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DWW

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: DWW
As long as they do it in the bathroom I'm all for breast-feeding in public buildings.

Or at least put a blanket around yourself and make it hard to see anything unless you stare hard enough.

If you told my wife to go to the bathroom to breastfeed, I'd probably take you and stick your head in the toilet. :|

haha that is golden
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: DWW
As long as they do it in the bathroom I'm all for breast-feeding in public buildings.

Or at least put a blanket around yourself and make it hard to see anything unless you stare hard enough.

If you told my wife to go to the bathroom to breastfeed, I'd probably take you and stick your head in the toilet. :|

haha that is golden

Yeah, it is, i would piss in the bowl first.
 

DWW

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physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: DWW
physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:

The thing is, you are stupid and ignorant, nothing i can say will ever change that, but i feel sorry for the people who have to be around you, i am honest about this, there is something wrong with you if you cannot see that breastfeeding is nothing more than a woman feeding her baby.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: DWW
physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:

Physical attacks? Did some P&N members come by your house and punch you? B@stards! Sue 'em (and make sure they wear long-sleeves in court, arms are disgusting!) :D
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: DWW
As long as they do it in the bathroom I'm all for breast-feeding in public buildings.

Or at least put a blanket around yourself and make it hard to see anything unless you stare hard enough.

If you told my wife to go to the bathroom to breastfeed, I'd probably take you and stick your head in the toilet. :|

:beer:

Exactly. When you have a child and that child is crying for food, maybe you will all understand.
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:

The thing is, you are stupid and ignorant, nothing i can say will ever change that, but i feel sorry for the people who have to be around you, i am honest about this, there is something wrong with you if you cannot see that breastfeeding is nothing more than a woman feeding her baby.

Again, if you read my posts you would come to the conslusion that I see breastfeeding as a natural thing and I am all for it 100%. In addition I support public sex, urination, masturbation, nudity and other things which are completely natural to human beings but have been wrongly demonized. As long as everything is fair and balanced and there is no discrimination towards those of us who choose a different lifestyle (to not have children). Why do you hate me for that? Hate is wrong!
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:

The thing is, you are stupid and ignorant, nothing i can say will ever change that, but i feel sorry for the people who have to be around you, i am honest about this, there is something wrong with you if you cannot see that breastfeeding is nothing more than a woman feeding her baby.

Again, if you read my posts you would come to the conslusion that I see breastfeeding as a natural thing and I am all for it 100%. In addition I support public sex, urination, masturbation, nudity and other things which are completely natural to human beings but have been wrongly demonized. As long as everything is fair and balanced and there is no discrimination towards those of us who choose a different lifestyle (to not have children). Why do you hate me for that? Hate is wrong!

Wow...just wow.

On a rational note, does anyone have a list of the states where there are pro-breastfeeding laws?

<---- wife due in Feb
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:

The thing is, you are stupid and ignorant, nothing i can say will ever change that, but i feel sorry for the people who have to be around you, i am honest about this, there is something wrong with you if you cannot see that breastfeeding is nothing more than a woman feeding her baby.

Again, if you read my posts you would come to the conslusion that I see breastfeeding as a natural thing and I am all for it 100%. In addition I support public sex, urination, masturbation, nudity and other things which are completely natural to human beings but have been wrongly demonized. As long as everything is fair and balanced and there is no discrimination towards those of us who choose a different lifestyle (to not have children). Why do you hate me for that? Hate is wrong!

If you were to STARE at a breastfeeding woman, all you would see is the skin of her breast, i have NO idea how any of the comparisons you made has any correlation to that.

And read my previous post again, you did not respond to it, urinating in public, sex in public, masturbation in public relates to feeding your baby in WHAT FVCKING WAY?

I don't hate you, i just think you are a stupid little punk with a twisted mind.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:

The thing is, you are stupid and ignorant, nothing i can say will ever change that, but i feel sorry for the people who have to be around you, i am honest about this, there is something wrong with you if you cannot see that breastfeeding is nothing more than a woman feeding her baby.

