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Brian Krzanich resigns as intel ceo

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Markfw said:
Well, its not un-expected IMO. First there is Ryzen, then Meltdown/spectre, then 10 nm failure, then the "show" at CES with 28 cores@5 ghz.

They have already tried the dog and pony show, whats next ? I wish they would just work at getting a new/inovative affordable product out, instead of all the BS.
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That's were Keller comes in, at least on the server side. Don't know how affordable it will be, seeing as this is Intel, I'd suspect they are going for "competitive" pricing with better performance.
 
ondma said:
However, what is not off topic is that a sexual relationship between an employee and his subordinate is forbidden *whether consensual on not* is forbidden.
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Sure, but one is against company policy and the other is a crime, possibly a felony depending on details. So again, trying to draw a parallel between the two is weird, there is no parallel.
 
Ajay said:
That's were Keller comes in, at least on the server side. Don't know how affordable it will be, seeing as this is Intel, I'd suspect they are going for "competitive" pricing with better performance.
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With Keller... do they have 4 years to wait?
 
Ajay said:
That's were Keller comes in, at least on the server side. Don't know how affordable it will be, seeing as this is Intel, I'd suspect they are going for "competitive" pricing with better performance.
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But right now EPYC is competitive, and even beats Intel in many benchmarks, and thats before Meltdown/spectre patches, and servers are where it hits the hardest. Not to mention, they are like 1/2 the price of the Intel competitor.

So forget better performance, and even at 1/2 price, they are now just even in pricing. Intel has a real problem with EPYC, and that before the 7nm version now in the hands of some manufacturers like HP, DELL and the like.
 
jpiniero said:
Ryzen, even now, isn't that big of a deal to Intel. It's Epyc that's the problem.
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I don't think that Epyc is going to be a real problem for Intel for the next year or so. Corporate IT purchasers are a fairly conservative bunch, and they'll be "validating" AMD's server processors for awhile before they allow them to be used for production workloads.

I still haven't seen any announcements from any of the major US cloud providers about a switch to AMD processors as well. I'm sure that at least one of them will offer a AMD server line soon.
 
Hitman928 said:
Sure, but one is against company policy and the other is a crime, possibly a felony depending on details. So again, trying to draw a parallel between the two is weird, there is no parallel.
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I never said consensual sex is the same as sexual assault. The point I am trying to make is that the fact that it was consensual by no means prevents it from being a very serious violation of company policy. I have worked for several companies, all of which required workplace conduct training, and one of the most strongly stressed rules for every one of them was that people in positions of authority are not allowed to have an intimate relationship with those they have influence over. Now if BK had won a big phone contract and magically saved 10 nm, would the whole thing have been covered up? Probably. But those who are saying or implying that it is nothing significant because it was consensual are just wrong.
 
ultimatebob said:
I don't think that Epyc is going to be a real problem for Intel for the next year or so. Corporate IT purchasers are a fairly conservative bunch, and they'll be "validating" AMD's server processors for awhile before they allow them to be used for production workloads.

I still haven't seen any announcements from any of the major US cloud providers about a switch to AMD processors as well. I'm sure that at least one of them will offer a AMD server line soon.
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You must not be looking then...

AMD has a big smile on its face today. Microsoft just announced that it will use AMD's Epyc server processors for its Azure cloud service, and that is big news alright.
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/m...-processors-for-its-azure-cloud-platform.html

and also...

AMD Wins Another Cloud Provider With Baidu ABC Services
https://www.forbes.com/sites/moorin...rovider-with-baidu-abc-services/#6d8bc7d05e1a
 
Jimzz said:
You must not be looking then...

AMD has a big smile on its face today. Microsoft just announced that it will use AMD's Epyc server processors for its Azure cloud service, and that is big news alright.
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/m...-processors-for-its-azure-cloud-platform.html

and also...

AMD Wins Another Cloud Provider With Baidu ABC Services
https://www.forbes.com/sites/moorin...rovider-with-baidu-abc-services/#6d8bc7d05e1a
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A press release isn't a product, unfortunately. It looks like that Guru3D article is from December 2017, and those instances still aren't available.

