Building a new System!! Need Advice!! :)

[rahulmax]

I think you meant the 2gb version? coz i'm getting a 1gb version, in-fact it doesn't come below 1gb.

 

[fastamdman]

Nope what I said is what I meant heh. I would go with the 1gb version if I were in your shoes because you are running at such a low resolution, saves you more cash.

 

[rahulmax]

Oh ok.. yeah i am getting that one only because of my resolution i am getting a zotac 560 ti 1gb (not the amp version)

 

[lehtv]

As I've stated your resolution doesn't need a 560 Ti. A 6850/6870 will play anything on your resolution perfectly fine. I play with an overclocked 560 Ti on 1920x1080 and have no framerate issues on high settings. 1080p is 60% more pixels to be filled, while 560 Ti is only about 30-40% faster than a 6850 and 10-20% faster than 6870. Don't waste your cash bro

 

[fastamdman]

I agree that a cheaper gpu is needed but if you have the cash then by all means grab it. Also we gotta remember he is in BFE so prices could be horrendous for some cards while reasonable for others

List your gpu prices for 6850/6870 in USD and we will let you know

 

[rahulmax]

6850 is $160-180 (approx)

6870 is $210-$230

GTX 560 TI : $256
BUT I HATE RADEON CARDS (tho i have never ever used one,but i love nvidia so much

I was thinking about gtx 460 first But then found that lovely card gtx 560 ti <3

 

[rahulmax]

As I've stated your resolution doesn't need a 560 Ti. A 6850/6870 will play anything on your resolution perfectly fine. I play with an overclocked 560 Ti on 1920x1080 and have no framerate issues on high settings. 1080p is 60% more pixels to be filled, while 560 Ti is only about 30-40% faster than a 6850 and 10-20% faster than 6870. Don't waste your cash bro

I completely understand what you are saying bro. My mind can understand what you are saying but my heart is yearning for gtx 560 ti .

FUCK YOU HEART

 

[fastamdman]

The 460s are nice too, really great in sli! I would go 560ti personally Speed ftw! *especially since your not oc'ing your cpu*

 

[rahulmax]

Technically 560 ti is overkill for my resolution but who cares and eventually aftr sometime i will change my monitor and also i will get great fps in this resolution.

 

[rahulmax]

One more question: This motherboard only have 2 memory slots , as i will be installing the hyper 212 plus and i have heard the fan of this heatsink covers the first memory slot. so if i put the gskill 4gb ram in the second slot will it be running at full 1600 or it will lower down to 1066 or 1333.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131787

As i can see here it only supports 1333 and 1066 . I am a noob please tell me what does it mean and if i put the 4 gb in the second slot out of the two will it decrease my performance?

 

[fastamdman]

If you are only running 1 stick you don't have to worry about speeds since you don't have dual channel. Dual channel is running 2 sticks, single channel is 1 stick. The speeds are rated by the ram, so if you have 1333 ram you can run 1333 on your board which is your max.

Still buy 1600 ram though its cheap and you can use it later on.

edit, just make sure the ram is 1.5voltage.

edit2, after looking at the board the hyper 212+ should clear it without issue. It also depends on how you have it mounted and where the fans at etc. For example I have mine mounted left and right so the fan is on the bottom and it blows out the top case fan.

 

[lehtv]

Hyper 212+ won't interfere with standard sized RAM (i.e. low-profile), and small extended heatspreaders like Ripjaws will still fit since the cooler fan can be raised a bit

Don't love the 560 Ti, you should hate it instead. All that money it steals and gives so little in return, that evil piece of...

It's not a valid point that you may upgrade your monitor later. By the time you do upgrade, there will be better bang-for-buck cards around, i.e. next-gen or 28nm. It will be then a better idea to sell the 6850 and buy a new card for 1080p. Preferably one with more than 1GB VRAM. Think of that $80 difference between 6850 and 560 Ti that you could use towards a GPU upgrade along with the new monitor.

 

[fastamdman]

I am all for him getting a better monitor =D.

 

[mfenn]

BUT I HATE RADEON CARDS (tho i have never ever used one,but i love nvidia so much

Huh? How do you hate something that you have never used? Right now, in your situation, the 6850/6870 is the best bet. Here's what I would do:

i5 2400 - you aren't overclocking and the i5 2400 is a whopping 200Mhz slower than the 2500
H61 mobo - no performance difference between that than H67 or Z68
8GB of DDR3 1333 - it's cheap and you won't see any performance difference
6850 - you have a very low and sad resolution

 

[fastamdman]

Good call on the i5 2400. There are performance differences between those motherboards, but none he will notice just to be clear <3. If he gets a 560ti he can use it later on instead of having to sell the 6850 if he feels its not as powerful as hes wanting. Either way though if its a cheap rig, I would go 6850, I mean whatever you buy is gonna be bottlenecked by your monitor lol. You should get a cheap gpu and save for a nice monitor. Hell get a used monitor if you have to.

