Breeding "Domestic" Large Cats

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bignateyk

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Cats arent exactly domesticated... they will bite and claw you readily, and not just playful biting like dogs do. The only reason it isn't a big deal is because they are so small. A large cat can be raised almost exactly the sa
 
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FuzzyDunlop

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bignateyk said:
Cats arent exactly domesticated... they will bite and claw you readily, and not just playful biting like dogs do. The only reason it isn't a big deal is because they are so small. A large cat can be raised almost exactly the sa
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owned my cat for three years, it has never drawn blood.
 
Jeff7

Jeff7

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EricMartello said:
I don't know about cats but if I could get a domestic jaguar I'd be ecstatic. :D Yeah and I know, cats aren't really responsive to training like dogs are. They're more like do what they want when they feel like it, but no reason not to try. :)
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Two problems:
- Hairballs the size of baseballs.
- Butt-dragging across a carpet. Good luck getting the thing to stop when he's enjoying his ultra-soft floor-mounted shag toilet paper.
 
lxskllr

lxskllr

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FuzzyDunlop said:
owned my cat for three years, it has never drawn blood.
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My tom's very aggressive. He'll attack without provocation, and when playing he'll definitely draw blood. I haven't figured him out yet. I still don't know if he's playing or serious. I sometimes get the feeling he thinks he's bigger than he is, and he's always making a play for alpha status :^D
 
BoberFett

BoberFett

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bignateyk said:
Cats arent exactly domesticated... they will bite and claw you readily, and not just playful biting like dogs do. The only reason it isn't a big deal is because they are so small. A large cat can be raised almost exactly the sa
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My cat will put her teeth on me if I'm messing with her. If I tug on the little flyaway hairs on her back long enough she'll bite me, but never hard. She could take a chunk out if she wanted, but mostly she's just telling me "Hey dick, knock it off." Then I pet her a little bit and we're best buddies again and she curls up in my lap.
 
z1ggy

z1ggy

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I think a little mini tiger would be sweet. Something that is similar in size to maybe a smaller german shepard, but is friendly.
 
BurnItDwn

BurnItDwn

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DrPizza said:
Cats kill mice. (My kitten even had another mouse in her mouth this morning.) Cats kill chipmunks. Cats kill rats. Some cats kill squirrels. Some cats kill rabbits. Cats kill prey that they're large enough to take down. A 150 pound domesticated cat isn't going to stop at squirrels and rabbits.
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My cat sleeps on the the second computer chair in my office. My cat sleeps on the back of my sofa. My cat sleeps on any one of the kitchen chairs. My cat sleeps on the top of the stairs, my cat sleeps on the bed in my spare bedroom, my cat sleeps on the foot of my bed, my cat sleeps on the floor by the window sill. Some cats sleep on the ground, some cats sleep on meds. Cat's sleep on surfaces that are large enough to support them. A 150 pound domesticated cat isn't going to fit on some of those sofa backs or window sills!
 
FuzzyDunlop

FuzzyDunlop

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Originally Posted by DrPizza
Cats kill mice. (My kitten even had another mouse in her mouth this morning.) Cats kill chipmunks. Cats kill rats. Some cats kill squirrels. Some cats kill rabbits. Cats kill prey that they're large enough to take down. A 150 pound domesticated cat isn't going to stop at squirrels and rabbits.
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Originally posted by BurnItDwn
My cat sleeps on the the second computer chair in my office. My cat sleeps on the back of my sofa. My cat sleeps on any one of the kitchen chairs. My cat sleeps on the top of the stairs, my cat sleeps on the bed in my spare bedroom, my cat sleeps on the foot of my bed,
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ZzZGuy