Again, if you read my posts you would come to the conslusion that I see breastfeeding as a natural thing and I am all for it 100%. In addition I support public sex, urination, masturbation, nudity and other things which are completely natural to human beings but have been wrongly demonized. As long as everything is fair and balanced and there is no discrimination towards those of us who choose a different lifestyle (to not have children). Why do you hate me for that? Hate is wrong!

Wow...just wow.

On a rational note, does anyone have a list of the states where there are pro-breastfeeding laws?

<---- wife due in Feb

There are laws anywhere which prohibits it?
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:

The thing is, you are stupid and ignorant, nothing i can say will ever change that, but i feel sorry for the people who have to be around you, i am honest about this, there is something wrong with you if you cannot see that breastfeeding is nothing more than a woman feeding her baby.

Again, if you read my posts you would come to the conslusion that I see breastfeeding as a natural thing and I am all for it 100%. In addition I support public sex, urination, masturbation, nudity and other things which are completely natural to human beings but have been wrongly demonized. As long as everything is fair and balanced and there is no discrimination towards those of us who choose a different lifestyle (to not have children). Why do you hate me for that? Hate is wrong!

If you were to STARE at a breastfeeding woman, all you would see is the skin of her breast, i have NO idea how any of the comparisons you made has any correlation to that.

And read my previous post again, you did not respond to it, urinating in public, sex in public, masturbation in public relates to feeding your baby in WHAT FVCKING WAY?

It relates in that both are of at LEAST equal level to natural human events. You claim, like I do, that breast feeding is natural. My argument is that (when being non-descriminatory) you are either for or against all of them. I don't see how anyone can differentiate one activity from the other and say it is more acceptable because that would be DESCRIMINATION against us in the minority which is WRONG.

Baring a breast, whether it is for feeding a newborn/baby/toddler/child should not be discriminated from simply going topless for comfort. Different but equal is still not equal.

I don't hate you, i just think you are a stupid little punk with a twisted mind.

Again with the insults "punk"? :roll:
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
As long as they do it in the bathroom I'm all for breast-feeding in public buildings.

Or at least put a blanket around yourself and make it hard to see anything unless you stare hard enough.

Yes, showing skin in public is horrible, on with the veil you slutty mother.

Did I say that? Don't put words into my mouth.

I never once said skin is horrible but if non-breastfeeding women can't walk around with tits in the air then why should those breasfeeding? It is discrimination against one party. Make it fair and balanced or none at all.

No, you just asked her to "cover up" which is pretty much what the talibans asked their women to do.

Explain what the big problem with showing the skin of a mothers brest while feeding her baby is.

I have a hard time grasping that anyone, ANYONE would have a problem with a woman brestfeeding in public, such a person must be truly wacked in the head.


Okay, "the talibans" (haha) forced women to cover their whole body. You cannot rationally compare both. If you try to compare both you must be "wacked in the head."

The only problem is that it is wrong to deny women without newborns the same right to hang out their set in public. What if my girlfriend and I would love if we could enjoy a nice breast-fondeling at the local movie house, you know, for a mid-movie snack?

Why should we be denied the right? This is the 21st century and I'm tired of being discriminated against.

Again, I never had a problem with a woman breastfeeding, just that it is a discriminatory system that favours those who have children and not those of us who are "different".

Let me ask you this: is masturbation normal? Yes it is. Well what if you have the unending urge to whip it out and satisfy yourself at a family center. Why shouldn't it be considered okay? Hell you could get your family to help you out even and it can be good, happy fun times &amp; bonding for all. Why is that so different?

Really...sex, masturbation and physical urges are natural even to a further extent than breastfeeding. Why is it so demonized?

Actually, you are a perfect example of why there is so much misunderstanding surround this. You've sexualized the breast with your comparisons. Breast != sex. Perhaps if you wish to use a valid analogy you should discuss topless female laws like New York has.

WHERE DID I SEXUALIZE IT? WHERE?

I said mid-movie snack, meaning I'd like to wet my tongue with some milk. Did I ever say it was for sexual reasons? NO.

Though I discussed sex later it was in COMPARISON TO NATURAL HUMAN PHENOMENON.

