Brit Hume Calls Upon Tiger Woods To Convert To Christianity. Really.

[jonks]

You guys are looking to far into this. That was from a commentary segment. He's giving personal opinion. WHOOOOOPDIE DOOOOOO.

He's a journalist/commentator, not a clergyman. And frankly I doubt most clergymen would say something that insulting in public about other religions. This is not an opinion that should be shared during a roundtable discussion on a "news" network, which I suppose is why it fits right in at fox.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/m...t-f--king-news-team-ever---tiger-woods--faith

 

[palehorse]

Free speech and freedom of religion are great; but, only if you agree with said speech, or believe in said religion yourself.

amiright?

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Wait, wait, wait...a talking head on a news channel states his opinion, and the left erupts in faux outrage. Where is said "outrage" when Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews spew their nonsense?

Oh, right, right, right. As long as said talking head is a leftist kook, it is A-OK to say whatever you want.

🙄

 

[Red Dawn]

Wait, wait, wait...a talking head on a news channel states his opinion, and the left erupts in faux outrage. Where is said "outrage" when Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews spew their nonsense?

Oh, right, right, right. As long as said talking head is a leftist kook, it is A-OK to say whatever you want.

🙄

Actually I'm a bit surprised that Hume would do this.He is after all suppose to be one of the real journalists that Fox employs. Frankly I think it's great..for laughs.


BTW I think Olbermann is an ass.Sure at times he makes biting and funny commentary but like some of the idiots on Fox he takes himself too seriously and he really fucks up NBC's NFL Post Game broadcasts.

 

[jonks]

Free speech is great; but, only if you agree with said speech.

amiright?

did the government censor him or fine him? did anyone say it should? no? looks like free speech not implicated.

amirite?

this shit gets trotted out by people all the time. he gets to say something stupid, we get to tell him he's saying something stupid. that IS free speech and I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[palehorse]

did the government censor him or fine him? did anyone say it should? no? looks like free speech not implicated.

amirite?

this shit gets trotted out by people all the time. he gets to say something stupid, we get to tell him he's saying something stupid. that IS free speech and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Your last post seemed to me to imply that he should not be ALLOWED to say such things during a televised roundtable discussion... if I was wrong, sorry. :beer:

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Actually I'm a bit surprised that Hume would do this.He is after all suppose to be one of the real journalists that Fox employs. Frankly I think it's great..for laughs.


BTW I think Olbermann is an ass.Sure at times he makes biting and funny commentary but like some of the idiots on Fox he takes himself too seriously and he really f***s up NBC's NFL Post Game broadcasts.

Cheers man. It's all good.

I don't find Olbermann too horrible when he's doing NBC's Football Night in America. He sticks to the football and does make some witty comments. But still...it's Keith Olbermann. That part alone makes it tough to watch sometimes.

 

[Patranus]

Or if you're blatantly ignorant of what most people, christians included, would consider offensive.

And that is where you are wrong.
Only the ultra liberal "progressive" finds anything related to religion "offensive".
Most people just ignore it and move along.

 

[jonks]

Your last post seemed to me to imply that he should not be ALLOWED to say such things during a televised roundtable discussion... if I was wrong, sorry. :beer:

ah, np, I'm close to a free speech absolutist. I was suggesting personal discretion, not outside enforcement.

 

[palehorse]

ah, np, I'm close to a free speech absolutist. I was suggesting personal discretion, not outside enforcement.

cool cool... I got ya.

Thing is, I see nothing wrong with Hume's statement. Every Christmas, my Grandmother makes one or two similar comments to me -- basically telling me that I should "find Jesus."

Now, I know she's my grandmother, so it doesnt really translate to this situation perfectly, but I still don't get offended when Hume says the same. After all, in his own mind, his intentions are probably honest and kind. He, like my grandmother, probably thinks that Tiger would benefit from converting to Christianity.

Did he harp on it for ten minutes? No, he didn't. He simply said what is on the minds of most religious folks when they see someone else struggling or in trouble. They think that, because their religion may have helped them through something, the same could be done for whomever it is they see in trouble.

I simply don't think that there is anything malicious, immoral, ignorant, or selfish here...

 

[Red Dawn]

cool cool... I got ya.

Thing is, I see nothing wrong with Hume's statement. Every Christmas, my Grandmother makes one or two similar comments to me -- basically telling me that I should "find Jesus."

Now, I know she's my grandmother, so it doesnt really translate to this situation perfectly, but I still don't get offended when Hume says the same. After all, in his own mind, his intentions are probably honest and kind. He, like my grandmother, probably thinks that Tiger would benefit from converting to Christianity.

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Hold on their Cowboy, do you actually believe that Hume thought what he was saying was for the benefit of Woods? He's not stupid, he knows the likelihood of Woods watching his commentary is almost nil as Woods isn't part of the demographic that tunes into Fox. What Humes did was playing up to Fox's fan base, nothing more. I sincerely doubt he actually even believes what he said,even though he is a puppet he isn't stupid.

 

[palehorse]

Hold on their Cowboy, do you actually believe that Hume thought what he was saying was for the benefit of Woods? He's not stupid, he knows the likelihood of Woods watching his commentary is almost nil as Woods isn't part of the demographic that tunes into Fox. What Humes did was playing up to Fox's fan base, nothing more. I sincerely doubt he actually even believes what he said,even though he is a puppet he isn't stupid.

