Breitbart Writer On His Experience With "Black Lives Matter"

[umbrella39]

How soon until he is fired from brietbart for talking to black person?

He's rolling in his grave...

 

[werepossum]

Good for him. Honesty and sincerity over partisan loyalties.

Good qualities in a reporter for any news organization.

Well said.

Does it in any way deepen your understanding about what the bulk of the people who constitute Black Lives Matter want and are all about?

I don't think any of us are surprised to find that most people marching for Black Lives Matter are in fact good people, but generally speaking their leaders are not. When good people line up behind bad people, we lend weight to what those bad people aim to accomplish.

 

[glenn1]

Does it in any way deepen your understanding about what the bulk of the people who constitute Black Lives Matter want and are all about?

Just because his fellow protesters were able to meet the minimum expectation of being civil and polite to someone who was working on their side? No, can't say it does. Their focus is still amazingly myopic, they don't have the common decency to even call for members of their own community to do their part first (e.g. obey the law, don't kill each other at rates orders of magnitude higher than police shooting them, etc.) before criticizing the police for sometimes behaving badly, and they don't even have the self-awareness to realize part of the reason they're able to safely protest is because the very police they're protesting are out with them performing crowd control, redirecting traffic, protecting them from violent counter-protesters, etc.

Personally most of them strike me as the same type of simplistic thinking single issue interest groups whose ideas are similar to the ones below.

 

[Perknose]

Just because his fellow protesters were able to meet the minimum expectation of being civil and polite to someone who was working on their side?

He wasn't working on their side.

Did you even read my excerpts, let alone the fucking article?

HE WORKS FOR BREITBART.COM.

I was open with everyone about what I did for a living and that I work for a conservative website, as well as being a Republican.

Your pre-existing bias has poisoned you into blatant stupidity. You have only seen what you wanted to see, even when it was the exact opposite of who he is.

If you were more open, this blatant fact would shock you into some self-examination. I won't hold my breath.

 

[ivwshane]

Well said.


I don't think any of us are surprised to find that most people marching for Black Lives Matter are in fact good people, but generally speaking their leaders are not. When good people line up behind bad people, we lend weight to what those bad people aim to accomplish.

Who are BLM leaders?

 

[Bitek]

Good for him. Honesty and sincerity over partisan loyalties.

Good qualities in a reporter for any news organization.

Not a fan of Breitbart's agenda, but the actual journalism in the article is very refreshing.

It's amazing what earnest listening and self reflection can reveal. Far too little of this these days.

Most political commentary and discussion simply involves attacking strawmen and intellectual cowardice.

 

[agent00f]

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I know a lot of left leaning, urban raised, Vietnam protesting Baby Boomers of my parents generation who through white flight and economic opportunity suddenly became fiscally conservative, NIMBYist corporate and materialistic whores during the Reagan and Clinton administrations.

Right wingers tends to slam into and evolve on social issues. I would consider myself one of them.

Liberals tend to evolve on fiscal issues, economic realities and the inherent injustices of how the real world operates.

Research largely contradict the common notion that people turn more conservative as they age. For the most part people don't change but younger gens are more liberal, therefore society as a whole shifts liberal over time. But this accounts for the appearance of (young, liberal) and (old, conservative) which is wrongly interpreted as young people turning conservative.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Research largely contradict the common notion that people turn more conservative as they age. For the most part people don't change but younger gens are more liberal, therefore society as a whole shifts liberal over time. But this accounts for the appearance of (young, liberal) and (old, conservative) which is wrongly interpreted as young people turning conservative.

My comments were more anecdotal. There is probably more of a correlation of views shifting relative to climbing the economic ladder, which sometimes has an age component.

Blue collar immigrant primarily union families whose children protested the Vietnam war, gained access to college and entered the white collared salary workforce did change perspective on political affiliation from an economic standpoint. Reagan arguably rode that wave into the White House.

 

[FerrelGeek]

How soon until he is fired from brietbart for talking to black person?

Says the guy who said this...

Hopefully they kill a pig in front of its family.

