Broadwell-M specification

[mikk]

http://www.cpu-world.com//news_2014/2014070201_Details_of_first_Broadwell_Y_mobile_processors.html

 

[witeken]

Looks great. Also: "The 5Y10 supports a configurable TDP feature, which allows it to run at lower 4 Watt TDP." I wonder if there's any other difference between the 5Y10 and 5Y10a. Also a bit unusual names.

These processors should be a lot faster than any ARM SoC.

 

[NTMBK]

These processors should be a lot faster than any ARM SoC.

And a hell of a lot more expensive!

Really looking forward to seeing fanless tablets with these in. My Haswell-Y tablet is really nice, but the fan vent is annoying- you have to be careful how you hold it.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Price will be intresting to see. Its kinda hard to judge them before we know that. Technical specs tho looks impressive assuming turbo can be reached.

 

[witeken]

And a hell of a lot more expensive!

Unfortunately yes. Intel confirmed them to start at $600.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Unfortunately yes. Intel confirmed them to start at $600.

Got a link to that?

 

[witeken]

Got a link to that?

"[...] according to Intel’s PC client chief Kirk Skaugen, the new Intel Core M family allows tablet manufacturers to bring down their prices to as low as $599."

http://tabtec.com/windows/intel-core-m-super-thin-tablets-to-have-a-starting-price-of-599/

 

[CHADBOGA]

"[...] according to Intel’s PC client chief Kirk Skaugen, the new Intel Core M family allows tablet manufacturers to bring down their prices to as low as $599."

http://tabtec.com/windows/intel-core-m-super-thin-tablets-to-have-a-starting-price-of-599/

That $599 refers to the price of the tablet, not the processor. :whiste:

 

[ShintaiDK]

"[...] according to Intel’s PC client chief Kirk Skaugen, the new Intel Core M family allows tablet manufacturers to bring down their prices to as low as $599."

http://tabtec.com/windows/intel-core-m-super-thin-tablets-to-have-a-starting-price-of-599/

Well that doesnt say much about the CPU cost as such. The Surface Pro 2/3 is 799$ for example.

 

[witeken]

Well that doesnt say much about the CPU cost as such. The Surface Pro 2/3 is 799$ for example.

Starting at $600 means Core M's price isn't low enough for something like an iPad Air or an Android tablet.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Starting at $600 means Core M's price isn't low enough for something like an iPad Air or an Android tablet.

Well you cant conclude that before we see the actual OEM prices.

Intel may simply demand a minimum higher spec for Core M based tablets than Atom based.

 

[liahos1]

Starting at $600 means Core M's price isn't low enough for something like an iPad Air or an Android tablet.

assuming these prices the high end of the tablet market should be intel's to take. i mean an ipad starts at 500 with 16gb so this should comp nicely.

i wish we had more information about cherry trail.

 

[Techhog]

I'd love a $600 Surface Pro 4.

 

[liahos1]

how much of a gap in performance do you all think there will be on the Core M vs I3?

 

[frozentundra123456]

assuming these prices the high end of the tablet market should be intel's to take. i mean an ipad starts at 500 with 16gb so this should comp nicely.

i wish we had more information about cherry trail.

I think the decision comes down to what OS the user wants, rather than simply the hardware. Personally, I would take windows hands down without a second thought. However, I think a lot of people don't feel that way and might prefer android or IoS for the apps and "games" that are available. This is an unfortunate consequence of Intel being late to the tablet/phone party, and allowing android/IoS to become firmly entrenched.

It also doesn't help that win 8 still basically sucks from a usability standpoint IMO.

 

[Techhog]

It also doesn't help that win 8 still basically sucks from a usability standpoint IMO.

It's identical to Windows 7 for desktop use other than the start menu. I haven't tried it on a tablet though. If Metro is somehow bad even on tablets, that's just sad...

 

[Arachnotronic]

Cool.

 

[AtenRa]

I would really like to see the performance and price between those Broadwell-M and CherryTrail. Im estimating that 14nm ATOM will have more than 80% of the Broadwell-M performance at 1/3 or less the price at the same TDP.

 

[dahorns]

It's identical to Windows 7 for desktop use other than the start menu. I haven't tried it on a tablet though. If Metro is somehow bad even on tablets, that's just sad...

I use it on the Venue 8 Pro. Overall I'm quite happy with it as a touch interface. Metro is still horrible as a desktop interface.

 

[Techhog]

I use it on the Venue 8 Pro. Overall I'm quite happy with it as a touch interface. Metro is still horrible as a desktop interface.

It is. Luckily, there's no need to ever use it.

 

[witeken]

The title is wrong. It's Broadwell-Y or Core M.

 

[liahos1]

I would really like to see the performance and price between those Broadwell-M and CherryTrail. Im estimating that 14nm ATOM will have more than 80% of the Broadwell-M performance at 1/3 or less the price at the same TDP.

how are you getting those estimates?

 

[liahos1]

I think the decision comes down to what OS the user wants, rather than simply the hardware. Personally, I would take windows hands down without a second thought. However, I think a lot of people don't feel that way and might prefer android or IoS for the apps and "games" that are available. This is an unfortunate consequence of Intel being late to the tablet/phone party, and allowing android/IoS to become firmly entrenched.

It also doesn't help that win 8 still basically sucks from a usability standpoint IMO.

theoretically couldnt this be used in an android or dual os device? And its probably fast enough to emulate through bluestacks no?

 

[Fjodor2001]

So it maxes out at 1.1 GHz. Is it really likely that there will be a fanless Mac Book Air based on the Broadwell-M like some have speculated? Sounds to me like the performance will be too low for that.

 

[witeken]

theoretically couldnt this be used in an android or dual os device? And its probably fast enough to emulate through bluestacks no?

Intel announced this dual OS possibility at CES.

So it maxes out at 1.1 GHz. Is it really likely that there will be a fanless Mac Book Air based on the Broadwell-M like some have speculated? Sounds to me like the performance will be too low for that.

It maxes out at 2.6GHz.

What this means is that it maxes out its TDP and is able to go even further for a short amount of time (turbo). Its performance thus depends on its performance/watt, which is no doubt stellar thanks to 14nm with 2nd generation Trigate.

Also, when the tablet is docked, the TDP is increased by 4W.