Brian & Anand Hate SD Card's in Phones

[BoberFett]

I don't care. I am lucky enough to have free unlimited LTE and able to adapt to using only 8 or 16gig internal storage. As a frequent traveler I just don't see the big deal as long as one is semi organized. I also do fine on a 2 week long vacation in Germany and France with only 1 gig of data. That includes relying on Google Nav for directions. I got enough shows and music to keep me entertained on an 8gig phine and 16 gig tablet. The difference is I took the time to manage my files while some has to keep 500 albums on their SD card for unknown reason.

I never have and never will pay extra for internal storage. I also refuse to buy mSD cards now because the good ones are too pricy and cheap ones are unreliable. My files are too precious to rely on cheap mSD and I learned it the hard way.

My point is that as long as millions are satisfied with slow and unreliable mSD slot, then don't complain if manufacturers continue to include minimal internal storage. It is only common business sense. I understand the reason for mSD card, and I wouldn't complain if my phone has one because my Razr M has the slot. However, I think its silly to bitch and moan about it because NO ONE here has made a decent argument for it IMO.

You're beyond hope.

 

[ControlD]

I don't care. I am lucky enough to have free unlimited LTE and able to adapt to using only 8 or 16gig internal storage. As a frequent traveler I just don't see the big deal as long as one is semi organized. I also do fine on a 2 week long vacation in Germany and France with only 1 gig of data. That includes relying on Google Nav for directions. I got enough shows and music to keep me entertained on an 8gig phine and 16 gig tablet. The difference is I took the time to manage my files while some has to keep 500 albums on their SD card for unknown reason.

I never have and never will pay extra for internal storage. I also refuse to buy mSD cards now because the good ones are too pricy and cheap ones are unreliable. My files are too precious to rely on cheap mSD and I learned it the hard way.

My point is that as long as millions are satisfied with slow and unreliable mSD slot, then don't complain if manufacturers continue to include minimal internal storage. It is only common business sense. I understand the reason for mSD card, and I wouldn't complain if my phone has one because my Razr M has the slot. However, I think its silly to bitch and moan about it because NO ONE here has made a decent argument for it IMO.

You are kind of making the argument for mSD in your post honestly. You have unlimited LTE so needing a lot of local storage isn't a huge concern. There are a ton of people like me that are on shared data plans with something like 2GB total per month. When I go on an extended trip I like to be able to load up my SD card with a bunch of movies and music. I don't have the luxury of relying on streaming over LTE, and phone manufacturers aren't in any hurry to start giving away large amounts of internal storage.

 

[openwheel]

You're beyond hope.

Its not my fault you want the World to have identical opinion as you. Keep in mind I am not the one bitching in this thread about some feature they have to have. Simply stating my opinion here.

 

[openwheel]

You are kind of making the argument for mSD in your post honestly. You have unlimited LTE so needing a lot of local storage isn't a huge concern. There are a ton of people like me that are on shared data plans with something like 2GB total per month. When I go on an extended trip I like to be able to load up my SD card with a bunch of movies and music. I don't have the luxury of relying on streaming over LTE, and phone manufacturers aren't in any hurry to start giving away large amounts of internal storage.

I also had Straight talk for about 8 months and it was perfectly fine. I just had to adjust and adapt. I also cited example of my trip to Europe with only 1 gig of data for 2 weeks. Thats a lot of air travel, driving and even a train ride. So no, even if I didn't have unlimited data in the US, I would still be fine.

I am all ears if anyone has a good justification that mSD is a must have, but I have yet to read a good one. The best one so far is having the choice, which I agree from a consumers point of view but I also believe it has back fired on consumers especially those who refuse to buy a phone without mSD slot. That iPhone is awefully nice, and !any of you know how I feel about Apple products.

 

[Brian Stirling]

I love how folks with unlimited data are all for cloud based storage and against onboard storage but then complain about the crappy service they get. I'm glad I don't have service with a carrier that offers unlimited data as the user experience will tend to be not so good.

When there is limited bandwidth and the users have unlimited data you have the recipe for bad service.


Brian

 

[blairharrington]

Openwheel I've added you to my ignore list. The first and hopefully last forum member I will choose to do so with. My issue isn't a difference of opinion but rather what I feel is you openly trolling members. If you aren't trolling you are just obnoxious.

 

[openwheel]

LOL be my guest, I didn't even reply to any of your post in this thread. I remember your avatar. I guess you are still pissed from our last discussion. You must've lost that argument.

 

[Cerb]

I am all ears if anyone has a good justification that mSD is a must have, but I have yet to read a good one.

Blinders. Try taking them off. How about the fact that it's all but impossible to get a phone with huge internal storage, and that cloud storage is not nearly as useful, reliable, nor as battery-friendly, as local. Also, that even among phones with large internal storage at any given time, those phones may have other issues that make them poorer choices (I was ready to get a new Samsung S3 or Note 3, until I started talking to people using them--the S2, S3, and all the Notes have pretty poor voice quality, IMO, and for me, that's a deal-breaker).

The best one so far is having the choice, which I agree from a consumers point of view but I also believe it has back fired on consumers especially those who refuse to buy a phone without mSD slot

How has that backfired? When I went to find myself a new phone, before I even got down to price and carrier options, almost all of the ones I was looking at had MicroSD. If you try to make it out like the best phones out there don't have MicroSD slots, you're not looking for a good phone, but a status symbol. If you look for a good phone, you'll find that it is currently quite easy to find them both with and without. Samsung, Pantech, and HTC, FI, have had models with and without, continue to do so, and keep on making excellent phones. Sony may make decent phones, but I try to avoid anything Sony, so don't know . Motorola makes good ones, too, but mostly without.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I also refuse to buy mSD cards now because the good ones are too pricy and cheap ones are unreliable.