 

[mfenn]

You should get a cheap gpu and save for a nice monitor. Hell get a used monitor if you have to.

Agree. The monitor is the thing that you stare at all day, so it is one of the most important parts of the computer IMHO.

 

[fastamdman]

I agree mfenn, but then again it really depends on what the computer is being used for and how often it's being used. For example when I played counter-strike professionally we ALL used giant CRT monitors and ran the lowest res possible, 640x480. Nothing fancy was needed because that was the "best" way of doing it

 

[mfenn]

I agree mfenn, but then again it really depends on what the computer is being used for and how often it's being used. For example when I played counter-strike professionally we ALL used giant CRT monitors and ran the lowest res possible, 640x480. Nothing fancy was needed because that was the "best" way of doing it

I think that the OP has answered those pretty conclusively throughout this thread. He wants to play new games with nice looking graphics, therefore a new monitor with a good resolution and colors is appropriate.

 

[fastamdman]

Oh I agree I am just saying for some people fast rigs and crappy monitors are ok heh. I do think the op should somehow someway get a new monitor though =D. Even if its a local deal it would help out a ton!

 

[rahulmax]

Guys, tomorrow i am going to buy all the stuff yay!! m so excited I live in new delhi, so firstly i'll be going to wazirpur, the second biggest computer market after nehru place in delhi. Nehru place is pretty far from where i live and i know the money difference between these two places won't be much, it'd be like $5-$10 max!!

Here's fianlly what i am gonna buy tomorrow :

intel core i5 2500k

asus h61 motherboard

zotac gtx 560 ti gfx

corsair gs 600w psu

gskill 1600mhz 4gbx1 (may be ill buy another one if my pocket allows)

coolermaster hyper 212+

coolermaster elite 430 cabinet

wish me luck!! and any final thoughts?

 

[fastamdman]

Ram is so cheap right now it doesn't make sense to grab a single 4gb stick. Either go 2x2gb and live with 4gb of ram or go with 2x4gb and run 8gb. In the states 8gb of ram is under 40 bucks right now.

If you have the option of getting a cheaper PSU and cheaper case for a better motherboard though do it You never know what you might be able to find.

Just remember that the h61 is the worst motherboard. It goes z68>p67>the rest of the junk.

Also if you don't plan on overclocking now or later on, you might as well not get the K series, just grab the 2500 non k.

 

[lehtv]

Should not combo 2500K with a H61 motherboard. It's a CPU with an unlocked multiplier, but the motherboard can't overclock. Get the i5-2500 or i5-2400 if you don't overclock. Also you don't need an aftermarket cooler. Or perhaps you intended to OC and didn't know H61 can't do that? If so, swap to a Z68 board like Asrock Z68 Pro3.

What are you planning to do about the monitor? If you keep it, you're overspending on the GPU as stated a couple of times previously. Your resolution doesn't need a 560 Ti.

While Corsair GS600 is a good unit, you don't need that much power if you don't OC. Corsair CX500 V2 would be fine.

With the above savings you can easily afford 2x4GB DDR3.

 

[mfenn]

Should not combo 2500K with a H61 motherboard. It's a CPU with an unlocked multiplier, but the motherboard can't overclock. Get the i5-2500 or i5-2400 if you don't overclock. Also you don't need an aftermarket cooler. Or perhaps you intended to OC and didn't know H61 can't do that? If so, swap to a Z68 board like Asrock Z68 Pro3.

What are you planning to do about the monitor? If you keep it, you're overspending on the GPU as stated a couple of times previously. Your resolution doesn't need a 560 Ti.

While Corsair GS600 is a good unit, you don't need that much power if you don't OC. Corsair CX500 V2 would be fine.

With the above savings you can easily afford 2x4GB DDR3.

Agree with this. There is nothing wrong with H61 from a performance point of view because it will perform exactly the same at stock speeds as a Z68. You just can't overclock with an H61.

 

[rahulmax]

Finally went out today and sold my old cabinet + 450w psu + g31 motherboard+ 8600gt graphic card+ pentium 4 3.2ghz processor + 1.5gb ddr2 ram --- All this for just 2100 rupees or $42 .

And bought i5 2500 + asus h61 + gskill 4gb ram + zotac gtx 560 ti graphic card + corsair gs 600 psu + cooler master elite 430 cabinet + hyper 212 plus --- All this for just 37000
Rupees or $740

Will be assembling it tomorrow because the graphic card and psu were not available and had to be ordered, ill get them tomorrow.

Ill have to get a new dvd writer as well as m told that i wont be able to use my sony dvd writer in the new rig as it is not SATA... So +$20

 

[mfenn]

:thumbsup: Looks like a pretty decent haul. I would have gotten the i5 2400 since you will not be overclocking though, could have saved a bit a money.