Building a new pc , is it worth going to SSD or should i stick with SATA

[Voo]

You do realize that fast resume and hard drive are completely unrelated, right?

At least if the lap was hibernating that's not true, isn't it? Iirc windows writes everything in the RAM onto the drive and loads it back when resuming - which clearly is bottlenecked by the drive and not the RAM.

 

[Machupo]

I'll echo many here and say that once you get SSDs, you won't go back... especially on a laptop or other "quieter" system (the difference is pretty impressive). If you've got 5x 120mm YS Tech screamers, you're not going to hear a difference, but it's creepy how quiet my laptop is now.

The whole idea behind making your system faster is determining your needs and then ensuring that you can get the data to the processor fast enough to keep it busy. I went with 12gb of ram on the desktop because I needed to work with huge data sets, but I also went with a pair of SSD's in R0 because I like being able to load programs and use the computer at a rate to which I've become accustomed. Keeping my programs microseconds away from the processing units makes my computing experience feel much smoother.

That being said, mass storage on SSDs is totally impractical. The price/size ratio is just too high to support storing your porn on an SSD (and if you can't wait that long, then it's time to get a gf, lol). For things like this I would suggest a decent array of spindle disks (i've got 8x WD Green TB's in R5 for movies, tv, and "other stuff"). Even on an array and with fairly slow HDDs, this stuff streams HD just fine.

Long story short, it comes down to knowing the data sizes you're going to use with the computer, the frequency they will have to be fetched, and trying to echelon your storage to ensure that the processor is kept busy to the highest degree possible.

 

[ShawnD1]

At least if the lap was hibernating that's not true, isn't it? Iirc windows writes everything in the RAM onto the drive and loads it back when resuming - which clearly is bottlenecked by the drive and not the RAM.

When is the last time you've seen anyone use hibernate? It's such an old feature that it's not even enabled by default. To enable it in Windows Vista, the user must type console commands.

I made a youtube video to show what S3 boot time is like when using a terrible hard drive. Rougly 22 seconds. If you search around youtube for a video of SSD boot time from a hard shut down (which nobody does), it's roughly 36 seconds.
This is the reason my laptop's factory defaults are to sleep when the power button is pushed, sleep when the lid is closed, and sleep when the batteries are low. These machines are not intended to be truned off, so doing boot tests from a hard shut down are just silly.

Improved reliability is probably the main reason to get a solid state drive in a laptop. If you're looking at boot time, you're getting it for the wrong reasons.

 

[sailingtaz]

Interesting comments.

Hibernate was enabled as default in Win7 on my install. BTW, hibernate was not optimal in in the last few years when computers had fairly large amount of RAM -- 2 to 4GB -- which took too long to write to the HDD : In fact hibernate was disabled for computers with 4GB or more RAM. With the advent of SSDs' faster performance, it is a viable option.

As I recall, when my lappy goes into sleep, the HD churns for a while, and same when resuming. Something is getting written/read.

As for the videos ShawnD1 refers to in the last post, the computers in comparo video are using Vista which we all know is a dog when it comes to hard boot/sd. The other video recorded by ShawnD1 shows Win7 boot.

Apple-orange comparo notwithstanding, the same video also shows the lappy with SSD taking only half the time to load the OS to the logon screen (who knows how much more time the HDD took to get to idle after logon compared to SSD.)

 

[bryanW1995]

Hahaha.

Everybody who has an ssd except 1 swears by it. Anand lal shimpi thinks it is the single greatest upgrade for an existing system. however, cmdrdredd got his raptor for 1/2 price and would never ever EVER consider an ssd. hmmm, which way to go...