I don't know what you mean by this. My very nice 64gb SD Card was like $55 bucks, so around half what Apple charges to go from 16 to 32gb. My nice 32GB ones were around $25 bucks. You have not shopped for SD cards in a while, Samsung really changed that market in the last year. And it is much easier to backup a SD card to my PC then a phone's internal storage.

I don't get your point of how it backfired on consumers either. Because that requirement means no iPhone? Sorry, I don't want one. A lot of my SD card space is devoted to mkv files that are hard to play in iOS, plus I prefer Google Services.

If you are trying to argue that Micro SDs have kept internal storage low, that makes no sense. Samsung upped the minimum to 32gb with the Note 3 AND it has a SD card slot. The HTC Max and Optimus G Pro has the same 32gb plus SD slot. Meanwhile the HTC One and G2 start at 32GB. Outside of the Nexus line Android is moving the standard up across the board, and Nexus is fringe.

The only major player not moving is the one that never had a SD Card slot- Apple. They are stuck at a 16GB base.

So how is a SD slot, or a demand for one, hurting consumers? Seems like Apple greediness is hurting consumers.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Oh and to your point "no one gave a good reason for one," well I just did. A 64GB upgrade for $55 bucks. And that is a top shelf card with better speeds than the internal memory on many phones. It gets me to 80gb total in my S4 or 96 GB total in a Note 3. I cannot buy an iPhone that big at any price.

So what are you trying to say- no one needs that much storage?

Heck I wish I had more today. 128GB in a phone would rock. I would take every recent movie I have on my phone on trips at that level.

 

[openwheel]

has mSD i/o speed caught up to internal storage?

 

[poofyhairguy]

has mSD i/o speed caught up to internal storage?

The phones with the fastest internal memory are faster than a Micro SD (so like a Note 3), but a good SD card is as fast as an average phone. I can dig up some old Crystalbench screenshots if you want.

Edit: And they are faster than some devices. My 25 dollar Micro SD smokes my Prime on the all important 4k write.

 

[Oyeve]

has mSD i/o speed caught up to internal storage?

Dude, just give it up, you lost, lick your wounds and go away.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Dude, just give it up, you lost, lick your wounds and go away.

Oh the sheer horrors of getting MP3s to work at only 10MB/s reads. *Shudders.*

 

[soccerballtux]

i bricked my phone by restoring a backup of a ROM. I don't know how I would copy other ROM and the flash it if I didn't have the SD card.

fastboot.

 

[waggy]

i keep my MP3's and photo's on my micro SD. I have never ran into a speed issue.

I love that i ahve a extra 16gb of storage for it.


The cost is so minor i don't get why you wouldn't want one. Now i understand why the phone makers don't want to.

for me a phone with them is something i look for. i just got my S4 though really wish i got the note 3

 

[Oyeve]

i keep my MP3's and photo's on my micro SD. I have never ran into a speed issue.

I love that i ahve a extra 16gb of storage for it.


The cost is so minor i don't get why you wouldn't want one. Now i understand why the phone makers don't want to.

for me a phone with them is something i look for. i just got my S4 though really wish i got the note 3

I had a hard time giving up my s4 to my son after getting the note 3. Kinda wish I kept both but he had an s3 and wanted a better camera so I gave him the s4 with a 64gb card and he's happy.

 

[openwheel]

Dude, just give it up, you lost, lick your wounds and go away.

What are you ? 12 years old?

 

[Joe1987]

PSA: Best Buy has 32 & 64 GB mSD cards on sale: SKU's 4120116 and 1300086

I think mSD, batteries and sim cards are a significant consumer benefit, and am glad we have the choice to purchase phones with these options.

 

[Oyeve]

What are you ? 12 years old?

No, 47, but your points are asinine and wrong. You just kept whining and whining and are annoying.

 

[Brian Stirling]

No, 47, but your points are asinine and wrong. You just kept whining and whining and are annoying.

That sad fact is that even though his posts are obvious trolling the big guys on this site that penned there screed against uSD is just about as obnoxious and even more damaging as they have way more influence.

Having a lot of local storage opens up many new opportunities and it's shocking that Brian and Anand don't seem to care about that...


Brian

 

[Zaap]

PSA: Best Buy has 32 & 64 GB mSD cards on sale: SKU's 4120116 and 1300086

Nice! Thanks! Just picked up a 64GB card for my niece. (I'm finding it hard to imagine a teen that would complain about having 64 extra gigs of storage to now keep her music, movies and photos on her phone- that seems to be a hangup only geeky adult males have!)

$34 for 64GB isn't too shabby.

 

[openwheel]

No, 47, but your points are asinine and wrong. You just kept whining and whining and are annoying.

I guess anyone is whining as long as they don't agree with you? Ironic because the only whining in this thread is the lack of mSD card. Welcome to the internet old man, where everyone has a different opinion.

 

[zerogear]

That sad fact is that even though his posts are obvious trolling the big guys on this site that penned there screed against uSD is just about as obnoxious and even more damaging as they have way more influence.

Having a lot of local storage opens up many new opportunities and it's shocking that Brian and Anand don't seem to care about that...


Brian

I personally don't care either, as long as I have a minimum of 32GB -- ideally 64GB+. However, I understand perfectly why someone would want a uSD. And at the end of the day, for Brian and Anand, that is their usage/opinion and what they are advocating. What I don't understand is how, them having a difference of opinion from you, would detract from your preference/device in any way?

 

[openwheel]

Exactly, as if this thread was intended to become a mSD b|$%&ing and moaning orgy- fest. Anyone who crashed the party must be a troll. Hilarious.