Question Build Advice - Gaming/flight sim/VR New Build ~$3000 for Tower, mostly complete, LOTS of questions - Updated 7/21

[athrowaway2242]

OR should I just get this kit for all the cables? seems the asia horse one doesnt come with all the cables I need and that this kit might have more of what I need. With the price of the cable kit plus the PSU I probably wouldve saved money getting a white PSU from the get go - but at this point things are mounted and I dont really feel like returning the PSU and cable kit and rebuying a new PSU

Plan 1 - keep the PSU and return the asia horse kit I bought, and instead buy this asia horse extensions kit and this direct cable

Plan 2 - keep the PSU and return the asia horse kit I bought, but instead by this all in one direct cable replacement kit

Plan 3 - return the PSU and asia horse kit and instead buy a white PSU - least desirable option unless theres a real safety/performance reason to do so.

Anyone have reccomendations for which plan? Plan 1 is the cheapest and easiest, plan 2 is more money but simpler, plan 3 is the most work and is a wash on price.

 

[Tech Junky]

Option 3 because it will be a cleaner setup and no risk of the wire gauge being reduced and thus less risk of meltdown.

 

[athrowaway2242]

Option 3 because it will be a cleaner setup and no risk of the wire gauge being reduced and thus less risk of meltdown.

'sigh'

Well okay then - Im going to go with the ASUS ROG Strix 1000W PSU Aura White and return all the extension kits and the seasonic PSU then

Unless anyone else has any suggestions for a white PSU? I was looking at the corsair shift, but I like that the ROG Strix has the dedicated 12VHPWR port

 

[Tech Junky]

My first choice usually ends up being my final choice. If your gut says go Asus then go for it

 

[manly]

Both are fine choices, but I'll submit the Leadex VII that crushes many reviews:

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-vii-xg-1000w-1000-w/p/1HU-024C-00059

 

[igor_kavinski]

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-vii-xg-1000w-1000-w/p/1HU-024C-00059

When I see the brand name "Super Flower", I suddenly feel like I'm in an enclosed space surrounded on all sides by pads and tampons!

 

[In2Photos]

The cables are coming the extension kits are much nicer than most of the cables that come with PSUs. They typically have better cable combs as well.

I have to ask though when did you change PSUs so that the original kit didn't work?

 

[athrowaway2242]

The cables are coming the extension kits are much nicer than most of the cables that come with PSUs. They typically have better cable combs as well.

I have to ask though when did you change PSUs so that the original kit didn't work?

I didnt
It’s not that the original kit didn’t work, it’s that it was missing a lot of the cables

Didn’t have enough cables for the CPU or PCIe or SATA connectors to all be white as well

Also, I preferred a kit that does 16th 12VhPWR direct compared to the ones that require 3 of the PCIe psu cables to one 12VHPWR since that took up most of my expansion power slots and left the 12VHPWR unused.

Hence why if I was going to swap it out I could’ve kept the seasonic PSU and gone with the 16pin to 16pin cablemod cable and a different kit that has more of the cables, but at that price it ended up being cheaper and simpler to use the asus rog strix PSU

 

[In2Photos]

I didnt
It’s not that the original kit didn’t work, it’s that it was missing a lot of the cables

Didn’t have enough cables for the CPU or PCIe or SATA connectors to all be white as well

Also, I preferred a kit that does 16th 12VhPWR direct compared to the ones that require 3 of the PCIe psu cables to one 12VHPWR since that took up most of my expansion power slots and left the 12VHPWR unused.

Hence why if I was going to swap it out I could’ve kept the seasonic PSU and gone with the 16pin to 16pin cablemod cable and a different kit that has more of the cables, but at that price it ended up being cheaper and simpler to use the asus rog strix PSU

Your parts list has a Corsair RM1000x?

You should only need 1-24 pin, 2-8pin EPS, and 1-12VHPWR. None of the SATA power cables should be visible so why do you need white? The kit you bought had all of that.

 

[athrowaway2242]

Your parts list has a Corsair RM1000x?

You should only need 1-24 pin, 2-8pin EPS, and 1-12VHPWR. None of the SATA power cables should be visible so why do you need white? The kit you bought had all of that.

Ah, i made last second switch to seasonic due to significant price hike at the time of the corsair and a sale on the seasonic.