I think you're probably wrong. Hume has never struck me as completely insincere, and a statement like the one he made is quite common amongst Christians who see someone else in trouble... it's almost second-nature for them to think and say as much out loud.

I also think you are overreacting.

 

[Red Dawn]

I think you're probably wrong. Hume has never struck me as completely insincere, and a statement like the one he made is quite common amongst Christians who see someone else in trouble... it's almost second-nature for them to think and say as much out loud.

I also think you are overreacting.

I don't know if I'm over reacting, I'm just extremely skeptical, you know this being Fox News. Not a lot of sincerity emitting from those broadcast waves. You can't actually believe Hume thinks this will reach Woods do you?

 

[palehorse]

I don't know if I'm over reacting, I'm just extremely skeptical, you know this being Fox News. Not a lot of sincerity emitting from those broadcast waves. You can't actually believe Hume thinks this will reach Woods do you?

It may not reach Woods' ears, but I don't think that was a factor to begin with. I think it was honest commentary from someone who actually believes Christianity would help Tiger get through his troubles -- nothing more.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I don't know if I'm over reacting, I'm just extremely skeptical, you know this being Fox News. Not a lot of sincerity emitting from those broadcast waves. You can't actually believe Hume thinks this will reach Woods do you?

He was probably just using Woods as an example of someone he thinks would benefit from understanding the christian faith, and what it means to follow it. I watch fox, cnn, msnbc, and I've never took hume as being much of a preacher type. He's usually pretty level and politically correct in his delivery.

 

[Red Dawn]

It may not reach Woods' ears, but I don't think that was a factor to begin with. I think it was honest commentary from someone who actually believes Christianity would help Tiger get through his troubles -- nothing more.

Well him following Buddhism more closely would be as much help. Better yet just get a divorce and enjoy life. Now that's some good advice:twisted:

 

[palehorse]

Well him following Buddhism more closely would be as much help. Better yet just get a divorce and enjoy life. Now that's some good advice:twisted:

I agree! lol

 

[ayabe]

Something tells me that if Hume had been pimping Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, or the Wiccan religion, the outrage would be far more dire.

So let's keep things in perspective.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Meh. As I said in another post, Tiger would hire legions of "image consultants" to revive his tarnished name and I predicted he would come out and be "born again" or whatever the proper term is these days. I won't be surprised if that really happens.

 

[jonks]

cool cool... I got ya.

Thing is, I see nothing wrong with Hume's statement. Every Christmas, my Grandmother makes one or two similar comments to me -- basically telling me that I should "find Jesus."

Now, I know she's my grandmother, so it doesnt really translate to this situation perfectly, but I still don't get offended when Hume says the same. After all, in his own mind, his intentions are probably honest and kind. He, like my grandmother, probably thinks that Tiger would benefit from converting to Christianity.

Did he harp on it for ten minutes? No, he didn't. He simply said what is on the minds of most religious folks when they see someone else struggling or in trouble. They think that, because their religion may have helped them through something, the same could be done for whomever it is they see in trouble.

I simply don't think that there is anything malicious, immoral, ignorant, or selfish here...

I wouldn't characterize it as malicious or evil, just inappropriate and insulting. If Tiger was Jewish I think you'd have heard even more noise in the backlash, but Buddhists aren't given to much public outrage over here. Richard Gere suggested days after 9/11 that we not let our emotions overpower our reason and he was booed offstage. Maybe a noble message, but wrong time and place.

Anyway, the problem as I perceive it is that his endorsement is setting up competition, i.e. my religion is better than your religion. This might work fine on Fox where the overwhelming majority of viewers are white christians who probably nodded at the suggestion. But let's not equivocate, when you try to sell someone on your religion or suggest to them that they convert to your religion, that's the textbook definition of prosthelytizing. When he then goes on O'Reilly and says "I wasn't prosthelytizing", well, that's disingenuous facepalm smacking doubletalk.

Hume has almost become born again after his son offed himself so I don't doubt that he probably was sincere.

 

[Jaskalas]

Something tells me that if Hume had been pimping Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, or the Wiccan religion, the outrage would be far more dire.

So let's keep things in perspective.

Only Islam is singled out there.

 

[Zebo]

Proselytizing is part and parcel of all religions, duh. What's so funny/new about this?

 

[Fern]

dp

 

[Fern]

Is Brit Humes supposed to be a newscaster or a commentator? I always thought he was supposed to be a newscaster, but even on Fox it seems extreme that a newscaster would sink to such an unprofessional low.

Brit Hume hasn't been a journalist for a year IIRC. He retired and Brent Baer (sp?) took his place.

And he was clearly giving an opinion when he made these remarks, he was participating in a panel discussion which is always recognized as 'opinion' and not 'news'.

Actually I'm a bit surprised that Hume would do this.He is after all suppose to be one of the real journalists that Fox employs. Frankly I think it's great..for laughs.
-snip-

I'm pretty sure he's no longer a journalist. He only appears on camera now to give commentary, he retired as journalist about a year ago and was bumped up to a management position.

Fern

 

[jonks]

Proselytizing is part and parcel of all religions, duh. What's so funny/new about this?

I'm unaware of any journalist (or even commentator) on a news network or program proselytizing his religion, particularly in a manner by which he draws a comparison to another religion and proclaims the other inferior or lacking. Well maybe except for Islam, which fox thinks is practiced by 1.4 billion extremists.