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Breonna Taylor - Charges Against Officers

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OILFIELDTRASH said:
What about a dead body in a rental car in her name? You don't think they were looking to get these people after they skated on a homicide?
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It sounds enough to raise an eyebrow and an indication to investigate further.

It doesn't sound like enough to justify a warrant.


In order to justify a warrant - I basically think you need to have 99.9% proof - with the remaining 0.1% being the warrant saying "Yeap, it's here."

If you don't know PRECISELY what you're looking for (and no - broad generalities like "I'm looking for drugs" isn't what I mean) then I don't believe a search warrant is justified.
 
MrSquished said:
Did Breonna Taylor assassinate John F Kennedy too?
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No. Just took part in a drug trafficking ring and was around people who offed a mofo in her rental car. Also said pieces of shit took a shot at police as they were serving a justified warrant. This shit is never pretty. I'm going to side with the police on this. You can stand or better yet kneel to these criminal pieces of shit you believe are martyrs.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
No. Just took part in a drug trafficking ring and was around people who offed a mofo in her rental car. Also said pieces of shit took a shot at police as they were serving a justified warrant. This shit is never pretty. I'm going to side with the police on this. You can stand or better yet kneel to these criminal pieces of shit you believe are martyrs.
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You do realize the guy that dealt some drugs was her ex boyfriend, as in the past. You do realize that they even offered that ex boyfriend a plea deal that was beneficial to him if he implicated Breonna Taylor in criminal activity, and he refused. You do realize that the actual current boyfriend in her apartment at the time of the break in by the cops had no criminal record and legally had a conceal carry permit for that weapon he fired. And Louisiana has castle doctrine, so he was well within his rights to fire a warning shot when the door was broken down. It's amazing you can call him and her criminal pieces of shit.

You are an ignorant fool spouting nonsense. And I wonder why.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
It sounds enough to raise an eyebrow and an indication to investigate further.

It doesn't sound like enough to justify a warrant.


In order to justify a warrant - I basically think you need to have 99.9% proof - with the remaining 0.1% being the warrant saying "Yeap, it's here."

If you don't know PRECISELY what you're looking for (and no - broad generalities like "I'm looking for drugs" isn't what I mean) then I don't believe a search warrant is justified.
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It was a justified warrant. They got info from surveillance and ran it by a judge. The judge signed off on it.

If you'd like to change the process you are more than welcome to try but at this point that is how a warrant is obtained.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
No. Just took part in a drug trafficking ring and was around people who offed a mofo in her rental car. Also said pieces of shit took a shot at police as they were serving a justified warrant. This shit is never pretty. I'm going to side with the police on this. You can stand or better yet kneel to these criminal pieces of shit you believe are martyrs.
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You clearly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Breonna and her boyfriend were not suspects. What you are doing is peddling bull shit.
 
ivwshane said:
You clearly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Breonna and her boyfriend were not suspects. What you are doing is peddling bull shit.
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So her holding drug money doesn't implicate her? You do realize it was one apartment of many that they were using?
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
So her holding drug money doesn't implicate her? You do realize it was one apartment of many that they were using?
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Where are the charges against her? Now she was also using multiple apartments used as home bases for drug dealing and storing loads of cash?

You are fucking bonkers. Right wing media has melted your brain. You are a civically useless human.
 
MrSquished said:
Where are the charges against her? Now she was also using multiple apartments used as home bases for drug dealing and storing loads of cash?

You are fucking bonkers. Right wing media has melted your brain. You are a civically useless human.
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Keep kneeling son. Maybe they'll bukake you if you ask nicely.
 
Fenixgoon said:
Do my eyes deceive me? will this be one of those rare topics where everyone in ATPN is in basic agreement? 😵
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Six posts in? Highly doubtful.

There are enough right-wing authoritarians who think it is perfectly justifiable for police to shoot ANYONE if they feel their lives are endangered.
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Keep kneeling son. Maybe they'll bukake you if you ask nicely.
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You're a terrible human being.

Keep cheering on that dead girl, terrible human being.
 
