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Staver

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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Malladine
Ok, so Coprenicus [1:171:6] is attacking me. In 1 hr and 5 minutes his fleet of 18 ships (wtf?! I only saw 1 heavy fighter a couple of hours ago...) arrives. I have 3 missile launches, 3 light fighters and 2 small lasers. I'm done for right? I only have 1k M 1k C and 4k D but still...

Should I fleetsave my 3 lights?

Requesting retaliatory aid from the alliance!

if you fleetsave your ships and carry as many resources as you can it should be no big loss. send them on an attack to an inactive player that you know has no defense and make sure they return AFTER those attackers arrive!

If you do this set the speed on 10% then recall it after the attack. He can attack you 3 times in 24 hours.
 

Malladine

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Problem is both my cargo ships are out collecting resources from a defenseless inactive :p

Oh well, he can take all I have. When my cargo ships arrived i'll have that and more back. I wonder if I can scrape another small laser in time...6 defense installations and 3 lights vs 18 unknown ships. Assuming 15 of those are lights and say 3 heavy, do I have a chance in hell or would I just be throwing my resources away and wasting my LFs?
 

Turkish

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Originally posted by: Malladine
Turkish, what would it take to successfully raid a planet defended by 191 missile launchers, in your esteemed estimation? He has 37k deuterium and 27k crystal waiting to be taken.

Grats on the victory :beer:

Well, depends on technologies. You can see the shield and weapon power of each attack unit by clicking on their name at the Tech page. So just gotta have enough ships with a total weapon power that could beat the shield power of missile launchers :)
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Malladine
Turkish, what would it take to successfully raid a planet defended by 191 missile launchers, in your esteemed estimation? He has 37k deuterium and 27k crystal waiting to be taken.

Grats on the victory :beer:

I was trying to run a few scenarios on SpeedSim against 191 missile launchers and it's really not pretty. It's not worth going after him at this point

 

Turkish

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Malladine
Ok, so Coprenicus [1:171:6] is attacking me. In 1 hr and 5 minutes his fleet of 18 ships (wtf?! I only saw 1 heavy fighter a couple of hours ago...) arrives. I have 3 missile launches, 3 light fighters and 2 small lasers. I'm done for right? I only have 1k M 1k C and 4k D but still...

Should I fleetsave my 3 lights?

Requesting retaliatory aid from the alliance!

yeah, just send away your light figthers

and spend all the resources you can on stuff, so he can't take them away... even building metal or crystal storage would help but start that just before he reaches your planet so you can cancel the production of it when the combat is over and he is headed back home and you can get your resources back when you cancel the production :)
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Malladine
Problem is both my cargo ships are out collecting resources from a defenseless inactive :p

Oh well, he can take all I have. When my cargo ships arrived i'll have that and more back. I wonder if I can scrape another small laser in time...6 defense installations and 3 lights vs 18 unknown ships. Assuming 15 of those are lights and say 3 heavy, do I have a chance in hell or would I just be throwing my resources away and wasting my LFs?

Ran a scenario: 18 light fighters vs 3 light fighters + 6 light laser. attacker wins 100% with minimal losses
 

Turkish

Lifer
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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Turkish
w00t, some guy had attacked and me and failed miserably :) Debris Field: 110,000 Metal, 168,000 Crystal :) Sent 11 Recyclers to collect them, will get here in about 14 minutes :)

wow, paste the combat report here!

did you lose much in the attack? any ships go down?

already deleted the report but i have my shield and weapon techs pretty high and my light fighters were gone for a raid, so cruisers were the only fighters around (good shields). didnt lose anything :) the guy was nuts for attacking me.
 

Malladine

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Can you link me to speedsim Iozina?

Thanks for the advice guys, looks like i'll be able to save my metal, crystal and the LFs but not the 4k deuterium :(

lol, pity i can't dismantle my defenses for extra res :laugh:
 

Turkish

Lifer
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malladine, check my post above, i think the easiest way to save your resources, if you dont have any cargo ships available at the moment, is to start production of a building and then cancel it after the attack.
 

Turkish

Lifer
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Oh well, how long till he reaches your planet? Just build a small cargo ship if you have enough time :)
 

Staver

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You can spend 4000 D in Research with no problems, and if it doesn't complete until after the attack cancel it.
 

Malladine

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But I need the other resources also and only have 1500 metal 1000 crystal. Maybe 1800/1200 by the time he attacks.
 

JoPh

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found a inactive planet in the next solar system with 60k minerals. and another with lik 30k..

4 hour round trips. working on depleting them :)
 

Icepick

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Originally posted by: Icepick
Yeah, he's not doing very much construction or technology research. He's simply biding his time and pouring all of his resources into his fleet. I think he's still listed as a n00b since he doesn't have many improvements. Interesting strategy. As long as he remains in n00b status he could really dominate with that fleet. :shocked:

Actually, I think I see what they're up to. That could be a supply dump for their alliance. The members are probably sending all of their raw materials there for storage. Then they send as many of their capital ships there to protect them. When one of the alliance members is attacked they can send that fleet to retalliate. Since it's still listed as "a new player" none of the advanced players can attack them. None of the other newbies are strong enough either. It's actually a great strategy for an alliance.
 

JoPh

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Originally posted by: Turkish
malladine, check my post above, i think the easiest way to save your resources, if you dont have any cargo ships available at the moment, is to start production of a building and then cancel it after the attack.

do a crap load of galaxy searches!
 

Staver

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Originally posted by: Malladine
But I need the other resources also and only have 1500 metal 1000 crystal. Maybe 1800/1200 by the time he attacks.

Robotic Factory or Shipyard upgrade?
 

Malladine

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Originally posted by: JoPh
Originally posted by: Turkish
malladine, check my post above, i think the easiest way to save your resources, if you dont have any cargo ships available at the moment, is to start production of a building and then cancel it after the attack.

do a crap load of galaxy searches!
GOOD IDEA!

Can he destroy my espionage probes?
 

LeonarD26

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Just completed my first raid!

The fleet delivers 1969 metal, 1238 crystal and 614 deuterium

Sweet!!
 

Kelemvor

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Heh, just logged in and I'm under attack. Not sure what they're attacking since all I have are some mines. heh.

What's the best thing to do if I don't want to worry about attacking and such and just want to let my mines run and have something for Defense.

What order do I need things in and what shuld I get for defense? Not that I'll be all powerful but more just for fun to at least give attackers some sort of challenge?
 

JoPh

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Heh, just logged in and I'm under attack. Not sure what they're attacking since all I have are some mines. heh.

What's the best thing to do if I don't want to worry about attacking and such and just want to let my mines run and have something for Defense.

What order do I need things in and what shuld I get for defense? Not that I'll be all powerful but more just for fun to at least give attackers some sort of challenge?

just use up all your resources and send your ships away. make it a worthless trip.
 

Malladine

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The attacker has won the battle!
He captures
150 Metal, 225 Crystal and 273 Deuterium


The attacker has lost a total of 4000 Units.
The defender has lost a total of 10000 Units.
At these space coordinates now float 900 Metal and 300 Crystal.
1 Small Laser, 2 Missile Launcher could be repaired.

meh

He actually had 7 cargo ships 10 LF and 1 HF...man I can almost beat that! I have 2 missile 1 small laser left. I guess i'll build up small lasers for a while...