Why are people constantly putting spin on what I say in this thread?

Where did you sexualize it?

What if my girlfriend and I would love if we could enjoy a nice breast-fondeling at the local movie house, you know, for a mid-movie snack?
Since you are able to type, I'm assuming your main source of nourishment is not breast milk, I can only infer you are referring to something sexual. Your follow up comment about masturbation only confirms this.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
You only want to cover up "some" parts so i guess you are not really as bad (ie, you are just semi-taliban, but hang in there, some day you might grow up to be a full fledged taliban), but the rest of your post is just so stupid that i have a hard time coming up with a response that i wouldn't get banned for.

I understand that you haven't seen a pair of breasts before and therefore feel very offended when you do, no, actually, i still don't get it.

Again, personal attacks and word-spin by The Other Side. Is that all they are capable of?

Thanks Klixxer.

I don't know what "the other side" is but i am sure there is a meaning hidden in there somewhere.

(just waiting for this punk to call alchie a liberal)

That's something I don't get accused of much :D I'm not familiar with DWW's posts so I can't quite categorize him, maybe he's just arguing for the sake of argument. If he is, he isn't very good at it...

Crimson: Urination is not allowed in public because it makes a mess. We have facillities to collect that mess. Prior to urinals, people did urinate in public. Bad analogy.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
physical attacks, name calling, childish retort... when does it stop?

You know, something might be wrong with you when you take a forum discussion THIS seriously. :roll:

The thing is, you are stupid and ignorant, nothing i can say will ever change that, but i feel sorry for the people who have to be around you, i am honest about this, there is something wrong with you if you cannot see that breastfeeding is nothing more than a woman feeding her baby.

Again, if you read my posts you would come to the conslusion that I see breastfeeding as a natural thing and I am all for it 100%. In addition I support public sex, urination, masturbation, nudity and other things which are completely natural to human beings but have been wrongly demonized. As long as everything is fair and balanced and there is no discrimination towards those of us who choose a different lifestyle (to not have children). Why do you hate me for that? Hate is wrong!

If you were to STARE at a breastfeeding woman, all you would see is the skin of her breast, i have NO idea how any of the comparisons you made has any correlation to that.

And read my previous post again, you did not respond to it, urinating in public, sex in public, masturbation in public relates to feeding your baby in WHAT FVCKING WAY?

It relates in that both are of at LEAST equal level to natural human events. You claim, like I do, that breast feeding is natural. My argument is that (when being non-descriminatory) you are either for or against all of them. I don't see how anyone can differentiate one activity from the other and say it is more acceptable because that would be DESCRIMINATION against us in the minority which is WRONG.

Baring a breast, whether it is for feeding a newborn/baby/toddler/child should not be discriminated from simply going topless for comfort. Different but equal is still not equal.

I don't hate you, i just think you are a stupid little punk with a twisted mind.

Again with the insults "punk"? :roll:

First of all, just so you understand this, there is a difference between feeding a newborn and baring your breast for no reason, if you don't get that i pity you (and comparing feeding your newborn to masturbating in public is just stupid). Secondly, i don't mind if anyone bares her breasts, they are, after all only breasts, i have seen plenty and i doubt that anyone will actually be shocked by the sight of them. OTOH i don't get anything that the puritans subscribe to so that might be it.

Yeah take THAT to the courts "descrimination (sic)" LMAO!

So the ones without a baby don't get to feed their nonexistent baby in public? Ehhhm, ok.

What do you want to be called, idiot, punk or just plain ignorant? I found no other words to fit your description, you choose, punk.
 

Todd33

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I still urinate and masterbate in public, is that wrong? :)

I can eat in public, so can my kid. Simple as that. If someone from China has a problem with my fork, is that my problem?
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DWW
You only want to cover up "some" parts so i guess you are not really as bad (ie, you are just semi-taliban, but hang in there, some day you might grow up to be a full fledged taliban), but the rest of your post is just so stupid that i have a hard time coming up with a response that i wouldn't get banned for.

I understand that you haven't seen a pair of breasts before and therefore feel very offended when you do, no, actually, i still don't get it.