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BurnItDwn said:
My cat sleeps on the the second computer chair in my office. My cat sleeps on the back of my sofa. My cat sleeps on any one of the kitchen chairs. My cat sleeps on the top of the stairs, my cat sleeps on the bed in my spare bedroom, my cat sleeps on the foot of my bed, my cat sleeps on the floor by the window sill. Some cats sleep on the ground, some cats sleep on meds. Cat's sleep on surfaces that are large enough to support them. A 150 pound domesticated cat isn't going to fit on some of those sofa backs or window sills!
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Well, my parents cat chased my sisters dog out of their house. My sisters cats never leave their computer room for fear of said dog. My parents cat lived outside on it's own for 3 months before we took it in (it was a stray, but was already cut so it was owned by someone). My sisters cats have never been outdoors. My parents found squirrel teeth & fur in the littler box until there were no more squirrels in the backyard. My sisters cats to my knowledge have never taken down a moth unless it was unable to fly.

See were this is going? Cats are not all alike.

Breed a cat big enough and it'll start eating dogs, get one of those with a ill tempter and it'll start eating people. They are not people in fur coats, nor harmless little creatures. It is only their size that prevents them from playing with you like they would a mouse.
 
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Zargon

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ZzZGuy said:
Breed a cat big enough and it'll start eating dogs, get one of those with a ill tempter and it'll start eating people. They are not people in fur coats, nor harmless little creatures. It is only their size that prevents them from playing with you like they would a mouse.
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suuuuuuuuuuure

not that a dog eating cat wouldnt be epic

and i like dogs
 
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SlowSpyder

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For quite a while I had been looking into a bobcat or Canadian Lynx as a pet. I just couldn't find a vet that would look at exotic cats where I live, otherwise I would have had one...

I was part of a now defunct Yahoo mail group of bobcat/Canadian lynx owners... here are a few pictures some owners sent to the group. I believe some of these pictures were actually sent in response to an e-mail that was much like the OP... that they're dangerous and shouldn't be allowed, etc.

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torpid

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DrPizza said:
Cats kill mice. (My kitten even had another mouse in her mouth this morning.) Cats kill chipmunks. Cats kill rats. Some cats kill squirrels. Some cats kill rabbits. Cats kill prey that they're large enough to take down. A 150 pound domesticated cat isn't going to stop at squirrels and rabbits.
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You could likely breed out all of that behavior as well if you really wanted to. Even if you couldn't, you could just be a decent human being and not let a 150 lb domesticated predator wander around outside to ravage children.
 
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marincounty

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I've heard horror stories about those Bengal cats. They are not really domesticated.
Someone went out and when they came back their Bengal cat had gone on a rampage, all of the other cats were dead and their furniture was all destroyed. Be careful.

I've seen a family on TV that had a pet MOUNTAIN LION. It was somewhat tame, although visitors to the house had to remain calm and still for their first visit to the home.
Uhh, no thanks, not interested in being part of the food chain.
 
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SlowSpyder

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marincounty said:
I've heard horror stories about those Bengal cats. They are not really domesticated.
Someone went out and when they came back their Bengal cat had gone on a rampage, all of the other cats were dead and their furniture was all destroyed. Be careful.

I've seen a family on TV that had a pet MOUNTAIN LION. It was somewhat tame, although visitors to the house had to remain calm and still for their first visit to the home.
Uhh, no thanks, not interested in being part of the food chain.
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I had a Bengal cat, I really didn't find it's temperment different than any other domestic cat. I know they are crossed with the Asian snow leopard, but I think they are 3 - 4 generations removed.

Mine slept on my bed or next to me on the couch, meowed at people, and like to rub against the furniture and purr. He was larger than your average cat, I think he was 17lbs. But other than it's 'wilder' look, it was pretty much no different than any other cat.
 
adlep

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I like cats, but cats are not dogs. Introducing a wild element in a domesticated cat is just asking for trouble. I would rather have a pet wolf than a pet puma or bobcat. For whatever reason, canines are easier to "read" for the humans.
 
Oceandevi

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If domestication were the only way to save a species, would it be ok?
I would support it.

Those pics are awesome btw.
 
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