Some of the mistruths here are almost verbatim of what I've seen elsewhere. Y'all are puppets to a rich corporate master.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
No. Just took part in a drug trafficking ring and was around people who offed a mofo in her rental car. Also said pieces of shit took a shot at police as they were serving a justified warrant. This shit is never pretty. I'm going to side with the police on this. You can stand or better yet kneel to these criminal pieces of shit you believe are martyrs.
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Holy shit dude where did you get all that?
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Didn't really see a dedicated thread on this - yet this was a major recent decision that will inevitably spark this week's protests.

Attorney general ended up only charging one of the officers - and it wasn't for murder but more along the lines of recklessly shooting.

www.bbc.com

Breonna Taylor: Police officer charged but not over death

Brett Hankison fired 10 rounds into her apartment and is accused of endangering her neighbours.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com




Personally I think there's some problems on all fronts. Irrational frothing at the mouth lefties won't settle for anything other than 1st Degree murder charges for each officer.

Righties will probably say the officers are entirely innocent.

Reality is somewhere inbetween. If officers are being shot at - you can expect fire to be returned. Goodluck getting a murder charge. Are you expecting them to cower in fear and run away when shots were fired?




But what pisses me the fuck off about this whole thing is the part that NO ONE cares to discuss.... Who is ultimately liable for this? The answer is REALLY fucking simple. The person most liable for this is the judge that approved a warrant. Period. End of story. They are the cause of this. They are supposed to be the checks and balance. They weren't and they never are.

2nd person that is liable should be the officers, investigators, etc... whomever presented the (obvious false) evidence to the judge.

Those are the parties responsible for these events the most. But for some blissful reason we just ignore that and just directly point the finger at the officers that were tasked with performing the warrant. They conduct the warrant - and they get shot at. They respond with shots.



Doing things like raiding a home with guns drawn should require SUBSTANTIAL evidence to approve. I'm talking documented videos and photos of people hauling in bricks of cocaine/heroin or something to that scale. They make it sound like there was a meth lab going on - but the reality was obviously otherwise.
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Judge would not be responsible if fed false information on the warrant application. IIRC that is one thing which has been alleged here.

So far as "liability," they already paid $12 million to Taylor's family. So the matter is now moot.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
It sounds enough to raise an eyebrow and an indication to investigate further.

It doesn't sound like enough to justify a warrant.


In order to justify a warrant - I basically think you need to have 99.9% proof - with the remaining 0.1% being the warrant saying "Yeap, it's here."

If you don't know PRECISELY what you're looking for (and no - broad generalities like "I'm looking for drugs" isn't what I mean) then I don't believe a search warrant is justified.
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You "basically think?" I honestly have no idea where you got this. A warrant requires probable cause. The degree of certainty of a crime for PC is under 50%. It goes like this:

Reasonable suspicion - for stop and frisk, which is a pat down search.

Probable cause - for all other searches and arrests, and for a grand jury to bind a case over for trial.

Preponderance of the evidence - for a plaintiff to prove a civil claim.

Clear and convincing evidence - for certain very specific issues in a civil context. Term is also used in the NFL for degree of proof needed to overturn an official's call on the field.

Beyond reasonable doubt - to convict someone of a crime.

While the legal system doesn't concern itself with assigning numeric degrees of certainty, one that is clear the middle one. Preponderance means 51/49 or better, more or less. Probable cause is less than that.
 
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MooseNSquirrel said:
No, police are 100% responsible for this death.

Shifting the blame to the judge is silly. Judges didn't come up with no knock warrants.
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plus they have to rely on the sources of the info the warrant is based on, if the info in the request for the warrant isn't accurate it isn't the judges fault, they're relying the information supplied by others. this falls directly on the police.
 
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It was a situation that they created. The settlement reveals it was not a defensible position, and they need to knock this shit off. It may take more police hours to take down suspects in controlled situations, but it seems to me anything that keeps them from tossing lead around like that would be favorable.
 
skyking said:
It was a situation that they created. The settlement reveals it was not a defensible position, and they need to knock this shit off. It may take more police hours to take down suspects in controlled situations, but it seems to me anything that keeps them from tossing lead around like that would be favorable.
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The city isn't paying 12 million dollars because they did nothing wrong. They aren't paying the money for fun.
 
you misunderstand me, of course they did something wrong. They are paying because there is no defending the situation that they created.
 
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