Budget deal cuts benefits for disabled veterans

[Agent11]

"I was deeply troubled when my staff and I discovered that even individuals who have been wounded and suffered a service-related disability could see their pensions reduced under this plan," Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., announced in a Tuesday morning statement.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., argued that members of Congress have made comparable fiscal sacrifices as he defended cutting the military retirees' benefits.

"We have taken pretty big cuts," Schumer said Monday on MSNBC. "We haven't had a pay raise in a long time, and with the health care [law] most of us are paying more, stuff like that."

Sessions proposed a bill that would insulate the military from such cuts by paying their retirement benefits with money he believes is currently going to illegal immigrants.

Every Democrat and 12 Republican senators voted for this.

 

[theeedude]

Screwing the veterans to make more room for defense spending under sequester caps? I am shocked, shocked I tell ya.
Here is a loophole they can and should (but won't) close instead.

 

[boomerang]

Regardless, the loophole that allows illegals to get IRS payments through the Additional Child Tax Credit should be closed. LOL at Schumer bellyaching about his "sacrifice". He and the rest of them should be part time with commensurate pay. They're already working part time, let's just start compensating them at a part time level.

 

[theeedude]

Regardless, the loophole that allows illegals to get IRS payments through the Additional Child Tax Credit should be closed. LOL at Schumer bellyaching about his "sacrifice". He and the rest of them should be part time with commensurate pay. They're already working part time, let's just start compensating them at a part time level.

Illegals are already prohibited from getting IRS payments, so there is no loophole. Here is a real loophole that should be closed:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...k-saves-wealthiest-americans-100-billion.html

 

[boomerang]

Illegals are already prohibited from getting IRS payments, so there is no loophole. Here is a real loophole that should be closed:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...k-saves-wealthiest-americans-100-billion.html

Why do you continually put your ignorance on display? Just once, try looking at the world with both eyes open instead of just your left one.

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/12/sen_jeff_sessions_leave_milita.html

Those cuts could be avoided, Sessions said, by fixing a loophole that allows people in the country illegally to receive IRS payments through the Additional Child Tax Credit.

The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration has called on Congress to close the loophole that allows for average payments of about $1,800, even if the recipient has paid no taxes.

Federal law bars illegal immigrants from collecting tax benefits, like the Earned Income Tax Credit, that can be claimed by residents with Social Security numbers. However, the child tax credit provision does not require a tax return to include a Social Security number, allowing the ACTC to be claimed by illegal immigrants.

According to a 2011 report by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, millions of people without valid Social Security numbers received a total of $4.2 billion in ACTC in 2010 - up from $924 million in 2005. The IRS is expected to issue some $7.4 billion in ACTC payouts this year.

 

[Incorruptible]

Gotta love big government. These idiots want to cut the benefits for these veterans yet moan about cuts to welfare leeches.

 

[Agent11]

Just tried searching Schumer on msnbc. Reminds me why I hate them. . . It's too bad because I kind of like Rachel Maddow.

 

[Jhhnn]

So, uhh, err, who's been screaming Cut! cut! Cut! for the last 5 years, anyway?

Mighty convenient pushing it off on to illegals, as well. It's a twofer in the right-wing-o-sphere- getting all gushy about vets, who they don't give a fuck about, while blaming the powerless instead of the powerful.

The Teatards are lined up for miles to get their chance to go down on that. Pucker up, you'll love it.

 

[theeedude]

Why do you continually put your ignorance on display? Just once, try looking at the world with both eyes open instead of just your left one.

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/12/sen_jeff_sessions_leave_milita.html

The child could be an American, even if parent is illegal. The credit is for the child.
Close the estate tax loophole, then we can talk about closing loopholes for tax credits for children.

 

[boomerang]

The child could be an American, even if parent is illegal. The credit is for the child.
Close the estate tax loophole, then we can talk about closing loopholes for tax credits for children.

Congrats, you've removed all doubt for anyone that had some. Liberalism is a mental disorder and you're the poster child.

 

[Anarchist420]

they obviously did this to piss people off because if they were really serious about cutting spending then they'd turn the VA facilities over to the States.

Close the estate tax loophole, then we can talk about closing loopholes for tax credits for children.

closing the estate tax "loophole" wont hardly bring in jack dempsey shit.

