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Brown Recluse Bite

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Originally posted by: Eli
I have a spider here in a little bottle, we thought it was a black widow at first, but it's not.. looks pretty much just like one, minus the hourglass figure on its underside.

Anyway, I've been feeding it all the other spiders I come across lately. :evil:


Oh bitter irony :evil: :beer:
 
Originally posted by: Swag1138
Originally posted by: Luden
I had one of these on me last week, It came out of some bananas.. :Q


I want so badly to call BS, but I have such an irrational fear of spiders, I instantly believe you....


I work produce, And I was stocking a pallet of very green banans (meaning they were not gased so it survived & bananas as well did not ripe). It jumped (ran?) out of a box while I was downstacking the pallet onto a cart to unload onto the display. As soon as I noticed the size of the thing I quickly brushed him off.. But the problem then was that he was hiding on the display under some bananas, So I asked a coworker for some gloves and a cup (wasnt sure if I should smash him on the table due to his venom) and started shifting through the bananas (didnt want a customer to find him :Q). So after numerous tries of lifting up some bananas and having him run off I managed to get him in cup. So I let him live out a few days in the cup..

Luden.
 
Originally posted by: Swag1138
Originally posted by: Eli
I have a spider here in a little bottle, we thought it was a black widow at first, but it's not.. looks pretty much just like one, minus the hourglass figure on its underside.

Anyway, I've been feeding it all the other spiders I come across lately. :evil:


Oh bitter irony :evil: :beer:

a male black widow, perhaps?

they are slightly smaller than the females, and dont have the hourglass...
 
Originally posted by: Swag1138
Originally posted by: Eli
I have a spider here in a little bottle, we thought it was a black widow at first, but it's not.. looks pretty much just like one, minus the hourglass figure on its underside.

Anyway, I've been feeding it all the other spiders I come across lately. :evil:


Oh bitter irony :evil: :beer:
😀

There are 3 in its cage now.. All wrapped up. It's fun to watch them fight. 😉

This is actually the 2nd spider I've kept like this. See, I find a spider.. and keep it. Then I put every other spider I find into the jar. Whichever one wins, "gets" to live there. 😉

Until I put a bigger and /or smarter spider in there.......

Mwuahahahahaa...
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Swag1138
Originally posted by: Eli
I have a spider here in a little bottle, we thought it was a black widow at first, but it's not.. looks pretty much just like one, minus the hourglass figure on its underside.

Anyway, I've been feeding it all the other spiders I come across lately. :evil:


Oh bitter irony :evil: :beer:
😀

There are 3 in its cage now.. All wrapped up. It's fun to watch them fight. 😉

This is actually the 2nd spider I've kept like this. See, I find a spider.. and keep it. Then I put every other spider I find into the jar. Whichever one wins, "gets" to live there. 😉

Until I put a bigger and /or spider in there.......

Mwuahahahahaa...

Dude, you need a life..

I mean get a web cam! 😀 I'll place a bet of $20 on ol' Blacky...

Luden.

 
I really doubt that this picture is from a spider bite. Really doubt it. I have been stung by a scorpion, which is much more poisonous than a spider, and it was nowhere close to that thing....I call BS on this one.....
 
Originally posted by: Jmman
I really doubt that this picture is from a spider bite. Really doubt it. I have been stung by a scorpion, which is much more poisonous than a spider, and it was nowhere close to that thing....I call BS on this one.....
Believe it.

Just google "recluse spider bite". They're necrotizing.

Google that while you're at it. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Luden
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Swag1138
Originally posted by: Eli
I have a spider here in a little bottle, we thought it was a black widow at first, but it's not.. looks pretty much just like one, minus the hourglass figure on its underside.

Anyway, I've been feeding it all the other spiders I come across lately. :evil:


Oh bitter irony :evil: :beer:
😀

There are 3 in its cage now.. All wrapped up. It's fun to watch them fight. 😉

This is actually the 2nd spider I've kept like this. See, I find a spider.. and keep it. Then I put every other spider I find into the jar. Whichever one wins, "gets" to live there. 😉

Until I put a bigger and /or smarter spider in there.......

Mwuahahahahaa...

Dude, you need a life..

I mean get a web cam! 😀 I'll place a bet of $20 on ol' Blacky...