 

[glenn1]

He wasn't working on their side.

Did you even read my excerpts, let alone the fucking article?

HE WORKS FOR BREITBART.COM.



Your pre-existing bias has poisoned you into blatant stupidity. You have only seen what you wanted to see, even when it was the exact opposite of who he is.

If you were more open, this blatant fact would shock you into some self-examination. I won't hold my breath.

He was in the protest with them, git arrested with them. Who he was getting paid by doesn't really matter. And nice job ignoring the entire rest of my post.

 

[Moonbeam]

He was in the protest with them, git arrested with them. Who he was getting paid by doesn't really matter. And nice job ignoring the entire rest of my post.

The first part of your post revealed you didn't know what you were talking about and the rest was garbage. Amazing really.

 

[Perknose]

He was in the protest with them, git arrested with them. Who he was getting paid by doesn't really matter. And nice job ignoring the entire rest of my post.

He wasn't in the protest, he wasn't protesting, he was covering the protest . . . and he was covering it from a vantage point of trying to discredit it!

And the rest of your post was tendentious garbage.

 

[Mursilis]

Does it in any way deepen your understanding about what the bulk of the people who constitute Black Lives Matter want and are all about?

In a similar vein, a recent episode of PBS's Frontline program is worth viewing.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/policing-the-police/

If I were subject to that sort of "stop and frisk" BS and thrown to the ground, I'd be pretty angry too.

 

[Perknose]

In a similar vein, a recent episode of PBS's Frontline program is worth viewing.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/policing-the-police/

If I were subject to that sort of "stop and frisk" BS and thrown to the ground, I'd be pretty angry too.

Great program. Very measured journalism. Everyone here should take the time to watch it in its entirety.

 

[Bitek]

He was in the protest with them, git arrested with them. Who he was getting paid by doesn't really matter. And nice job ignoring the entire rest of my post.

Swing and a miss.

Slow down, read the article, and come back when you are not intent on embarrassing yourself.

 

[Mursilis]

Great program. Very measured journalism. Everyone here should take the time to watch it in its entirety.

That's one of the things that impressed me most about it - the lead reporter was black and would clearly have natural biases based on his prior interactions with police (which he discusses), yet he really seemed to go out of his way to get their viewpoint and allow them the chance to defend themselves. Unfortunately, some of them did not come off well when given that chance. The attempt at balance in the episode was solid.

 

[Perknose]

That's one of the things that impressed me most about it - the lead reporter was black and would clearly have natural biases based on his prior interactions with police (which he discusses), yet he really seemed to go out of his way to get their viewpoint and allow them the chance to defend themselves. Unfortunately, some of them did not come off well when given that chance. The attempt at balance in the episode was solid.

:thumbsup:

I'm thrilled it's available online. I beg every poster here to simply watch it in its entirety.

 

[glenn1]

Swing and a miss.

Slow down, read the article, and come back when you are not intent on embarrassing yourself.

You're missing the point. It's not somehow impressive that BLM can act civilized to others and can be decent people so that a reporter "doesn't feel in danger." That's a subterranean level of basic humanity that any group supporting any cause ought to be able to meet. No one ever presumed BLM was composed of raving savages that were going to rape and pillage the landscape like the Mongol hordes. Just like it wouldn't really matter if the Westboro Baptist Church was filled with super polite people who didn't make others feel in danger either. That doesn't make their myopic focus any more correct or the way they go about expressing that focus any more productive.

When BLM starts talking about the "what WE need to do to reduce police violence" as much as what police need to do then I'll start giving them some credit for being helpful. That means when they see a news story where police used force against someone who was resisting arrest they need to condemn both sides. You shouldn't completely ignore factors which play into and exacerbate the very thing you're protesting against. It would also help if they stopped taking for granted the positive work police do for them (like protecting their very BLM protests and arresting very dangerous murderers and such who kill members of their community).

 

[Perknose]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/policing-the-police/

If I were subject to that sort of "stop and frisk" BS and thrown to the ground, I'd be pretty angry too.