 

[piasabird]

There are like 100's of things like Obama Phones that could be cut from the budget. If we are going to cut disability for the military then cut disability for SS, and SSI. Why is one better than the other?

Quit sending soldiers to kill Muslims. That will save more money.

 

[piasabird]

If you send the military to a foreign country to die then you better be prepared to pay them disability.

 

[piasabird]

Cut food stamps and welfare first.

 

[glenn1]

Cut food stamps and welfare first.

Instead of food stamps and welfare, just give the urban poor weapons and let them forage for survival - plenty of food, shelter, and supplies in the downtown loft areas and tony parts of the city like Georgetown in DC. Sort of "A Modest Proposal" in reverse.

 

[Mxylplyx]

So, uhh, err, who's been screaming Cut! cut! Cut! for the last 5 years, anyway?

Mighty convenient pushing it off on to illegals, as well. It's a twofer in the right-wing-o-sphere- getting all gushy about vets, who they don't give a fuck about, while blaming the powerless instead of the powerful.

The Teatards are lined up for miles to get their chance to go down on that. Pucker up, you'll love it.

They wear their flag lapel pin like any other good American, so they have earned every right to send our soldiers off to fight pointless wars and get maimed and killed by the thousands. All those tear jerker soldier reunion videos make it all worth it anyways.

 

[theeedude]

Congrats, you've removed all doubt for anyone that had some. Liberalism is a mental disorder and you're the poster child.

Congrats on another no content personal attack post. :thumbsup:

 

[theeedude]

they obviously did this to piss people off because if they were really serious about cutting spending then they'd turn the VA facilities over to the States.

closing the estate tax "loophole" wont hardly bring in jack dempsey shit.

$100B. How much will closing the tax credit to low income children bring? $5B?

 

[Incorruptible]

They should have cut the salaries and benefits of the politicians. Cuts to welfare would also have been better than what they did with this.

 

[Jhhnn]

They should have cut the salaries and benefits of the politicians. Cuts to welfare would also have been better than what they did with this.

That's right- attack the weak, show us what stern stuff you're made of. Or maybe you're just demonstrating what kind of broke dick idiocy it takes to claim suffering at the hands of the powerless. Just cut Welfare- that'll solve everything.

Don't you have a War on Christmas discussion going somewhere?

 

[1prophet]

The child could be an American, even if parent is illegal. The credit is for the child.
Close the estate tax loophole, then we can talk about closing loopholes for tax credits for children.

One better if corporations are people have them pay tax on their overseas income just like any other American living overseas,

or else they can incorporate themselves in whatever country they so desire and register themselves as a foreign company when they want to do business in the USA, just like individuals who renounce their American citizenship in order not to pay US taxes.

 

[hal2kilo]

Screwing the veterans to make more room for defense spending under sequester caps? I am shocked, shocked I tell ya.
Here is a loophole they can and should (but won't) close instead.

Well we obviously can't make the wealthy whoes wealth is in part secured by our armed forces sacrifice. They got to take care of us takers.

 

[NoCreativity]

Not sure how reliable this source is but it sounds like the budget deal does not make said cuts...

Third, the reduction does not affect those who suffered physical and mental wounds during their service. Disability compensation is paid through the Veterans’ Administration and will not be affected by this provision.

 

[Incorruptible]

That's right- attack the weak, show us what stern stuff you're made of. Or maybe you're just demonstrating what kind of broke dick idiocy it takes to claim suffering at the hands of the powerless. Just cut Welfare- that'll solve everything.

Don't you have a War on Christmas discussion going somewhere?

That's right- act like an idiot and use fear mongering. You don't have a right to other peoples money. It should be based on private charity not government stealing like this. Welfare is a massive waste of money.

I have actually been physically attacked by scumbags like you and your ilk and I didn't back down. Show everyone how tough you are attacking people on P&N when you would get your ass kicked if you did the real thing.

 

[BUnit1701]

That's right- attack the weak, show us what stern stuff you're made of. Or maybe you're just demonstrating what kind of broke dick idiocy it takes to claim suffering at the hands of the powerless. Just cut Welfare- that'll solve everything.

Don't you have a War on Christmas discussion going somewhere?

And combat disabled veterans are not 'the weak'?