Luden.
See, that's the thing.. I have a life. 😛

Hmm.. 20$ you say? I have a webcam. 😀
 
Originally posted by: Walleye
Originally posted by: Swag1138
Originally posted by: Eli
I have a spider here in a little bottle, we thought it was a black widow at first, but it's not.. looks pretty much just like one, minus the hourglass figure on its underside.

Anyway, I've been feeding it all the other spiders I come across lately. :evil:


Oh bitter irony :evil: :beer:

a male black widow, perhaps?

they are slightly smaller than the females, and dont have the hourglass...
Nope, not a male Black Widow. It looks like a female black widow.. with the huge round ass and everything, except it has no hourglass figure.. 😕

We don't really have black widows here in Northern Oregon, that's why I was like "whoa" when I saw it, and caught it...
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: neutralizer
holy crap.... that's creepy... where do brown recluses roam?

The answer is in your pants :Q

Actually they don't like a lot of noise, light, or attention. They're more inclined to hide in the shed in your backyard that you haven't been in for 10 months than they are in the back of your closet or under your couch.

Psst, it was a joke 😉


BTW, my money is on necrotizing fasciitis. The Snopes article seems very reasonable.

If it was necrotizing fasciitis, would they not have amputated the thumb once it appeared the anti-biotics weren't working?

Your assumption is that would have been the diagnosis, and remember, we do not know how old that pic is. If it were just a few years ago, it could have been diagnosed differenly, and in anycase, I believe the recommended treatment is more aggressive now than then. My speculation.
 
Well, looking at some other pictures, I guess that is possible. Oh well, you poor bastages in the South and Midwest better be careful. I live in Colorado , and we don't have Brown Recluse spiders here anyway. We do have Black Wiidows though. I found one in my house awhile back....🙂
 
One possible (and likely) reason no "source" is cited for the photographs is that a hospital employee may have 'leaked' them without the doctor or hospital's consent or knowledge, thus cannot give any information about the origin of the photos. This is how a lot of medical or crime scene type photos find their way to the internet. I don't necessarily object, so long as no identification of the patient/victim is possible from the photos and the essential facts are accurate.

They are most certainly photos from a hospital, taken at the direction of a physician. I've taken a bunch of photos like this, having been deemed the resident on-shift 'electronics nut' in the surgical departments at which I've worked.

Contrary to Snope's attempt to down play the risk from Brown Recluse bites, they often result in dime-to-quarter sized tissue necrosis and cellulitis. Not as bad as this poor guy's thumb, but still nasty stuff. The medical expert Snopes cites betrays his own attempt to play down the risk of Brown Recluse bites:
"Almost all brown recluse spider bites heal nicely in two to three months without medical treatment at all."
In two to three months?? 😕
 
i was talking to this er doc one time and he told me about some guy who was brought in with no testicles due to a recluse spider biting his genitals in one of those outhouse bathrooms in the woods
 
Originally posted by: Ocuflox
i was talking to this er doc one time and he told me about some guy who was brought in with no testicles due to a recluse spider biting his genitals in one of those outhouse bathrooms in the woods

I should have stoped reading on page 1.

 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: neutralizer
holy crap.... that's creepy... where do brown recluses roam?

The answer is in your pants :Q

Actually they don't like a lot of noise, light, or attention. They're more inclined to hide in the shed in your backyard that you haven't been in for 10 months than they are in the back of your closet or under your couch.

Psst, it was a joke 😉


BTW, my money is on necrotizing fasciitis. The Snopes article seems very reasonable.

If it was necrotizing fasciitis, would they not have amputated the thumb once it appeared the anti-biotics weren't working?

Your assumption is that would have been the diagnosis, and remember, we do not know how old that pic is. If it were just a few years ago, it could have been diagnosed differenly, and in anycase, I believe the recommended treatment is more aggressive now than then. My speculation.

Just speculation on my part as well. I read a few links about necrotizing fasciitis and it seems that is could go either way. Regardless, I can't stand spiders and I certainly don't want necrotizing fasciitis! 😉
 
Originally posted by: Ocuflox
i was talking to this er doc one time and he told me about some guy who was brought in with no testicles due to a recluse spider biting his genitals in one of those outhouse bathrooms in the woods

wtf - people still actually USE those outhouses!? :Q

😉 😛
 
Originally posted by: tcsenter
One possible (and likely) reason no "source" is cited for the photographs is that a hospital employee may have 'leaked' them without the doctor or hospital's consent or knowledge, thus cannot give any information about the origin of the photos. This is how a lot of medical or crime scene type photos find their way to the internet. I don't necessarily object, so long as no identification of the patient/victim is possible from the photos and the essential facts are accurate.