 

[In2Photos]

Ah, i made last second switch to seasonic due to significant price hike at the time of the corsair and a sale on the seasonic.

Ok. So just get the white kit with the native 12VHPWR instead of the 3 PCI adapter and call it a day.

 

[athrowaway2242]

Ok. So just get the white kit with the native 12VHPWR instead of the 3 PCI adapter and call it a day.

unfortunately already swapped for the ASUS ROG Strix PSU...oh well, next time I can try to figure out the adapters better


reposting from the fan thread to keep it in one place -

Okay - so I think I was confused originally, and now heres the situation

I have 3 TL LCD fans, 3 TL regular fans, and 4 SL fans

It seems now that I need to have two controllers because the SL fans do not connect with the TL controller. WHich would mean returning the SL fans and buying all TL fans...because I am out of ARGB headers on the motherboard (one for case, one for AIO, one for TL controller)


Although - my reading on this suggests that if using L connect software, that I do not in fact need the ARGB just a USB header to control the lighting. Is this true? if I just dont plug in the ARGB from the second controller, the RGB will still work with the USB connected?

Thank you!

Or it seems another option is to just get an ARGB header splitter?

Anyone confirm before I unbox the SL fans and start mounting?


Also as an aside - the AORUS master 4080 SUPER is chonky....it barely fits...im using the lian li vertical mount kit (which is not very sturdy) with some fancy bending of the riser cable...the clearance for this card is insane. it is still sagging a little too much for my taste, so I am buying these GPU support brackets to just stand under the far end and brace it against the fan. maybe its not needed. maybe its maybelline...maybe the thought of this heavy gpu snapping itself off is scaring me. I dont know but ill feel better with the braces on it however silly they might look.

 

[igor_kavinski]

it is still sagging a little too much for my taste, so I am buying these GPU support brackets to just stand under the far end and brace it against the fan. maybe its not needed. maybe its maybelline...maybe the thought of this heavy gpu snapping itself off is scaring me. I dont know but ill feel better with the braces on it however silly they might look.

I would do the same. In fact, I wouldn't let my case be upright even WITH a support bracket. These 4000 series GPUs are the worst fat GPUs ever (in terms of chonkiness). I think the only safe way to use these GPUs is to use a PCIe extension cable and not plug them directly into the mobo PCIe slot. Mobos are NOT designed for fat cards. It's just dang Nvidia that decided it was fine to do that. AMD didn't choose to go higher than 7900 XTX for this very reason I think because the card would've gotten wayyy too fat and heavy.

 

[In2Photos]

unfortunately already swapped for the ASUS ROG Strix PSU...oh well, next time I can try to figure out the adapters better


reposting from the fan thread to keep it in one place -

Anyone confirm before I unbox the SL fans and start mounting?


Also as an aside - the AORUS master 4080 SUPER is chonky....it barely fits...im using the lian li vertical mount kit (which is not very sturdy) with some fancy bending of the riser cable...the clearance for this card is insane. it is still sagging a little too much for my taste, so I am buying these GPU support brackets to just stand under the far end and brace it against the fan. maybe its not needed. maybe its maybelline...maybe the thought of this heavy gpu snapping itself off is scaring me. I dont know but ill feel better with the braces on it however silly they might look.

Use the USB header and L-connect software, not the argb headers. You have to use L-connect for the LCD screens anyway. You get RGB and fan control in one application. And it's way better than the motherboard software.

What I did in mine is mount the vertical GPU bracket so that it sits on the bottom fans. No need for a separate support. Your card is bigger though.

 

[athrowaway2242]

Use the USB header and L-connect software, not the argb headers. You have to use L-connect for the LCD screens anyway. You get RGB and fan control in one application. And it's way better than the motherboard software.

What I did in mine is mount the vertical GPU bracket so that it sits on the bottom fans. No need for a separate support. Your card is bigger though.

Gotcha, okay I will do that.

Yea even with that I probably need a support brace its huge. But I like that idea. at least half the bracket can sit right on the fans. Any issues with noise/vibration from that? I think I can do that by just mounting it in the bottom 5 holes instead of the top 5. Might give that a shot thank you!

 

[In2Photos]

Gotcha, okay I will do that.

Yea even with that I probably need a support brace its huge. But I like that idea. at least half the bracket can sit right on the fans. Any issues with noise/vibration from that? I think I can do that by just mounting it in the bottom 5 holes instead of the top 5. Might give that a shot thank you!