Again, personal attacks and word-spin by The Other Side. Is that all they are capable of?

Thanks Klixxer.

I don't know what "the other side" is but i am sure there is a meaning hidden in there somewhere.

(just waiting for this punk to call alchie a liberal)

That's something I don't get accused of much :D I'm not familiar with DWW's posts so I can't quite categorize him, maybe he's just arguing for the sake of argument. If he is, he isn't very good at it...

Crimson: Urination is not allowed in public because it makes a mess. We have facillities to collect that mess. Prior to urinals, people did urinate in public. Bad analogy.

I'd say he is a follower of the Bush agenda, ban everything that is even remotely considered a turn on, that is, female skin.

The religious right is winning this battle and you are turning your head.
 

DWW

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Where did you sexualize it?

What if my girlfriend and I would love if we could enjoy a nice breast-fondeling at the local movie house, you know, for a mid-movie snack?
Since you are able to type, I'm assuming your main source of nourishment is not breast milk, I can only infer you are referring to something sexual. Your follow up comment about masturbation only confirms this.

HELLO. Please don't edit my posts in a Moore-ish way. I said, in full context "What if my girlfriend and I would love if we could enjoy a nice breast-fondeling at the local movie house, you know, for a mid-movie snack?"

SNACK BEING THE KEYWORD. So all of a sudden I can't enjoy breast milk too? You do realize that women can and do lactate without being pregnant I hope.

As for my follow up comment that was analagous to the freedoms which I am lobbying for (in an all or nothing manner). It wasn't a comparison outside of being similar to breast feeding in that both are natural human phenomenon.

I didn't say "breastfeeding is a sexual act" nor implicitly infer it.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Todd33
I still urinate and masterbate in public, is that wrong? :)

I can eat in public, so can my kid. Simple as that. If someone from China has a problem with my fork, is that my problem?


All at the same time? You only have 2 hands...
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: DWW
Where did you sexualize it?

What if my girlfriend and I would love if we could enjoy a nice breast-fondeling at the local movie house, you know, for a mid-movie snack?
Since you are able to type, I'm assuming your main source of nourishment is not breast milk, I can only infer you are referring to something sexual. Your follow up comment about masturbation only confirms this.

HELLO. Please don't edit my posts in a Moore-ish way. I said, in full context "What if my girlfriend and I would love if we could enjoy a nice breast-fondeling at the local movie house, you know, for a mid-movie snack?"

SNACK BEING THE KEYWORD. So all of a sudden I can't enjoy breast milk too? You do realize that women can and do lactate without being pregnant I hope.

As for my follow up comment that was analagous to the freedoms which I am lobbying for (in an all or nothing manner). It wasn't a comparison outside of being similar to breast feeding in that both are natural human phenomenon.

I didn't say "breastfeeding is a sexual act" nor implicitly infer it.

:confused:

Man, you need to stop whatever drug you are doing, it is rotting your brain.
 

DWW

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First of all, just so you understand this, there is a difference between feeding a newborn and baring your breast for no reason, if you don't get that i pity you (and comparing feeding your newborn to masturbating in public is just stupid). Secondly, i don't mind if anyone bares her breasts, they are, after all only breasts, i have seen plenty and i doubt that anyone will actually be shocked by the sight of them. OTOH i don't get anything that the puritans subscribe to so that might be it.

Yeah take THAT to the courts "descrimination (sic)" LMAO!

So the ones without a baby don't get to feed their nonexistent baby in public? Ehhhm, ok.

What do you want to be called, idiot, punk or just plain ignorant? I found no other words to fit your description, you choose, punk.

HELLO? I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES IN AND OF THEMSELVES. I WILL NOT AND HAVE NOT DENIED THAT. I just don't think that part of human nature should be allowed while other is demonized.

I love seeing breasts, in fact I love seeing whole bodies naked and walking down the main streets of cities. So, I don't know why you are (perhaps? otherwise why would you mention it) suggesting I'm a puritan?

