you've gotten a little exotic with your cooling, but the work done is slightly over half what it should be, so something is wrong anyway. Linpack should be getting in the 90's for GFLOPs.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Ye, way way too low. Try run CPU-Z and see what speed it runs while you do it.

 

[2is]

"All threads" and "4 threads" are the same thing for a 3570 FYI.

 

[Renegade_09]

I'm just using a Hyper 212+ with two stock 120mm case fans in my Fractal Design R3

Just did the test again after playing some Diablo 3.

 

[borisvodofsky]

I'm just using a Hyper 212+ with two stock 120mm case fans in my Fractal Design R3

Just did the test again after playing some Diablo 3.

Seems pretty clear, that intel has made a new batch of CPUs then. Cuz this guy has this uber-cool edition

Try realtemp maybe.

 

[blastingcap]

I'm just using a Hyper 212+ with two stock 120mm case fans in my Fractal Design R3

Just did the test again after playing some Diablo 3.

Like others have said, your gflops should be near 100. Whatever you're doing, it's not loading up right and all temperature screenshots are invalid if you are loading up your CPU only 50%.

 

[Renegade_09]

I'm using IntelBurnTest v2.53 the freeware. Am I using the right version?

 

[Don Karnage]

What kind of memory are you running?

 

[Renegade_09]

What kind of memory are you running?

Corsair XMS3 Classic 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz (CMX8GX3M2B1600C9)

I don't really understand it say max bandwidth 667mhz and than XMP at 800mhz

 

[RAJOD]

If you makes you feel any better, my Core 1 is over 10C hotter than my coldest core, at load. Even at idle it's still several degrees C hotter. I've remounted and reapplied TIM and have never seen more than 1C difference no matter what. I'm assuming the problem lies beneath the heatspreader, not above it.

Yea you are probably correct. Tear it down clean out intels paste and put in new. Not many have the guts to do that on a new cpu though.

 

[RAJOD]

Yes you are correct. My cpu lan room was a sauna. Each cpu and vpu get very hot and no matter if you use liquid, fans etc that heat is put into the room. I ended up venting out a window to keep the room temps down. Now its fine.

Not sure what the temperature in my room but I'll say it's pretty hot compared to the rest of my house. I think it's because of the computer and other electronics I have in the room.
I'm using the two stock 120mm fans in the Fractal Design R3 no additional fans.

Well I reapplied the thermal paste but forgot to take a picture of it. I used the pea in the center method. Still got the same from what I can tell.

 

[Renegade_09]

Your case can hold 7 fans but you're only running two. Add more fans and your temps should drop.

What kind of fans do you recommend? I was thinking of getting another 120mm in the front for intake and another 140mm on the top for exhaust? Would that be a good setup?

 

[blastingcap]

Yea you are probably correct. Tear it down clean out intels paste and put in new. Not many have the guts to do that on a new cpu though.

One core being hotter than the others has nothing to do with TIM (unless there is an air bubble or something) and probably more to do with some sort of unevenness in the heatspreader or cooler. Sometimes it's just down to the silicon/package; as Idontcare found out in all of his lapping exercises, sometimes you just get a spiky core and no amount of lapping can de-spike it.

What kind of fans do you recommend? I was thinking of getting another 120mm in the front for intake and another 140mm on the top for exhaust? Would that be a good setup?

Sleeve fans should only be mounted vertically. Rifle/hybrid/ball/fluid-dynamic bearing fans can be mounted at whatever angle you wish. So do not use sleeve bearing fans for the top exhaust.

What I would do is get something cheap, such as a four-pack of Rosewill 120mm sleeve-bearing fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835200061 (Assuming you have enough 3-pin sockets for them, else you may have to either buy adapters or buy different fans)

You can then use them for front, side, and rear panels and have a spare or two left over in all likelihood.

Then if you need 120mm fans than can be mounted on the top or bottom of your case, you can currently get this pretty good fluid dynamic bearing fan for cheap at amazon if you're willing to wait up to 2 months to get it (it's backordered at the $4.99 price): http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Cooling.../dp/B002KTVFTE

Chances are you will be fine even without the top/bottom fans, though. I would just go without any top/bottom for a while and see how your temps are. If they are okay, then don't bother getting top/bottom fans unless you foresee an increased need for cooling in the future.

 

[Renegade_09]

honestly I don't even think I need any more fans. I'm not planning to overclock and maybe adding more fans to it will probably add more noise. Everything seems to be running cool already but if I can get it cooler and even more quiet then that would be better.
Those prices don't really apply to me since I'm in Canada.

I have two more 3 pin system fan on my MSI boards. There's a total of four that it supports and one CPU fan. I'm probably going to just add a front and top mount fan. I've heard the side mount fan on the Fractal Design R3 adds a lot of noise

edit: I can get the Artic cool fans for maybe $3.94 actually with NCIX pricematch.
http://www.computers-canada.ca/store/products/1027015110/AFACO-12000-GBA01/Arctic%20Cooling/
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=68297

 

[Ninnetyer]

This is not correct. The performance ranking is correct, but the heat ranking is backwards.

Both at 4.2 GHz, IVB will slightly outperform SB:
IVB will produce less heat than SB, but have a higher temperature than SB.

Can I ask what is the difference between heat and higher temperature ?
Both sounds the same to me (so reading your comment its contradictory (less heat but higher temps)), maybe because I don't speak English natively.

BTW I'm thinking of getting an IB or SB not decide it yet, planning oc it to 4.2 so reading all this comments it seems is better to stick with IB.
But now I'm afraid to OC it. :|