That's where mine is, the bottom 5 slots. I wanted to keep it lower so the tubes from the AIO didn't rub the GPU. Since the unifans have a rubberized texture on the corners they act like isolators so I have no issues with rattling/noise. Here is a couple of pictures of mine for reference.

 

[athrowaway2242]

Use the USB header and L-connect software, not the argb headers. You have to use L-connect for the LCD screens anyway. You get RGB and fan control in one application. And it's way better than the motherboard software.

What I did in mine is mount the vertical GPU bracket so that it sits on the bottom fans. No need for a separate support. Your card is bigger though.

do istill need to connect the fans to a fan port on the motherboard?

Right now its set up like this, ive unplugged all the aRGB except from the EK Nucleus AIO and the case

1- EK nucleus AIO - aRGB, CPU_OPT
2- 3 TL LCD fans on radiator - Lian Li TL controller->USB header1 AND CPU_FAN,
3- 3 TL LED fans on bottom of case - Lian Li TL controller->USB header1 AND CPU_FAN,
4- 3 SL LED fans on top of case - Lian Li SL controller -> USB header 2 AND SYS_FAN
5- 1 SL LED fan back of case - Lian Li SL controller -> USB header 2 AND SYS_FAN

Do the controllers need to be plugged into CPU_FAN and SYS_FAN respectively? or just only the USB headers?

 

[athrowaway2242]

That's where mine is, the bottom 5 slots. I wanted to keep it lower so the tubes from the AIO didn't rub the GPU. Since the unifans have a rubberized texture on the corners they act like isolators so I have no issues with rattling/noise. Here is a couple of pictures of mine for reference.

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That looks great! I just tried mine down on the fans and I agree thats a good spot. I did get an extra small brace that I will wedge between the fan and the back of the card...just for extra peace of mind

 

[In2Photos]

do istill need to connect the fans to a fan port on the motherboard?

Right now its set up like this, ive unplugged all the aRGB except from the EK Nucleus AIO and the case

1- EK nucleus AIO - aRGB, CPU_OPT
2- 3 TL LCD fans on radiator - Lian Li TL controller->USB header1 AND CPU_FAN,
3- 3 TL LED fans on bottom of case - Lian Li TL controller->USB header1 AND CPU_FAN,
4- 3 SL LED fans on top of case - Lian Li SL controller -> USB header 2 AND SYS_FAN
5- 1 SL LED fan back of case - Lian Li SL controller -> USB header 2 AND SYS_FAN

Do the controllers need to be plugged into CPU_FAN and SYS_FAN respectively? or just only the USB headers?

Just the USB headers. No FAN headers needed.

 

[athrowaway2242]

Just the USB headers. No FAN headers needed.

Thanks. Well I screwed up another thing - the rear fan I bought is a 140mm because I guess i misread that somewhere. Seems the case only takes a 120mm fan in the rear. will have to swap the 140mm for a 120mm

 

[In2Photos]

Thanks. Well I screwed up another thing - the rear fan I bought is a 140mm because I guess i misread that somewhere. Seems the case only takes a 120mm fan in the rear. will have to swap the 140mm for a 120mm

Oops. I didn't install a rear fan. I was leaving that open in case I decide to add a sensor panel. You could try the system without the rear fan unless you just want the extra RGB. Mine is fine without it.

 

[athrowaway2242]

Oops. I didn't install a rear fan. I was leaving that open in case I decide to add a sensor panel. You could try the system without the rear fan unless you just want the extra RGB. Mine is fine without it.

ooh...whats a sensor panel it sounds fancy lol

 

[athrowaway2242]

The cables are coming the extension kits are much nicer than most of the cables that come with PSUs. They typically have better cable combs as well.

I have to ask though when did you change PSUs so that the original kit didn't work?

I see what you mean about the cable combs. the ASUS STRIX PSU doesnt come with any....but thats something I can just order a set of right?
Something like this?

 

[In2Photos]

ooh...whats a sensor panel it sounds fancy lol

Like this https://images.app.goo.gl/7VvoRGdau7fXiJg78

 

[In2Photos]

I see what you mean about the cable combs. the ASUS STRIX PSU doesnt come with any....but thats something I can just order a set of right?
Something like this?

Yeah that should work. There's no specific ones for the 12vhpwr so you'll have to be creative with that one.