In fact I think YOU are possibly a puritan, bush voter and neo-con. Why else would you want to restrict my rights so much?
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Crimson
I don't have a huge problem with it, but cover yourself up. I dont however buy the 'its natural' argument.. Urination is natural, yet we don't allow it in public places.. you do it in private with members of the same sex.

With urination there is a smell issue and a health issue. I grew up in the Philippines and it was not uncommon for people to urinate in public.

I label myself a conservative but see nothing wrong with public breastfeeding. I think it would be wise for the breastfeeding mother to try to be discrete as possible just because you have too many people running around who are offened by it. Each side can give a little. Breast feeding is a natural thing. So is a baby's hunger. A mother has to feed her child and if there is no discrete way to do it then people will just have to stop staring.
 

Isla

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I just wanted to pop in and say Yay for breastfeeding. It boggles my mind that anyone would have a problem with it.

<---breastfed and comes from a long, long line of nursing moms
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: DWW
First of all, just so you understand this, there is a difference between feeding a newborn and baring your breast for no reason, if you don't get that i pity you (and comparing feeding your newborn to masturbating in public is just stupid). Secondly, i don't mind if anyone bares her breasts, they are, after all only breasts, i have seen plenty and i doubt that anyone will actually be shocked by the sight of them. OTOH i don't get anything that the puritans subscribe to so that might be it.

Yeah take THAT to the courts "descrimination (sic)" LMAO!

So the ones without a baby don't get to feed their nonexistent baby in public? Ehhhm, ok.

What do you want to be called, idiot, punk or just plain ignorant? I found no other words to fit your description, you choose, punk.

HELLO? I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES IN AND OF THEMSELVES. I WILL NOT AND HAVE NOT DENIED THAT. I just don't think that part of human nature should be allowed while other is demonized.

I love seeing breasts, in fact I love seeing whole bodies naked and walking down the main streets of cities. So, I don't know why you are (perhaps? otherwise why would you mention it) suggesting I'm a puritan?

In fact I think YOU are possibly a puritan, bush voter and neo-con. Why else would you want to restrict my rights so much?

I feel kinda funny answering a pre-teen regarding things that my ex-wife did before they were born, so can it you puritan little horny idiot, you see, this isn't about you getting a hard on everytime you see female breast skin, this is about a baby being fed.

It is like comparing rotting of dead corpses in the malls and walking, both natural occurances but it has nothing to do with one another, you just keep talking and with every post you sound more stupid.

It would be kinda hard for me to vote for Bush, considering that i am German.

Please keep on posting, it is funny if nothing else.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Isla
I just wanted to pop in and say Yay for breastfeeding. It boggles my mind that anyone would have a problem with it.

<---breastfed and comes from a long, long line of nursing moms

It's the best of the best of meals for a baby, restrictions my ass.
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Isla
I just wanted to pop in and say Yay for breastfeeding. It boggles my mind that anyone would have a problem with it.

<---breastfed and comes from a long, long line of nursing moms

It's the best of the best of meals for a baby, restrictions my ass.


Of course it is!

Somewhere along the line, the idea that breast feeding was for poor people took hold, and formula became popular. Never mind the fact that breast feeding is the best thing you can do for your children's health and intelligence... the modern thing to do was buy something that was marketed as 'superior'! Hah! Fortunately for me, my own mother never bought into that, and she nursed all of us, even when breastfeeding was very out of vogue. Her mother breast fed her, and her mother before her breastfed... and as my mom puts it, WE ARE MAMMALS, DARN IT! :laugh:

Then of course, the sexualization of the breast was able to overshadow the TRUE reason women have breasts. Breasts are for feeding babies. If men like them, well that's not moms and babies fault, and something as healthy and right as breastfeeding should never be equated with a man's disturbed reaction to what he sees.

I have friends who didn't breast feed because they just couldn't deal with it. They felt like breasts were for their husbands and were afraid that they would get 'ruined'. And yet I'm the one who still has firm orbs after nursing 3... go figure. Maybe it's because it is just as good for mom as it is for baby... women who breast feed reduce their risk of breast cancer.

<---was probably a wet nurse in a past life ;)