They are most certainly photos from a hospital, taken at the direction of a physician. I've taken a bunch of photos like this, having been deemed the resident on-shift 'electronics nut' in the surgical departments at which I've worked.

Contrary to Snope's attempt to down play the risk from Brown Recluse bites, they often result in dime-to-quarter sized tissue necrosis and cellulitis. Not as bad as this poor guy's thumb, but still nasty stuff. The medical expert Snopes cites betrays his own attempt to play down the risk of Brown Recluse bites:
"Almost all brown recluse spider bites heal nicely in two to three months without medical treatment at all."
In two to three months?? 😕

...with no medical treatment at all.


That is not to say that they are completely harmless, but that surgical intervention (as would be indicated for our poor unfortunate) is unlikely. I would also think it HIGHLY unlikely that a given recluse bite would cause such an serious result as we see here. Impossible? Well, impossible you won't get me to say, since people have been killed by strawberries. I don't believe it though.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Luden
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Swag1138
Originally posted by: Eli
I have a spider here in a little bottle, we thought it was a black widow at first, but it's not.. looks pretty much just like one, minus the hourglass figure on its underside.

Anyway, I've been feeding it all the other spiders I come across lately. :evil:


Oh bitter irony :evil: :beer:
😀

There are 3 in its cage now.. All wrapped up. It's fun to watch them fight. 😉

This is actually the 2nd spider I've kept like this. See, I find a spider.. and keep it. Then I put every other spider I find into the jar. Whichever one wins, "gets" to live there. 😉

Until I put a bigger and /or smarter spider in there.......

Mwuahahahahaa...

Dude, you need a life..

I mean get a web cam! 😀 I'll place a bet of $20 on ol' Blacky...

Luden.
See, that's the thing.. I have a life. 😛

Hmm.. 20$ you say? I have a webcam. 😀

POST IT!!!..make a different thread and show it to us all'! aha



but man that pic is brutal....but don't they blame everything on that spider?..i hear the bites are rare?......and any "bite" that looks like crap is classified as being a recluse spider bite
 
...with no medical treatment at all.
The Brown Recluse bite specialist stated ""Almost all brown recluse spider bites heal nicely in two to three months without medical treatment at all." Clearly, if we are talking about a wound which is relatively minor in nature, we would be talking about healing in terms of two to three weeks, not two to three months.

The reasonable inference here is that the 'rest' of those bites which don't fall into the "almost all" category result in more extensive injuries requiring longer healing times and medical intervention. That still leaves the "almost all" category, those that will result in a localized necrosis injury significant enough that it will require two to three months to heal.

Also notice his use of the phrase "heal nicely". I've heard this said a hundred times by physicians, and it usually is said with a certain connotation; like 'in spite of the injury's rather shocking appearance, don't worry, it will heal nicely.'

If you're envenomated by a Brown Recluse, you should expect to suffer a localized necrotic and cellulitic injury that will range in size (skin area) from a dime to a quarter. Although it looks nasty, don't worry, it will 'heal nicely'...in two or three months.
That is not to say that they are completely harmless, but that surgical intervention (as would be indicated for our poor unfortunate) is unlikely. I would also think it HIGHLY unlikely that a given recluse bite would cause such an serious result as we see here.
This man's injury, if truly resulting from a Brown Recluse bite, appears to be among that percentage which fall outside of the "almost all" category. 😉
 
If you get bit by a spider, rub the bite with salt using a damp, hot rag...

I was bitten by black widow on one ocassion when I was a kid and I did that, as directed by a doctor on our street, and the wound was fine after a day or two.

On another occasion, I got bit on ny chest by a spider (I suppose) in my sleep...the wound puffed up quite a bit after a couple days and I had forgotten about the salt thing...A paramedic that I knew told about the salt treatment and I did it...wound was gone in two days.


BTW -- I would bet money that picture is in some way BS...looks like a photochop to me.
 
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