Folks should watch the entire hour for the whole story from all sides, but if not, at least go to 28:47 in and watch this one encounter and its aftermath. No true overriding villains, just a rock and a very hard place.

Also, another snippet to begin to understand the challenges, start at 50:13.

 

[Jhhnn]

You're missing the point. It's not somehow impressive that BLM can act civilized to others and can be decent people so that a reporter "doesn't feel in danger." That's a subterranean level of basic humanity that any group supporting any cause ought to be able to meet. No one ever presumed BLM was composed of raving savages that were going to rape and pillage the landscape like the Mongol hordes. Just like it wouldn't really matter if the Westboro Baptist Church was filled with super polite people who didn't make others feel in danger either. That doesn't make their myopic focus any more correct or the way they go about expressing that focus any more productive.

When BLM starts talking about the "what WE need to do to reduce police violence" as much as what police need to do then I'll start giving them some credit for being helpful. That means when they see a news story where police used force against someone who was resisting arrest they need to condemn both sides. You shouldn't completely ignore factors which play into and exacerbate the very thing you're protesting against. It would also help if they stopped taking for granted the positive work police do for them (like protecting their very BLM protests and arresting very dangerous murderers and such who kill members of their community).

Comparisons between a tiny Fundie-whack cult & a national movement are preposterous.

The rest is another form of victim blaming that ignores the power differential between the police & the man on the street. Did you not notice the not so subtle system of harassment inflicted on the reporter by the Baton Rouge police?

 

[glenn1]

Comparisons between a tiny Fundie-whack cult & a national movement are preposterous.

The rest is another form of victim blaming that ignores the power differential between the police & the man on the street. Did you not notice the not so subtle system of harassment inflicted on the reporter by the Baton Rouge police?

Yeah you're right. Black people aren't as capable as the rest of us and shouldn't be asked to maintain a standard like that.

 

[Moonbeam]

You're missing the point. It's not somehow impressive that BLM can act civilized to others and can be decent people so that a reporter "doesn't feel in danger." That's a subterranean level of basic humanity that any group supporting any cause ought to be able to meet. No one ever presumed BLM was composed of raving savages that were going to rape and pillage the landscape like the Mongol hordes. Just like it wouldn't really matter if the Westboro Baptist Church was filled with super polite people who didn't make others feel in danger either. That doesn't make their myopic focus any more correct or the way they go about expressing that focus any more productive.

When BLM starts talking about the "what WE need to do to reduce police violence" as much as what police need to do then I'll start giving them some credit for being helpful. That means when they see a news story where police used force against someone who was resisting arrest they need to condemn both sides. You shouldn't completely ignore factors which play into and exacerbate the very thing you're protesting against. It would also help if they stopped taking for granted the positive work police do for them (like protecting their very BLM protests and arresting very dangerous murderers and such who kill members of their community).

I don't suppose it occurs to you that you are blaming victims for feeling victimized and expressing the rage that goes with it, expecting perfect behavior from people who have had shit dumped on their heads. You are an idiot, glenn1, sad to say, and have a cold fish where your capacity for empathy should be. You really are a vicious bigoted monster blind to what it is to be viewed by a majority as other. And you hide that bigotry from yourself behind a petty philosophical morality you would never have yourself had it been you who had experienced a life of having real shit dumped on your head.

You are a classic case of what it means to blame the victim and I doubt you will ever see it. So sad.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He wasn't in the protest, he wasn't protesting, he was covering the protest . . . and he was covering it from a vantage point of trying to discredit it!

And the rest of your post was tendentious garbage.

I learned a new word today, thank you, and that was used perfectly, per the definition anyway.

 

[Victorian Gray]

He was in the protest with them, git arrested with them. Who he was getting paid by doesn't really matter. And nice job ignoring the entire rest of my post.

He was a reporter working the story. How do you keep missing this point.

 

[MongGrel]

I learned a new word today, thank you, and that was used perfectly, per the definition anyway.

I was actually going to look that one up myself.



Is my new word of the day.