That one leaves me scratching my head... why is it taking over six months for these to become available?
 
ondma said:
I never said consensual sex is the same as sexual assault. The point I am trying to make is that the fact that it was consensual by no means prevents it from being a very serious violation of company policy. I have worked for several companies, all of which required workplace conduct training, and one of the most strongly stressed rules for every one of them was that people in positions of authority are not allowed to have an intimate relationship with those they have influence over. Now if BK had won a big phone contract and magically saved 10 nm, would the whole thing have been covered up? Probably. But those who are saying or implying that it is nothing significant because it was consensual are just wrong.
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Look by the time you are Intel's size the rule book is much like the saying "you have broken about a dozen laws on your way to work". Hell in small company like mine most have broken at least 3 guidelines before lunch. Probably a dozen or so for a company like Intel. Even if Intel is big on enforcing rules, or this rule rule in particular, a consensual, non-coerced relationship that didn't lead to a lawsuit, by the guy who has made Intel more than any other CEO has yet, would have been swept under the rug rather than pay him his leaving fee and losing face to all the other shareholders. Again a company Intel's size is going to have dozens of cases like this rolling around and they aren't firing them all. This isn't going to be a one size fits all punishment. Not when no actual abuse is found.
 
More importantly Keller is a process fixer guy. He isn't going to come in and design a whole new CPU like we imagine sometimes. But he is good at fitting the right people for the right job and getting people to recognize when they are thinking the wrong way. At AMD and Apple he also had the advantage of his opinion pulling a lot of weight. I don't know if that will apply in an organization like Intel so we will have to wait and see. Even if he isn't the "Guy" who designs Intel's next major arch, if they listen and work with him well, by the time he leaves and goes to someone else's CPU project, Keller will have straightened out a lot of what has been ailing Intel for a long time.
 
Keller is the guy who gave AMD the SCF part of the IF, the actual addition to HyperTransport, the part with the officially "over 1300 sensors" per Zeppelin die that allows monitoring of all kinds of silicon characteristics. He was recruited by Intel to help them with SoC designs, and he'll likely bring his knowledge of SCF there since aside helping with run time characteristics all the sensors also speed up design development by helping with debugging and binning (something Intel could use with their 10nm efforts).
 
Plot twist:

Seeking a new kind of challenge, Jim Keller takes on the role of CEO at intel.

That would be a strange alternative reality.
 
moinmoin said:
Keller is the guy who gave AMD the SCF part of the IF
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Keller helped to get the Zen team together and going. IF is a tweak of Hyper-transport 3. Zen is Papermaster's and Clark's design. Keller is a genius, but not the main man behind Zen's success nor IF. AMD still has the main people and team behind Zens success, who also did Zen2 and doing Zen3.
 
Thought about it and now think that Swan might be Interim CEO for awhile.. at least until they finally admit how broken 10 nm is and whether they think they can actually fix it.
 
Ashraf Eassa:

I have very good reason to believe that BK was canned for his performance (especially 10nm flop) and that the affair was just an easy excuse that would reassure shareholders that the strategy/execution is fine.
 
Can we speculate possible CEOs?

- CEO#1 Ph.D in physics
- CEO#2 Ph.D in chemistry and physics
- CEO#3 Ph.D. in chemical engineering
- CEO#4 Ph.D. in materials science
- CEO#5 Master of Business Administration
- CEO#6 Bachelor's degree in chemistry.

If it is internal with process in mind (top-to-bottom);
-> Dr. Michael C. Mayberry w/ Ph.D. in physical chemistry
-> Sohail U. Ahmed w/ master’s degree in chemical engineering
-> Joshua M. Walden w/ bachelor’s degree in chemical engineering
//Pretty sure there is more, but it is a hassle to find degrees and how long they've been at Intel.

I think, it will need to be someone with a chemical degree at best if it is process orientated. If they hire someone electrical it might point to a spinning-off of the Fabs.

Intel Capital Global Summit, speakers includes:
-> Brian Krzanich, Intel CEO
-> Michael Mayberry, Intel CTO and Intel Labs managing director.

So, he is up in the topology getting slotted with CEO.

However, if Intel leadership internally is not good. A young-ish outsider is more likely to cleanse the olde ways.
 
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